Kings News: [Hammond] LA Kings Have Hired Darryl Sutter As New Head Coach

[DAkings20]

I am under the impression that he is going to clean house.

Hopefully, can he get rid of a couple players too

 

[Scottkmlps]

Y'all should goto fan960 and listen to the boomer interview with Elliot Friedman this morning. Rhett Warrener was on. He has played for Both Terry Murray and Sutter. He said that Sutter was better. Much more fire. He knew how to get the best out of his players. They all loved him. He also mentioned how he benched Iginla many times and called him out in the media alot but Iginla loved him. That says alot.

And that's what's going to be good about Sutter. He holds EVERYONE accountable. It doesn't matter if you're a star or an AHL call up. You don't play to the best of your ability, you don't play...period. Unlike Murray, who just singled out the 3rd & 4th liners, and the young players like Bernier, Martinez, Loktionov, etc., and gave the top players of this team a free pass time & time again.

 

[etherialone]

I haven't heard anything not that it matters.

Also I don't know who to move really. We need to move one of our D to make room and we should move at least one of our forwards but which ones and for which sniper?

Its a weird time.

 

[Scottkmlps]

I am under the impression that he is going to clean house.

Wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the conditions, and Dean said, "Whatever it takes Darryl. Whatever it takes."

 

[Theav8tr]

Daryl bringing his own asst coaches.


allegedly.

Good! I like Stevens, but I think tonight showed that we need 3 new individuals behind the bench going forward. If we change one, we should change out all 3 at this point. Feel bad for JS, but no so much for JK.

This will at least be an interesting time for the LA Kings if nothing else...GKG!

 

[Telos]

I don't care either way if Stevens stays or goes, but Kompon absolutely has to go. The only coach I really want to see remain is Ranford.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Yeah guys, I think this move will be pretty much all postive for your players. I think Sutter may be able to get Kopitar to take his game to that next level. Kopitar is excellent defensively, and as long as he takes care of that part of his game first, then Sutter will put him in a position to utilize his offensive skills to the best of his ability. Brown and Stoll are prototypical Sutter players, and a guy like Richards will easily become Sutter`s favorite on your team. Richards will excel playing for a coach like Sutter. The guy I am worried about is Penner, he will either make or break him. Make no mistake, there will be some casualities and they will be the soft players. But those moves will not be made until the offseason.

Anyways, I think Sutter will be great for your team for about the next 3-4 years, then beyond that is anyones guess. Best of luck the rest of the way, like Highlander said I too am I really stoked to see Sutter come back.

Can`t wait to see our teams play in a Sutter vs Sutter match.

 

[Scottkmlps]

I don't care either way if Stevens stays or goes, but Kompon absolutely has to go. The only coach I really want to see remain is Ranford.

Forgot about Ranford. Yes, he's got to stay.

 

[palffytofrovlov]

Forgot about Ranford. Yes, he's got to stay.

Yes I think our goaltending is fine with Ranford...I wonder which assistants Sutter will bring? Former players? Former flames? Kings? Or coaches... I like the Sutter hiring he is no nonsense and will bring the intensity we need. Now a trade needs to be made I think stoll and Martinez are the first to go or maybe scuds due to worth and remove a big salary.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Yes I think our goaltending is fine with Ranford...I wonder which assistants Sutter will bring? Former players? Former flames? Kings? Or coaches... I like the Sutter hiring he is no nonsense and will bring the intensity we need. Now a trade needs to be made I think stoll and Martinez are the first to go or maybe scuds due to worth and remove a big salary.

Scuderi is going no where.

 

[ZJames]

Scuderi is going no where.

This.

I really dont see why so many people want to trade scuderi.

 

[Martyros]

I'd get rid of Greene and sign Scuderi to a 2 year extension next year. Greene is also stuck in the old ages. He keeps taking useless clutching/grabbing penalties, although he is one of very few that chooses to push the opposition around a little.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

This is exactly what the Kings need from their new coach:

“Darryl had a knack for putting guys out and getting something big to happen,” he says. “Ville Nieminen. Or Chris Clark. It’s easy to put Jarome out, but it’s the other guys. Stephane Yelle. We had success with maybe not the best teams, but he got as much as he could out of every single guy.”

The day he arrived in Calgary, Sutter, after being introduced to the players in the dressing room, politely asked the team’s brass to leave so he could address the players.

“He wanted to be with just his team,” recalls Conroy. “He just kind of laid it out, ‘This is what it’s going to be like, where we’re going to go, how we’re going to do it.’ It was a very short meeting. And away we went. Darryl’s good. He’s quick.

“He can push the right buttons at the right time. You knew what your role was. If you did it? Great. If you didn’t? You heard about it.”

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Flames...+Sutter+link/5856749/story.html#ixzz1gUbbsUuN

 

[ZJames]

This is exactly what the Kings need from their new coach:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Flames...+Sutter+link/5856749/story.html#ixzz1gUbbsUuN

I keep hearing everyone saying how horrible it would be to hire him, and I keep hoping they are wrong (cause I dont really know much about Sutter), but this sounds like the kind of guy its going to take to get this team to pull their heads out of their butts.

 

[Scottkmlps]

This is exactly what the Kings need from their new coach:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Flames...+Sutter+link/5856749/story.html#ixzz1gUbbsUuN

Yup, definitely what this team needs right now. I like how he went in and laid it all down. Laid it out for them, no B.S.

I think everyone needs to watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inL5yn3GaFA

Notice how many of those goals are due to players taking the puck to the net, and/or crashing the net? It's none of this dot-to-board crap, it's dot-to-net. They get the puck to the net, and there is 3 forwards around that puck. The d-men also get quick shots off. It's pass to the d-man, and get a shot off right away. None of this fake shot crap. They get it on there stick and it's instantly heading towards the net. Also a lot more movement on the powerplay.
How people can say Sutter and Murray are alike is beyond me. I see nothing similar in that video that would describe Murray hockey. Nothing.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Was just thinking that this is kinda like what the Blackhawks did when they had Savard as their head coach. They had a guy, who like Murray, was a friendly, soft spoken coach in Savard. They canned him and brought in a hard nosed, take no crap attitude coach in Quennville, like Sutter. I'm thinking that turned out pretty good for them. Not saying it's going to produce the same results, but the situation is quite similar.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Watching that video you posted, I love how the Flames take the puck from the boards right to the middle of the ice. They willed their way to the prime scoring areas and got their shots in through the middle of the ice. Like you said, none of that dot-to-board crap.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

You know, the more I get past the name Sutter and all the bad thoughts associated with it, the more I think about how he is actually a good coach. He always maximized the play of every player, especially bottom liners which is what the Kings need. It was more his GMing that gets flak, as it should. He did have his most success pre-lockout, but even post-lockout he led some pretty average at very best Flames teams to playoffs and division titles. He might actually be a half-decent hire, assuming he NEVER EVER EVER gets the GM job. I have no desire to have a team of 31 washed up (and were average in their prime) players signed to NMC....

 

[Ollie Weeks]

I am under the impression that he is going to clean house.

****in eh

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Call up Mark Hardy! I'd like to see him back behind the bench handling defensive duties.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Is it official?

 

[Moses Doughty]

Do it Dean, we need him asap

 

[kingsfan]

For this to be a really interesting comparison, it would be great to see the goals and assists of each player on the roster of Sutter-coached teams before, during and after his tenure, regardless of where they wound up playing.

Did Sutter have any teams that were anything close to the talent level of this Kings team (on paper)?

In Chicago to start, he had a more veteran team with guys like Belfour, Chelios, Larmer and Brent Sutter, but he also had Roenick. By his final season, much of core remained, but they also had Bernie Nicholls, Gary Suter and Tony Amonte.

San Jose was built by Lombardi, so very similar to LA. His first season in San Jose was Lombardi's second. So if we compared the fifth season Lombardi had the team, which would have been the 2000-2001 season, the Sharks had Marleau, Owen Nolan, Vincent Damphousse, Mike Ricci, Gary Suter and Brad Stuart, as well as Nabokov in net.

That was also the season the Sharks picked up Teemu Selanne at the deadline.

The Flames obviously were not as talent as LA is currently, outside of having Jarome Iginla, a solid defense and Kiprusoff. Offensively though they weren't as good.

I'd say for their respective times, Chicago was overall better than LA now, San Jose was comparible and IMO equal, and Calgary was less talented.

Sutter came in, and changed the culture of the Flames. He FORCED everyone to buy in. You didn't buy in, you didn't play. Heck - he benched Jarome during some games. I remember Conroy laughing about it as they were talking about Darryl. Something along the lines of "Don't you two princesses worry about going back out there and chipping a nail. You guys are done for the night."

Seems like to me, LA is a very good team, and probably needs a 'tough as nails' coach. The players tuned out TM, sure.. but there are 2 reasons they can't tune out Darryl:

He demands work ethic. If you are lazy, you simply don't play. It is that simple with Darryl.

This is the stuff I want. TM let things go and when he finally tried to reign the team in, they had it to easy for so long they just tuned him out. That's my opinion of what happened. TM never benched or sat anyone, outside of Bernier, Richardson and Lewis, regardless of bad play or not. That needs to change.

P.S. By the way the one thing that teed me off about Daryl was he believed that you shouldn't practice the power-play because you became too predictable for the opposition. That was ridiculous with the Sharks pre-Thornton because our guys weren't vets who knew what to do on the PP and how to adjust. I suppose if you had a team like the 80's Oilers maybe there is some upside to not practicing the PP.

Here's a look at Sutter led teams on the powerplay since 97-98 (could find stats for before then).

97-98 16th (26 teams)
98-99 23rd (27 teams)
99-2000 15th (28 teams)
00-01 24th (30 teams)
01-02 13th
03-04 21st
05-06 12th

Hardly great, but a few so-so seasons in there. Our powerplay right now stinks though (21st and falling fast), so it can't get much worse.

Give Sutter a chance. I'm so excited to see him back behind the bench. He is a smart individual and phenomenal coach. I can't wait until we play the L.A. Kings now and I'll definitely be tuning in to the team a lot more now.

Media will hate his guts but as a fan, I've always admired his nonchalant, almost arrogant attitude.

I love how much Flames fans defend this guy. That more than anything is swinging me in favor if DS. As a GM I think he stinks, but as a coach I'm willing to give this a go.

Would like to see Stevens stay on as defence coach, but Kompon......GET THE **** OUT!!

I hope Stevens stays too.

You know, the more I get past the name Sutter and all the bad thoughts associated with it, the more I think about how he is actually a good coach. He always maximized the play of every player, especially bottom liners which is what the Kings need. It was more his GMing that gets flak, as it should. He did have his most success pre-lockout, but even post-lockout he led some pretty average at very best Flames teams to playoffs and division titles. He might actually be a half-decent hire, assuming he NEVER EVER EVER gets the GM job. I have no desire to have a team of 31 washed up (and were average in their prime) players signed to NMC....

Sutter only coached one season post-lockout (05-06). Other than that, I agree with your post completely. No GMing for Sutter, just let him coach and get the players working again.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Now that the board has time to think about it, I'm glad to see that more and more posters are accepting of Sutter.

My only question is, what's the friggin delay?

 

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