Player Discussion Had Pettersson Regressed?

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I believe he had the passion, got a taste of "playoff success." Saw his mentors and teammates in Tanev, Stetcher, Markstrom and Edler leave, and has sulked and pouted ever since, and has now mentally checked out like how Naslund did in 2008.

lol..okay...I think you need a Snickers bar.....he's not a prima donna.

 

[nowhereman]

Pettersson has simply reached the limits of what he can achieve with the Canucks. He needs (and deserves) a move to a bigger, more successful club. I think he's smart enough to realize this.

If that's the case, there's nothing "smart" about it. It's pathetic. Real superstar players set the tone and lead by example.

I believe he had the passion, got a taste of "playoff success." Saw his mentors and teammates in Tanev, Stetcher, Markstrom and Edler leave, and has sulked and pouted ever since, and has now mentally checked out like how Naslund did in 2008.

I will say, I REALLY hope that's not the case. That's a putrid display of unprofessionalism that is very unbecoming of a young player.

 

[bandwagonesque]

I think it's his MAP sensor. At some point during the offseason someone overfilled him with oil (common mistake, they probably thought they were doing him a favour) and the blowby fouled the sensor on startup. Travis Green can either try to remove the oil from the sensor with brake cleaner, which doesn't always work, or just replace it altogether with the OEM part, which is less than $200. Half hour job.

 

[F A N]

The stories that came out about him from his rookie season, where he was always the last guy to leave practice because he'd stay out working on skills. So much so that other guys on the team started joining him.

I don't know if drive and work ethic like that goes away. We don't get the same kind of reports about it that we did before though. I guess with covid and his injuries it's possible it could have stopped. I'd be interested in reaching out to Drance or Jeff Paterson to see if it still happens.

I think drive and work ethic can and does go away. Doesn't mean it can't be recaptured or be developed. Kevin Weekes is now known for his work ethic when, according to Brian Burke, he was lazy and disinterested in playing.

 

[rypper]

I think drive and work ethic can and does go away. Doesn't mean it can't be recaptured or be developed. Kevin Weekes is now known for his work ethic when, according to Brian Burke, he was lazy and disinterested in playing.

I agree but I also have a hard time believing a player that was so driven and competitive out the gate has completely morphed into the hockey version of Eeyore within a year.

I think he shakes the slump eventually. I don't subscribe at all to the idea that he's broken or should be traded etc. That's ridiculous. (Not saying it was you that posted that kind of thing. )

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Let's just remember when EP got injured last year, the Canucks actually started playing their best hockey of the season without him, as bad of a year that it was, their best stretch of hockey was without EP before covid hit them, it was shocking to see because of how talented the kid is to see the team do better without him in the lineup. Then you see his struggles this year again and the team isn't playing great, you start to question is EP holding this team back somehow....

 

[Scorvat]

Let's just remember when EP got injured last year, the Canucks actually started playing their best hockey of the season without him, as bad of a year that it was, their best stretch of hockey was without EP before covid hit them, it was shocking to see because of how talented the kid is to see the team do better without him in the lineup. Then you see his struggles this year again and the team isn't playing great, you start to question is EP holding this team back somehow....

That's not true lol

Our best hockey was from the 10-18 game range when we actually outplayed our opponents but got burned by bad luck and goalies

Petey started really slow, but was still playing very well and was the best player from the 10th game till he went down

The team did have its best winning stretch once Petey went down, but that was because Demko was playing out of his mind and the PP started to click along with some

The teams 5v5 scoring cratered after he went down (Just check Miller's 5v5 stats after Petey went down, they aren't pretty)

 

[MikeK]

Very likely he'll struggle all season and never really find a groove. He missed training camp and most young players struggle after signing that first big contract extension. I hope I'm wrong but I really don't expect much out of him this season.

 

[likash]

Let's just remember when EP got injured last year, the Canucks actually started playing their best hockey of the season without him, as bad of a year that it was, their best stretch of hockey was without EP before covid hit them, it was shocking to see because of how talented the kid is to see the team do better without him in the lineup. Then you see his struggles this year again and the team isn't playing great, you start to question is EP holding this team back somehow....

False. Demko playing like god won us those games in march.

I'm getting tired of posters driving a certain narative based on lies. You are either intentionaly lying to bash Petey or you did not watch those games.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I think he improved last game
Still not good enough but slightly improvement

 

[canuckking1]

I think he improved last game
Still not good enough but slightly improvement

I actually agree. Highmore is useless and Hoglander had a poor game so I don't think he had much help. I think it's time he plays with the team's hottest winger Conor Garland.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

That's not true lol

Our best hockey was from the 10-18 game range when we actually outplayed our opponents but got burned by bad luck and goalies

Petey started really slow, but was still playing very well and was the best player from the 10th game till he went down

The team did have its best winning stretch once Petey went down, but that was because Demko was playing out of his mind and the PP started to click along with some

The teams 5v5 scoring cratered after he went down (Just check Miller's 5v5 stats after Petey went down, they aren't pretty)

Oh it's true, it's damn true.

Canucks were 9-16 before EP got hurt.

Canucks were 7-5 after EP got hurt and then covid hit, everything after covid is a wash, but they won 7 out of 9 games in one stretch without EP they sure couldn't do that with him in the lineup.

This is what I wrote last year to someone.

Yeah well there's a few things it could be, but it's very interesting especially when you lose a player of that caliber and the team starts doing better without him, Demko also has a huge impact in it though I'm not forgetting that.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

False. Demko playing like god won us those games in march.

I'm getting tired of posters driving a certain narative based on lies. You are either intentionaly lying to bash Petey or you did not watch those games.

It's not false its true, whether you want to accept it or not it's true, but of course some fans like to keep the blind goggles on all the time.

Again this is what I wrote to someone last year, and yes I acknowledge what Demko did, but they still did it without EP in the lineup

Yeah well there's a few things it could be, but it's very interesting especially when you lose a player of that caliber and the team starts doing better without him, Demko also has a huge impact in it though I'm not forgetting that.

 

[Grub]

He looks lost out there, the creativity and skill is just not there anymore. Lets hope it’s a case of “it’s early in the season” but it is starting to get worrying.

I’m actually glad we signed him to a 3 year contract, he has to show more if he wants that big contract.

 

[Get North]

That's not true lol

Our best hockey was from the 10-18 game range when we actually outplayed our opponents but got burned by bad luck and goalies

Petey started really slow, but was still playing very well and was the best player from the 10th game till he went down

The team did have its best winning stretch once Petey went down, but that was because Demko was playing out of his mind and the PP started to click along with some

The teams 5v5 scoring cratered after he went down (Just check Miller's 5v5 stats after Petey went down, they aren't pretty)

Canucks played their best hockey in March last year. Not 100% how many games Pettersson was in, but we only played hockey for 4 months. March was our best one.

 

[F A N]

they won 7 out of 9 games in one stretch without EP they sure couldn't do that with him in the lineup.

They didn’t doesn’t mean they couldn’t

 

[KingofSurrey]

I feel like maybe all the contract BS. has left him a bit under charged battery....

Or maybe the contract BS made him feel a little unwanted by the club...

 

[GranvilleIsland]

I feel like maybe all the contract BS. has left him a bit under charged battery....

Or maybe the contract BS made him feel a little unwanted by the club...

Sounds high maintenance.

 

[mathonwy]

I feel like maybe all the contract BS. has left him a bit under charged battery....

Or maybe the contract BS made him feel a little unwanted by the club...

Like maybe this.

EP40 is like, if you aren't going to pay me like a 1C then I'm not going to play like a 1C and I don't care about the cap issues you created for yourself.

QH43 on the other hand, by the looks of his play, is happy as a clam.

Pure speculation of course but the out of shape excuse for an athlete the caliber of EP is not plausible to me.

 

[Melvin]

Oh it's true, it's damn true.

Canucks were 9-16 before EP got hurt.

Canucks were 7-5 after EP got hurt and then covid hit, everything after covid is a wash, but they won 7 out of 9 games in one stretch without EP they sure couldn't do that with him in the lineup.

This is what I wrote last year to someone.

They got lucky and won a bunch of coin-flips in a small sample. 3 regulation wins in 11 games is right in line with how crappy they were all year. Unless the argument is that the team was better in the shootout without Petey, it's meaningless.

The team was complete ass from the start of the season right through to the very end. They won 4 in a row with Pettersson, lost 6 in a row with Pettersson before COVID and lost 6 in a row without him after COVID. Chopping up the season in this way to force a silly narrative is just that.

 

[brock hughes007]

He looks lost out there, the creativity and skill is just not there anymore. Lets hope it’s a case of “it’s early in the season” but it is starting to get worrying.

I’m actually glad we signed him to a 3 year contract, he has to show more if he wants that big contract.

He has the talent,,just wondering if he still has ongoing wrist issues ..I'm not to worried yet..

 

[CanucksSayEh]

During that near 2 minute PP of possession, you could have counted 3 or 4 goals that rookie EP would have buried.

 

[JimmyJiveJones]

Another reason why i think Petey is struggling is cause i think players know how to defend against him. I think players are just playing the body against him and not watching the puck and we all know hes not exactly strong on his skates.

 

[AzNightmare]

Too many excuses...
At the end the day, he's being paid as the best player on the team and he's clearly not producing enough nor controlling the game like one.
Just how many games does he need? 20? I would expect a player of his supposed caliber wouldn't be completely lost because of missing training camp.
What's worry some is how far of a former shell he is from his rookie season.
He looks like he's struggling more and more each season. At this point, I find it incredible hard to see him being a pt/game player.
At least the other team still respects his shot on the PP, but he hasn't scored from that spot in ages... unless you're counting funny bounces off the backboard.

 

[Grub]

I feel like maybe all the contract BS. has left him a bit under charged battery....

Or maybe the contract BS made him feel a little unwanted by the club...

Give me what that bunny's having. He is definitely on something. I think Pettersson needs a little jolt as well.