Kings News: [Hammond] LA Kings Have Hired Darryl Sutter As New Head Coach

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...The fact of the matter is, the team wasn't really playing poorly and they were in most every game. A couple goals scored here or there and we wouldn't be in this situation, just like Scuderi said. ....

They may have been in every game. They weren't dictating in every game. That's what is missing. As a team, as individuals and as five man units, they rarely stepped to that level. Win or lose, elite teams dictate the play on ice. An elite level team may lose or it might be pushed around for minutes or periods at a time - but not for whole games or streaks. They always find a way to rock an opponent back on it's heels. It's like the Kings push up to that level and then fall back.

Then they get all squirrelly and have to start from scratch.
 
Another thing to keep in mind, aren't most coaches "relieved of their duties"? Kept under contract until the terms of a separation can be resolved. In the meantime, the team controls the ex-coach's activities - which is probably a good thing given what may have been going down in the locker room or executive suite or what knowledge might be wanted by competitor teams.
 
Him and DL used to be best pals back in the San Jose days so that's the only reason I can imagine him wanting Sutter around.

If this is true for you guys, it's bad news. Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink. He has an issue or two. If the players didn't like Murray and his style lordy, lordy are the in for a treat. They'll be camping on Terry Murray's doorstep within the week begging him to come back.

And if you thought Murray was stifling the offense before...

Just a bad hire if true.
 
Him and DL used to be best pals back in the San Jose days so that's the only reason I can imagine him wanting Sutter around.

If this is true for you guys, it's bad news. Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink. He has an issue or two. If the players didn't like Murray and his style lordy, lordy are the in for a treat. They'll be camping on Terry Murray's doorstep within the week begging him to come back.

And if you thought Murray was stifling the offense before...

Just a bad hire if true.

Hope so! That top pick will come in handy for the new GM to rebuild around.

::sigh::
 
Him and DL used to be best pals back in the San Jose days so that's the only reason I can imagine him wanting Sutter around.

If this is true for you guys, it's bad news. Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink. He has an issue or two. If the players didn't like Murray and his style lordy, lordy are the in for a treat. They'll be camping on Terry Murray's doorstep within the week begging him to come back.

And if you thought Murray was stifling the offense before...

Just a bad hire if true.

It literally cannot get any worse than 30th in offensive output. Bring on Sutter.
 
I don't think Sutter would be as bad as people are saying, but I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble the Flames are causing.
 
Him and DL used to be best pals back in the San Jose days so that's the only reason I can imagine him wanting Sutter around.

If this is true for you guys, it's bad news. Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink. He has an issue or two. If the players didn't like Murray and his style lordy, lordy are the in for a treat. They'll be camping on Terry Murray's doorstep within the week begging him to come back.

And if you thought Murray was stifling the offense before...

Just a bad hire if true.

Ladies and gentlemen *Sister Mary Sunshine*!!!!!!!!

Well plik, you must not have read much of what the Flames fans who have spoken on this hiring have actually said. The one warning abut DS is that we not let him GM but as a coach they like the hiring. Go ahead and take a look.

Besides that the fans around here actually know hockey pretty well and also have the ability to determine what is or isn't a "bad hire" all on their own.

Thank you for your opinion and all but it seems to be out on its own when it comes to DS as a coach.

I think he will be fine for at least a bit.

How many cups has that coach in San Jose won since Sutter left?

Just kidding around. All opinions are welcome.

Who knows how it will work out but thanks for your concerns and..

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
 
I'm starting to worry whether or not a coaching change will be enough. I think Sutter will need to even up his own intensity if he hopes to whip this team into shape.
 
I am starting to worry that this is going to end up like our UFA pursuits.

I see it now:
Sutter signs with the Rangers and get Steve Mc Kenna as our next coach.
 
Him and DL used to be best pals back in the San Jose days so that's the only reason I can imagine him wanting Sutter around.

If this is true for you guys, it's bad news. Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink. He has an issue or two. If the players didn't like Murray and his style lordy, lordy are the in for a treat. They'll be camping on Terry Murray's doorstep within the week begging him to come back.

And if you thought Murray was stifling the offense before...

Just a bad hire if true.

Have you ever even watched a game that Sutter has coached?

Sorry, but your statement of "Near the end for him in Calgary guys didn't even want to go to the rink." couldn't be more wrong. First, he was the GM when let go by Calgary. Secondly, his last year of coaching the team finished with 103 points. That sure does tell me the players didn't want to go to the rink because of Sutter.
 
I don't think Sutter would be as bad as people are saying, but I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble the Flames are causing.

I don't think the Flames are causing any sort of trouble. This is all super speculative right now. And as far as we fans know, Sutter is all set to go but he is currently working out things for someone to take over his farm in Alberta. You gotta remember, the guy hasn't been involved in hockey for over a year...he has probably settled into a nice lifestyle that is going to be difficult to transition back out of.
 
General manager Dean Lombardi addressed the players again after practice Wednesday at Nationwide Arena. He was calmer than he was Monday at a Boston hotel, when he told them he had fired coach Terry Murray and used, as one player put it, “a lot of bleeped words.â€

Is Sutter the right choice, anyway? He has a strong coaching record and came within a game of winning the Cup with the Calgary Flames in 2004. But he’s a defense-first guy, like Murray, and he hasn’t coached since 2005-06. He hasn’t been seen in hockey circles since he was fired as the Flames’ GM last December, retreating to his farm in Viking, Alberta. He hasn’t even spoken to his brother Brent, the Flames’ coach, according to the Calgary Sun. This is man who is heavy on the frowns and light on the smiles, and this is a team that is heavy on the frowns and light on the smiles already.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_y...otsonika-limbo_kings_coach_distraction_121411

Decent article.
 
Yeah I don't think Dean was waiting a week or two to get everything lined up. From what I hear, the firing was decided on Sunday morning and then it got leaked pretty quickly.

There's a lot to be done, I am sure Sutter is taking care of his farming duties and so forth. He's also got to line up some assistants.

I think the decision was made on Sunday to fire TM as well, but that meant the Kings were going to start the process of looking and then hiring someone (likely would have skipped the looking and just went to hiring DS). I think TM was expected to coach the road trip and likely be fired once DS could join the team. When the article got leaked, it forced DL to fire TM then, out of respect for TM. If that story doesn't get leaked, I say TM is still the coach until Tuesday. There's no other reason why TM would fly to Boston, only to have DL fly out there and fire him. If the Kings didn't want TM to coach on the road, they would have fired him in LA.

Where did I say you needed a job opening? This is about being professional and not announcing that you are requesting permission to hire coaches before you even hire your coach. There is a huge difference between talking with someone unemployed and unaffiliated, and talking to someone under another organization's payroll. If we asked the Penguins about Granato it would have been everywhere. This is about handling things professionally, just because Dean can doesn't mean he should. All those examples you listed are for coaches that weren't employed. Of course you can talk to them, but the coaches we were looking into are under contract elsewhere. Massive difference.

No they weren't unemployed. That's just a lie and you know it. Muller was coaching in Milwaukee AS AN EMPLOYEE of Nashville and Boudreau was still AN EMPLOYEE of Washington. Boudreau, if anything, was in the same boat as Sutter, minus the GM duties. He was releived of duties as coach, but he's still an employee of the team. The same will happen with Carlyle when someone picks him up as well. There is no difference at all between Sutter and those of Boudreau and Muller at all. Even hunter was under contract, but that was to his own team that he owned, so a different situation there.

And things only get "everywhere" if someone leaks it. It wasn't everywhere when Payne, Boudreau and maurice were fired. Everyone knew Carlyle was getting fired, but it wasn't "everywhere" that the Ducks were talking to Boudreau.

The only reason this is everywhere is because the Kings have a leak somewhere, since the majority of new information is coming from Helene, from the TM firing to what is going on with the Sutter negotiations. You want to know what the "massive difference" is, it's that the Kings don't know how to keep their pieholes shut like other teams do.

Another thing to keep in mind, aren't most coaches "relieved of their duties"? Kept under contract until the terms of a separation can be resolved. In the meantime, the team controls the ex-coach's activities - which is probably a good thing given what may have been going down in the locker room or executive suite or what knowledge might be wanted by competitor teams.

They are relieved of their coaching duties, but there rarely is a seperation outside of just letting the contract lapse over time. It's a way to pay out the salary over time rather than pay it out in a lump sum. Once the coach finds a new gig though, then a seperation is worked out. It doesn't take long to do in many cases, which is why I think in the case of Sutter, it's more personal issues, such as dealing with family, his farm, holidays, etc. than anything else.
 
You want to know what the "massive difference" is, it's that the Kings don't know how to keep their pieholes shut like other teams do.
Gotta agree with that. Someone is talking too much and as much as I like to be informed, that bothers me. In my opinion whoever is doing it, does not work in organization's best interest.

Also Brown should just stop sending SMS to every damn journalist in the country. I think all those "as one player said" come from Brown. :)
 
After reading the following piece from Darren Dreger, I could care less of the opinion of fans who highly oppose the hiring of Darryl Sutter.

Q: Darren, what is it that Kings GM Dean Lombardi sees in Darryl Sutter to consider him as head coach?

A: Michael, obviously there is history between Sutter and Lombardi. Darryl is a smart hockey man who's incredibly intense, very strict and demands accountability. There's that word again...however, accountability was a word used often by Dean Lombardi during his media conference call on Monday. Lombardi holds the players accountable for Terry Murray's firing and also places the onus on the players to climb back in to the hunt. Sutter, who is expected to be introduced as the Kings next coach on Tuesday, knows how to motivate individuals on a game to game basis. It may not be fun for awhile in the L.A. dressing room as Sutter squeezes each player to learn what they're made of.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=382882&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
 
Like I said in LGK, if Sutter is going to light a fire in the Kings butts, then I'm all for it. Kings need a coach to push the players and I'm confident Sutter will get the job done.
 
After reading the following piece from Darren Dreger, I could care less of the opinion of fans who highly oppose the hiring of Darryl Sutter.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=382882&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
It's really interesting how one's views can change over time. I am a teacher by trade, and in doing that I have learned to construct a teaching ethos of calm authority, stability, predictability, but with room in the classroom for open discussion and even jokes. I try to always be patient and approachable. I am not an easy teacher by any stretch--I grade about half a grade harder than many of my peers. However, I let the grades do the negative reinforcing, while I maintain a more amiable persona for the students. I've found that a cooler demeanor will drive students away, and what I really want is for them to see their problems in their work and then come to me for guidance.

Without really realizing it, I think I gravitated toward coaches that did the same: "teacher" type coaches. I think I really looked down on "drill sergeant" types who motivate by volume, who get in people's faces, who call people out by name.

But now, having read a lot more about Sutter, having watched a bit of John Tortorella on 24/7, I'm really coming around to a much firmer approach. I like the way that Sutter and Tortorella seem to be able to get a lot of emotion out of their players, and it's clear that many players respond really well to that kind of motivation. I'll probably never adopt it in the classroom, but I'm actually looking forward now to what Sutter can do for this team. I want to see how guys like Doughty, Johnson, Brown, and Kopitar respond to these kicks in the pants.

tl;dr: I'm okay with Sutter now.
 
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Like I said in LGK, if Sutter is going to light a fire in the Kings butts, then I'm all for it. Kings need a coach to push the players and I'm confident Sutter will get the job done.

Agreed, some of the players need that fire, and I also watched 24/7 and you could see how the players reacted to Lavvy and Torts. Sutter is a huge Richards fan, has been since he was drafted (would have taken him if Phanuef was gone). I wouldn't be surprised if after viewing the tapes of the first quarter of the season, he makes the move to give Richards the C, since he's clearly the best leader. It's not coincidence that this team is 1-5 without him.

The team has most of the ingredients for a good , deep run-solid goaltending, solid defense, and two elite centers. What they need is an upgrade (elite) on top winger and an upgrade on the third line. Washington is failing a bit now and I wonder if they need a shakeup and would deal Knuble.

I expect the Kings to make a move by Feb deadline.
 
Just wanted to add that Sutter has joined one team mid-season before, and that was Calgary.

Prior to Sutter getting there, the Flames were 10-18-8. After Sutter arrived, the Flames were 19-18-9. The Flames also dealt away a few vets (Neidermayer, Johansson) at the deadline that year, so Sutter had a little less to work with than Greg Gilbert and Al MacNeil did earlier in the eyar.

Calgary that year also didn't have nearly the talent we do. After Iginla and Conroy, they had Drury and Gelinas with 50+ points. After that, their next highest scorer was Toni Lydman at 26 points. They only had eight players total score more than 20 points that season and had Roman Turek in net. If Sutter can do that with that team (remember the GM that year was Craig Button, enough said about the talent he had to work with) hopefully he can do something better with this talented squad.
 

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