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Player Discussion Had Pettersson Regressed?

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Billy Kvcmu said:
Funny you said that
Pettersson was very good during the bubble playoff, he shows up when the stage got bigger and tougher.
Quitting on incompetent boss is different than quitting on tough task, it’s called being smart.
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I am confused. Don't the players in the playoffs for free?

I thought money was the driving force though. This is all so confusing.
 
Billy Kvcmu said:
Funny you said that
Pettersson was very good during the bubble playoff, he shows up when the stage got bigger and tougher.
Quitting on incompetent boss is different than quitting on tough task, it’s called being smart.
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He quit at the beginning of last season when we were getting slaughted and he has quit this season as well. Its a trend, he doesnt want to be a part of the solution and instead wants to be a part of the problem. Thats a choice he has made twice in b2b years now.

Its never a smart move because word gets around and you start to become known as that guy who nobody wants, granted sports are known for giving guys 3rd and 4th chances if they are talented enough, IE Antonio Brown, Kareem Hunt, Ray Lewis, Evander Kane ETC
 
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MS said:
Pettersson right now looks identical to how Edler looked in 13-14 when he totally quit on Tortorella.
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Yeah, that may be so but I don’t believe it’s intentional. It’s just that Petterson isn’t able to perform given the circumstances. He’s not saying « f@#k it, I’m not playing for these guys ». I’m sure he wants to perform better but is just unable to things being what they are.
 
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Gstank said:
He quit at the beginning of last season when we were getting slaughted and he has quit this season as well. Its a trend, he doesnt want to be a part of the solution and instead wants to be a part of the problem. Thats a choice he has made twice in b2b years now.

Its never a smart move because word gets around and you start to become known as that guy who nobody wants, granted sports are known for giving guys 3rd and 4th chances if they are talented enough, IE Antonio Brown, Kareem Hunt, Ray Lewis, Evander Kane ETC
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Those players you listed are nothing alike to EP

EP is a part of the young generation players, one thing we know is that most of the Gen Z players aren’t blindly loyal to their team, they recognize stupid hockey ppl when they see one.

The league is changing, EP isn’t the first and won’t be the last one to quit on his team for personal reasons.

Dubois literally strolled on the ice mid game last season in Columbus. He’s doing pretty well now in Winnipeg
 
Billy Kvcmu said:
Why is it that big of a deal when a player quits on the team because of incompetent bosses?
NHL players went on multiple strikes as a group in the past 3 decades..
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You don't see the difference between going on strike and quitting in the moment as an individual?

I'll give you a hint. One indicates a complete lack of personal pride and character, the other is fighting for fair wages.
 
DonnyNucker said:
Hate to say it but they miss guys like beagle and Sutter (not their brutal contracts). The team has no leadership. Horvat is not a real captain.
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Yeah. They miss company men that they can buy and not worry about feelings and relationships.

shitty people I tell ya.
 
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Billy Kvcmu said:
I’m being honest here, I’m really happy that EP and Brock have clearly gave up

Like seriously, who do we need more now? Players who have gave up already and don’t mind losing or player that only play at their best when there’s no pressure on the season anymore? (Aka Brendon Sutter)

f*** professionalism
If I hate my workplace and my boss, I would also half ass my effort
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Da.

Shitty people deserve my worst effort.
 
Billy Kvcmu said:
Those players you listed are nothing alike to EP

EP is a part of the young generation players, one thing we know is that most of the Gen Z players aren’t blindly loyal to their team, they recognize stupid hockey ppl when they see one.

The league is changing, EP isn’t the first and won’t be the last one to quit on his team for personal reasons.

Dubois literally strolled on the ice mid game last season in Columbus. He’s doing pretty well now in Winnipeg[/QUOTE]
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that part is wrong gen Z just think everyone they disagree with should be cancelled or is stupid because they dont see the world the same as them. They are also a lot more self centered and have a lot more mental health issues because of the image the social media protrays to them as the "lifestyle" They dont recongize stupid, infact they worship stupid like the "Catch me outside girl" or the Pauls because they "made it"

PLD was also invisible last season with winnipeg remember that? Also Winnipeg is struggling right now so we will see if PLD disappears again
 
TraderJim said:
I can tell a lot of you who think like this have never actually had "athletes" in their family or as friends. You talk about them like they are some different species.

They are human. They behave like... shocker... humans.
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I actually was an athlete, and it's still true.

Chaos in the team will definitely make you play worse, but if you quit on the team, you're a quitter and not a quality athlete, period.

Talented, perhaps. But being successful in sports (and life) is about a lot more than talent. It's about mentality and character as well.
 
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Breakers said:
This is why bridge deals are so good.
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A shit zebra doesn’t change its stripes.

Even though they miraculously fixed the team this off season, it’s all fake and just part of ownership managing the players.

As opposed to building relationships based on trust and integrity like Gilly.
 
Billy Kvcmu said:
Those players you listed are nothing alike to EP

EP is a part of the young generation players, one thing we know is that most of the Gen Z players aren’t blindly loyal to their team, they recognize stupid hockey ppl when they see one.

The league is changing, EP isn’t the first and won’t be the last one to quit on his team for personal reasons.

Dubois literally strolled on the ice mid game last season in Columbus. He’s doing pretty well now in Winnipeg
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Most hockey players like most athletes playing a team sport, feel loyalty first and foremost, to their teammates, not so much management. No, Petterson doesn’t have a personal vendetta against Benning or Green. It’s fits the prevailing narrative to say that but it’s not the reason. Benning and Green have to go.
 
The Borg could be overrunning things in his timeline, and he still wouldn't have a reason to look so defeated.
 
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It's still not the players fault as much as EP and boeser and horvat look like shit and none of them should be traded soon.

These kids really really need developmental support from the organization. Throwing them to the wolves right out of the gate is the way things get to this point.
 
VanillaCoke said:
It's still not the players fault as much as EP and boeser and horvat look like shit and none of them should be traded soon.

These kids really really need developmental support from the organization. Throwing them to the wolves right out of the gate is the way things get to this point.
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Horvat is 26, pushing 27. He's a veteran at this point. Boeser might as well be too. There's no excuse. They had years of Eriksson, Beagle,and Roussel and the likes to mentor them.
 
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Diamonddog01 said:
I honestly believe this player is dealing with some mental health issues. Hope it isn’t more serious than depression (which is a serious condition in and of itself).
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That has crossed my mind as well, although would never want to assume or armchair diagnose something like that.

That reaction to an OT winner when he was sitting on the bench last year was just so totally bizarre. It's the one thing that stands out that made me do a double-take and ask 'is this player ok?'.
 
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Cancuks said:
Horvat is 26, pushing 27. He's a veteran at this point. Boeser might as well be too. There's no excuse. They had years of Eriksson, Beagle,and Roussel and the likes to mentor them.
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Read this again and then reevaluate..
Nor was I talking about players.

Aside from the fact neither Horvat or Boeser had any real support the vast majority of their nhl careers.
 
Petey...... why ? Why ? why ?

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