Player Discussion Had Pettersson Regressed?

[Grub]

Good grief some of you guys.

You trade Pettersson if you think hes not a "good player" or more precisely if you think you can get something more valuable to your organisation back.

You dont trade him because your feelings got hurt.

I think a lot of people got their feelings hurt about Petey's statement of wanting to be in a "winning team" whilst holding out on his contract. The Sedins never did this class act, and they only started earning the big bucks during their prime and late 20's. He doesn't get much slack anymore since he signed that 7+ million bridge deal. Kid has to perform.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

I think a lot of people got their feelings hurt about Petey's statement of wanting to be in a "winning team" whilst holding out on his contract. The Sedins never did this class act, and they only started earning the big bucks during their prime and late 20's. He doesn't get much slack anymore since he signed that 7+ million bridge deal. Kid has to perform.

So what?

Sedins were the most "morally pure" and exemplary players and people you could have.

And they still got shit on even though they were "fairly" paid.


I guess to Pettersson credit at least he was smart enough to get paid for getting shit on.

 

[Diversification]

Was watching him closely last night. One thing that was obvious is that he's chasing the play, like he's overwhelmed with the pace.That's more than a bit concerning because it's the opposite of what makes him a special player.

Have to think that it's a mental block on his part. If I were advising him, I'd have him watch footage of his play in his rookie and sophmore season. I'd point out that the reason he was effective was that he anticipated the play before it unfolded and then used his prodigious skill to exploit his advanced understanding of the play. It was always sequential: anticipation then pushing the play in a positive direction.

If I were to pinpoint where his play took a downturn, I'd say it was the beginning of his sophmore year where he'd try to initiate the play by facilitating the cycle and acting as the bumper on a screen upfront. Criminal misuse of his talents that I'm going to uncharitably lay at TG's feet.

This player plays best when he's always thinking fast and always acting to put his team in a better position. From that perch, he sees the play develop faster than just about anyone and that's what makes him a special and creative player.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Honestly, at this point I'm not convinced he's mentally able to take that next step.

He looks endlessly frustrated and has since Toffoli walked. Something clearly happened along the way that soured him on this management and coaching staff. He doesn't play with anywhere near the amount of urgency he used to. I blame Green for a lot of this, he hasn't put him in a position to succeed. Constantly cycling his linemates and keeping him in the same spot every PP, and it's clearly not working.

If something around Eichel was available, I would 100% make that move.

 

[rypper]

Trading for Eichel signals this season is a write off.

 

[likash]

Honestly, at this point I'm not convinced he's mentally able to take that next step.

He looks endlessly frustrated and has since Toffoli walked. Something clearly happened along the way that soured him on this management and coaching staff. He doesn't play with anywhere near the amount of urgency he used to. I blame Green for a lot of this, he hasn't put him in a position to succeed. Constantly cycling his linemates and keeping him in the same spot every PP, and it's clearly not working.

If something around Eichel was available, I would 100% make that move.

You are crazy my friend. Wanting to get rid of your crown jewel after 6 games is nuts. Trading him for a cancer like Eichel who's status is uncertain is even more crazy. You are praising Garland and OEL on 6 games sample in which Demko carried the team and you shit on Petey. What kind of fan are you? Those 2 have barely arrived and you call them a clear win based on 6 games.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

You are crazy my friend. Wanting to get rid of your crown jewel after 6 games is nuts. Trading him for a cancer like Eichel who's status is uncertain is even more crazy. You are praising Garland and OEL on 6 games sample in which Demko carried the team and you shit on Petey. What kind of fan are you? Those 2 have barely arrived and you call them a clear win based on 6 games.

It's been longer than 6 games now. This goes back to the Vegas series.

 

[Cupless44]

Personally I am really happy he is signed to a shorter bridge contract and I felt that way before this season. This player has been over rated, over hyped in this market and annointed a super star before he is one. This player has a ton still to prove before he is signed long term...starting with getting stronger, he is so weak....staying healthy...showing some intensity...some imagination on the powerplay...maybe win a face off...not an impact player right now.

He wanted the big contract...he wants to be on a winner and made that clear...he is going to start facing some heat in an intense market that previously adored him if he doesnt find some jam and improve his game.

 

[Cupless44]

Delete

 

[thekernel]

He was never going to score 10 goals every 10 games, if that's what you mean. But he's gonna be fine. Even when he's """""struggling""""" he's still setting up grade-A chances every night. You nutters will find anything to complain about.

 

[Cupless44]

He was never going to score 10 goals every 10 games, if that's what you mean. But he's gonna be fine. Even when he's """""struggling""""" he's still setting up grade-A chances every night. You nutters will find anything to complain about.

He wants to be highly paid. He was the worst player on the ice last night by a significant margin and deserves to be called on it.

If he can't play with some jam and motivation in that atmosphere last night I am not sure when he will.

 

[wetcoast]

Petey was the most dynamic in his rookie season. He wasn't as good in his sophomore season but he still managed to put up the points. Part of that was Miller driving the bus and part of that was Petey being the level of player who can produce offensively even when not performing at his best. His third season was injury plagued but it appeared similar to his second year.

Petey relies a lot on his elite shooting. He picks corners with both his wrist shot and one timers. A lot of that is timing for him and when his timing is off he misses the net instead of scoring top shelf.

I think it's just the nature of things that Petey had more room to operate in his rookie year. Since then everyone knows when he's on the ice and they especially look for his one timer on the PP. The great players manage to find a way and Petey just needs to do a better job of doing that if he wants to be among the elite.

Right now, Petey's timing is off and he's not getting any more room to operate. The game is fast and Petey plays fast. Petey not being at full speed is going to affect his production.

Fully agree with this and he ahs the talent to shake off the rust of missing training camp but let's see if he does it.

We should all sit back and look how he does in his next 6 and then dozen games if the rust isn't off by then then it will be time to reconsider.

 

[bandwagonesque]

The version of Petey we have now is a good player and probably a first liner. But I wanted the version that made brilliant passes with no room, roofed shots from 25-30 feet out and found open ice or led others to open ice effortlessly. I don't think the fact this player isn't here anymore is explained by scouting and adjustments made by opposing teams.

 

[supercanuck]

Something's up with EP, and hopefully the Sedins can get to the bottom of it. This season has just been a continuation of early last season...

 

[Janvonpobben]

It's been longer than 6 games now. This goes back to the Vegas series.

Pettersson is PPG in playoffs.

Time to get rid of him after a few regular season games. Talk about shortsighted.

 

[krutovsdonut]

dude progressed beyond belief i think by willing and visualizing himself to be a certain player then doing the work. he seems like a loner.

the last two seasons he prepped to take the next step and be a true number one centre, only to find when he hit the icethat has not happened.

last year he adjusted once it was clear that was not the case. this year i hope the same happens.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

During his rookie season he seemed to stick handle better in traffic and dangle defenders drawing a lot of penalties, seems like that special skillset in his game is declining as he’s not utilizing it as much.

 

[PG Canuck]

Now would be a good time to mention his outfits look ridiculous too. So some malls have really expensive stores, and you went to those stores and bought an assortment of clothes in complementary colours that fit properly? Knock me over with a feather.

Terrible post. Who cares

 

[bandwagonesque]

Terrible post. Who cares

If the theme here is that we're now going to find fault with almost everything he does, including stuff we were happy to overlook or simply see as eccentric earlier, then I'm going to hate on him for wearing dumbass streetwear sweaters and big floppy toques and posting about it on Instagram like anyone is supposed to care.

 

[Svencouver]

If the theme here is that we're now going to find fault with almost everything he does, including stuff we were happy to overlook or simply see as eccentric earlier, then I'm going to hate on him for wearing dumbass streetwear sweaters and big floppy toques and posting about it on Instagram like anyone is supposed to care.

people making a big deal about whatever outfit a player wants to wear is so cringe. goes for the toronto players getting shit for it too

 

[Carl Carlson]

then he shouldn’t have missed training camp

Missing training camp wasn't good, but honestly Benning could have wrapped that negotiation up a lot quicker.

 

[NYVanfan]

it is early, but the concerning thing to me seems to be his wheels -- he just doesnt seem to have his usual speed, which was above average. Looks very average now, and then when he tries the dangles they get stopped more than half the time. Considering he missed training camp and we're only half dozen games in, and the record is ok, willing to wait a few weeks, but it is concerning.

 

[geebster]

First couple games he looked fine and created some really good chances. Last 3 games have been historically bad for him. To me it is meaningless at this point.

There is no way to know if hes done as a superstar or if this is just because he hasnt played in forever and needs some time. I think the latter is far more likely than the former, but the only way anyone can know is to wait and see. Opining about what might be the case isnt worth the effort. Assuming any situation is permanent is a mistake people often make. Both for good and bad situations. Petey is not likely to always be bad, Garland isnt going to always carry us on his back each night (though he may try).

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

He looks like he's mentally checked out and wants out, however another majorly concerning thing is that his wrist shot is gone. It looks like Naslunds shot that we saw in 2007-2008...This is the biggest concern I have about injuries. It can physically hinder your shot and pass accuracy and screw up your mental focus.

Always hope it is a process of recovery, but then I remember how god awful and disinterested he looked to start of 2021. Ugh.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

There's probably a correlation between his play dropping off and his social media taking off. As stupid as that sounds. Guy hasn't improved enough despite what we saw in his rookie season and the bubble. I'm sure he'll get back to being a ppg player, but I don't see him ever warranting 10M/season like some here wanted.