JT Miller Hit on Kevin Rooney

[Grinner]

Nice big clean hit
Won his fight afterwards

 

[Paper]

Clean hit, shame on the morons chanting Miller's name while the guy was laying on the ice without much motion

Must have been people from Surrey who were there just waiting for this hit.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Rooney should have braced for the hit instead of reaching for the puck and making himself vulnerable.

 

[S E P H]

Rooney never has the puck

It was a loose puck and each one was going after it, Rooney was off-balanced which caused most of the problems. However, JT falling on top of him made it worse. Kevin was in awful shape, so I wish him the best.

 

[PAZ]

Weird interaction that has an unfortunate result.

Miller was looking at breaking up the play and was already lining up Rooney, expecting him to have control. Rooney touches it and Millers reflexively retrieves it, but he's also in a direct path with Rooney and expects contact.

Miller braces himself/throws a reverse hit/whatever you want to call it and since Rooney didn't really have full control, he wasn't expecting to get nailed either. I have a hard time faulting Miller since you usually expect physical contact in those situations. Just an unfortunate result.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Reminds me of the play when Steve Moore hit Marcus Naslund which led to the Bertuzzi incident

 

[Brookbank]

Clean hit, shame on the morons chanting Miller's name while the guy was laying on the ice without much motion

Half the building couldn't see the player down on the ice. They had no idea he was there

 

[Brookbank]

At live speed you can count it out.

Rooney touches it at the start of the video, the hit is as it becomes 2 seconds:

Literally in this clip, you cannot see the downed player on the ice. The fans who cheered thought the player got up already and didn't know he was there

 

[Xirik]

No talk on the fact that Miller pushed a ref down onto the ice?

 

[Coffees]

No talk on the fact that Miller pushed a ref down onto the ice?

That’s just Miller

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Gorgeous hit. This league sucks.

Why does the league suck tho? No penalty on the play

 

[Xirik]

That’s just Miller

touching a referee is still a no no.

 

[Coffees]

touching a referee is still a no no.

Why is no one talking about it?

 

[Xirik]

Why is no one talking about it?

defensive much?

 

[Canadienna]

Yes, meaning that the delay is somewhere between 1 and 2 seconds (it could in theory be 1.99 seconds given what you have described). I am referring to the embedded video time. Contact is very close to it ticking to 2 seconds. I'd say the actual delay is something like 1.8 seconds.

On the game clock something like 12:26.9 to 12:25.1 makes sense with this.

You said it was 2 seconds because you "counted it out".

It's impossible to be two seconds.

Then you claimed it's between 1 and 2 seconds, but it could also be less than 1 second.

To me, it appears around one second.

One second between a puck touch and a hit is not uncommon. Say whatever else about the hit, but going after it for being late is silly.

 

[Coffees]

You said it was 2 seconds because you "counted it out".

It's impossible to be two seconds.

Then you claimed it's between 1 and 2 seconds, but it could also be less than 1 second.

To me, it appears around one second.

One second between a puck touch and a hit is not uncommon. Say whatever else about the hit, but going after it for being late is silly.

wait are you twisting his words ?

 

[Anglesmith]

You said it was 2 seconds because you "counted it out".

It's impossible to be two seconds.

Then you claimed it's between 1 and 2 seconds, but it could also be less than 1 second.

To me, it appears around one second.

One second between a puck touch and a hit is not uncommon. Say whatever else about the hit, but going after it for being late is silly.

No, I said you can count it out at live speed in response to a poster saying that the only reason it looked late was because they thought the only video available was slow-motion.

Perhaps rounding up from 1.8 to 2 seconds is slightly misleading, but pretending that that 1.8 seconds is actually 1 second and then suggesting that because it's 1 second it's not late is far moreso.

Saying that a hit delivered almost two full seconds after a guy has lost the puck is late, let alone when another player has possession between losing the puck and the hit, is the furthest thing from being silly. The attempts to downplay what is obvious on video are silly.

 

[Oddbob]

Clean as it gets.

3-4 game suspension, in my opinion. Canucks fans in the arena are complete scum.

A complete clean hit. Nothing dirty at all.

 

[jackjohnson]

Reminds me of the play when Steve Moore hit Marcus Naslund which led to the Bertuzzi incident

Not even close

 

[Kiekura]

Clean hit.

 

[Black Tank]

Clean mostly harmless hit with a tough fall for Rooney. What a game though and hope Rooney is OK.

 

[Lunatik]

Sorry @Anglesmith I'm with the others, I don't feel it was late at all, just a really shitty result.

I hope Rooney's head injury isn't as bad as it looked. Hee lost half of last season due to a shoulder injury in the preseason, would be unfortunate for him if he missed a ton of time this year too.

 

[SaintMorose]

It looked like Miller knew it was late and mitigated a lot of the contact to be more hip to hip than shoulder to upper body. I think there's a 2 minute interference penalty there, especially if you were calling things as tight as the rest of the period; but I wouldn't be looking at fines or suspension at all.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Miller plays the puck and is about to be engaged one way or another by Rooney. Whether that’s via hit or stick check is impossible to know in the moment. You can easily make the argument that Miller is simply trying to outmuscle the guy he expects to get hit by. It’s not as if he goes out of his way. He’s played the puck and he is being engaged by an opposing player.

I don’t really see this as falling within the spirit of the rule of “interference”. Rooney should ultimately be prepared for contact in that situation and he surprisingly was not.

And yes, the chanting is “unclassy” but that’s an unrelated matter.

- a Bruins fan who would be happy to never see the Canucks win another game

 

[Jee]

At live speed you can count it out.

Rooney touches it at the start of the video, the hit is as it becomes 2 seconds:



The argument for Miller is he throws it near Rooney and then acts as if Rooney has the puck, but Rooney doesn't really move to possess the puck before being blasted.

Ultimately the interference penalty is to protect players from being hit when they (reasonably) aren't expecting to be hit, and this is exactly that. I guess the question is whether this should be a valid strategy as a puck carrier when a defender is skating towards you.

At live speed it's even more obvious it wasn't a late hit, what exactly are you watching ?