Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)/Maine Mariners (ECHL) Thread: Part XI

[gravey9]

I just watched the last HWP game.

It's really clear, Chytil is the best player on the ice right now. He just makes things happen every time he's out there. The only reason to keep him down there is to have him get more and more comfortable at C. Get better at draws. That sorta thing. But his combo of size, speed and stickhandling make him hard to handle at this level. As a result -- how much he can grow his game down here is somewhat limited. He can rely more than others on his raw abilities.

As for Kravtsov, he is more and more engaged on the defensive side. He's having to simplify his game a bit. He seems in a better place than when he was first sent down. He did have a pretty bad turnover early in the game. But he immediately knew it was stupid. He's a smart kid.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Maybe not long term. He'll get passed eventually. But he's really steady, and I think his added physicality would be nice. If we needed someone to step in on the left I think he'd do really well.

I don’t mean it as a dig at Lindgren, I think he’d do fine. I just mean I don’t think his presence is going to solve the team wide problem

 

[Kovalev27]

Was looking for the Shesterkin player thread couldn’t find it but ummmm this kids. AHL numbers are starting to look a lot like his KHL numbers with a way worse lineup in front of him. He’s 3-0 with a 1.34 Gaa and a Sav% Of .952 with a shutout.

small sample size but I mean this is no joke and the footsteps are going to get louder behind 30 and 40 if this continues.

 

[kovazub94]

Was looking for the Shesterkin player thread couldn’t find it but ummmm this kids. AHL numbers are starting to look a lot like his KHL numbers with a way worse lineup in front of him. He’s 3-0 with a 1.34 Gaa and a Sav% Of .952 with a shutout.

small sample size but I mean this is no joke and the footsteps are going to get louder behind 30 and 40 if this continues.

How are Huska's numbers?

 

[Kovalev27]

How are Huska's numbers?

not bad but certainly not great either. Huska is 2-0-1 with a 2.57 gaa and a .910 sav %

 

[cwede]

How are Huska's numbers?

	GP	Min	GA	SO	GAA	W	L	OT	SVS	SA	SAV%
Igor Shesterkin	3	179:43:00	4	1	1.34	3	0	0	79	83	0.952
Adam Huska	3	187:04:00	8	0	2.57	2	0	1	81	89	0.91
Empty Net	3	0:19	0		0					0
Totals	6	367:06:00	12	1	1.96	5	0	0	160	172	0.93

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

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[nyr2k2]

Was looking for the Shesterkin player thread couldn’t find it but ummmm this kids. AHL numbers are starting to look a lot like his KHL numbers with a way worse lineup in front of him. He’s 3-0 with a 1.34 Gaa and a Sav% Of .952 with a shutout.

small sample size but I mean this is no joke and the footsteps are going to get louder behind 30 and 40 if this continues.

I mean, let's not go crazy. He had a great game the other night--36 save SO--but prior to that his SV% was .915, not really any different than the "not great" numbers Huska has put up. It's three games, can't really draw any conclusions other than he's apparently adjusting. The reality however is he could easily go out and have a bad game where he goes out and allows 5 goals on 25 shots or whatever, and his numbers look less spectacular.

It's very encouraging that he's adjusting. Can't really say much beyond that; not from three games.

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

By trading Georgiev who they can't/won't protect.

Georgiev only goalie on the Rangers that would be needed to be protected for expansion draft.

Shestyorkin exempt, Hank UFA, Huska RFA.

 

[cwede]

Georgiev only goalie on the Rangers that would be needed to be protected for expansion draft.
Shestyorkin exempt, Hank UFA, Huska RFA.

actually,my understanding has been that RFAs are eligible to be taken in Expansion draft, if not protected
please correct me if wrong (with citations if available)

as far as i can tell, there is NO difference between Shesty and Huska regarding these concerns
per CF, both Huska and Shesty are on 2 year ELCs,
(i hadn't realized, but makes sense Shesty is 1-1/2 years older)
New York Rangers - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

also found this, (and i believe next Exp Draft will use virtually identical rules)
Expansion Draft FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
First & Second Year Pros
All players who have accrued two or less professional seasons at the end of the 2016-17 season, as well as all unsigned draft choices appearing on the teams reserve list, will be exempt from the upcoming expansion draft.

 

[EpicDing]

	GP	Min	GA	SO	GAA	W	L	OT	SVS	SA	SAV%
Igor Shesterkin	3	179:43:00	4	1	1.34	3	0	0	79	83	0.952
Adam Huska	3	187:04:00	8	0	2.57	2	0	1	81	89	0.91
Empty Net	3	0:19	0		0					0
Totals	6	367:06:00	12	1	1.96	5	0	0	160	172	0.93

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

Damn, we should call up Empty Net. Team plays well in front of him, no shots against.

 

[Tawnos]

actually,my understanding has been that RFAs are eligible to be taken in Expansion draft, if not protected
please correct me if wrong (with citations if available)

as far as i can tell, there is NO difference between Shesty and Huska regarding these concerns
per CF, both Huska and Shesty are on 2 year ELCs,
(i hadn't realized, but makes sense Shesty is 1-1/2 years older)
New York Rangers - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

also found this, (and i believe next Exp Draft will use virtually identical rules)
Expansion Draft FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
First & Second Year Pros
All players who have accrued two or less professional seasons at the end of the 2016-17 season, as well as all unsigned draft choices appearing on the teams reserve list, will be exempt from the upcoming expansion draft.

Every player who isn't a 1st or 2nd year pro is eligible to be taken in the expansion draft, including pending UFAs and RFAs. It's just that, in the case of pending UFAs, why would an expansion team take one? Contract status in the sense of pending free agency has nothing to do with expansion eligibility. The only exempt players are 1st and 2nd year pro. Shesterkin will be exempt because he'll be a 2nd year pro. Huska same.

What is different for goalies is that RFAs can be used to meet the exposure requirement, but since those 2 guys are exempt, they don't apply to that either. The Rangers are going to have to bring in another pro goalie to meet the exposure requirement if they want to hang on to Georgiev (assuming he's still here). There's no games played minimum for goalies though, so they can literally have any non-exempt goalie under contract for 21-22 and meet the requirement.

 

[Kovalev27]

I mean, let's not go crazy. He had a great game the other night--36 save SO--but prior to that his SV% was .915, not really any different than the "not great" numbers Huska has put up. It's three games, can't really draw any conclusions other than he's apparently adjusting. The reality however is he could easily go out and have a bad game where he goes out and allows 5 goals on 25 shots or whatever, and his numbers look less spectacular.

It's very encouraging that he's adjusting. Can't really say much beyond that; not from three games.

Am I going crazy? Lol

his numbers look like his KHL numbers. Like I very clearly said small sample but his entire body of work is looking ridiculous at this point. He could just as easily have a great game and look even better.

if anything the outlier would be a bad game

 

[nyr2k2]

Am I going crazy? Lol

his numbers look like his KHL numbers. Like I very clearly said small sample but his entire body of work is looking ridiculous at this point. He could just as easily have a great game and look even better.

if anything the outlier would be a bad game

I'm just saying--after two games (two games!) his SV% was .915. His performance in those two games wouldn't really warrant a comment.

Then after three games (three games!) it's, "Whoa, his numbers are amazing! He'll be knocking on the door soon!"

Things don't change that quickly from one game to the next. He did fine his first couple games and then had a really good game. That's great, he's making the adjustment to North America. I just don't know why we need to try to build any excitement beyond that. I feel like the last couple years should have taught people not to start the hype train before a guy performs in the NHL.

But, if people want to get all excited about it, I guess that's fine and their prerogative.

 

[Ori]

If they send down, Kakko - they need to recall a winger like Kravtsov.
Chytil should be playing NHL as well.

 

[lucky13]

	GP	Min	GA	SO	GAA	W	L	OT	SVS	SA	SAV%
Igor Shesterkin	3	179:43:00	4	1	1.34	3	0	0	79	83	0.952
Adam Huska	3	187:04:00	8	0	2.57	2	0	1	81	89	0.91
Empty Net	3	0:19	0		0					0
Totals	6	367:06:00	12	1	1.96	5	0	0	160	172	0.93

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Clearly empty net is our goalie of the future... putting up zeros across the board

 

[Joey Bones]

not bad but certainly not great either. Huska is 2-0-1 with a 2.57 gaa and a .910 sav %

I think I'd like that save percentage to go up into the .920's, but those numbers are still really good. Most NHL goalies maintain a that on a daily basis. Think both he and Shesty have been very good to start. Goes to show that NYR's goalie depth is a great strength.

Disclaimer: Small Sample Size

 

[Joey Bones]

Georgiev only goalie on the Rangers that would be needed to be protected for expansion draft.

Shestyorkin exempt, Hank UFA, Huska RFA.

Wouldn't Huska also be exempt?

Great news for NYR, TBH. Even if Hank wants to play another season or two, he can still be retained by not letting any of the potential go away. Not sure if Gorton meant to do this, but if he did.... then he's....

 

[Joey Bones]

If they send down, Kakko - they need to recall a winger like Kravtsov.
Chytil should be playing NHL as well.

Kakko is not getting sent down....

 

[Ori]

Kakko is not getting sent down....

I would not risk my Tesla Y on it on that kind of bet!
Fact is he had -2 struggle with Kreider -1 last game, and what is the hurry to develop this kid?
NHL drafting is overrated concerning talent level compare to top soccer talent in end of 2019.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Was looking for the Shesterkin player thread couldn’t find it but ummmm this kids. AHL numbers are starting to look a lot like his KHL numbers with a way worse lineup in front of him. He’s 3-0 with a 1.34 Gaa and a Sav% Of .952 with a shutout.

small sample size but I mean this is no joke and the footsteps are going to get louder behind 30 and 40 if this continues.

It’s funny, of all our young guys this year I was expecting him to struggle the most out of the gate, by far. I was also the most worried about him going back home.

It’s very, very encouraging to see him playing so well.

 

[egelband]

Damn, we should call up Empty Net. Team plays well in front of him, no shots against.

His name is actually Empty Neth.

 

[frisland]

Gropp ever show up in Maine??

 

[Edge]

Was looking for the Shesterkin player thread couldn’t find it but ummmm this kids. AHL numbers are starting to look a lot like his KHL numbers with a way worse lineup in front of him. He’s 3-0 with a 1.34 Gaa and a Sav% Of .952 with a shutout.

small sample size but I mean this is no joke and the footsteps are going to get louder behind 30 and 40 if this continues.

It's funny you should say that. I was just catching up on Hartford games and was thinking to myself that while everyone is concentrated on our skaters right now, Shesterkin has quietly had a hell of a start to his North American career.

 

[nyr2k2]

Gropp ever show up in Maine??

No. I don't think he will. I'm honestly surprised we haven't moved him yet, or agreed on a contract termination. Can't imagine he's worth anything.

 

[RangersFan1994]

No. I don't think he will. I'm honestly surprised we haven't moved him yet, or agreed on a contract termination. Can't imagine he's worth anything.

trade him to the Islanders to play with Barzal