Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to Tampa in the first period

[Lafleurs Guy]

It is pathetic. I've pointed out that if Habs had a league average PP year round, they'd probably be in or close to a wildcard spot. Fortunately this year is another wash so the PP sucking is kind of advantageous. And maybe the PP is lacking cause the talent level on it isn't as good as other teams. That's probably the beste explanation

We’re 18th in PP percentage this year. Not spectacular but pretty average.

 

[The Real Timo]

If Molson cleans house now he might as well sell the team. There will be NO fans.

It really doesn't look like he cares about the fans. He's got new turtle necks to sell now...

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

We’re 18th in PP percentage this year. Not spectacular but pretty average.

To be honest context matters. The PP2 got a lot of those goals and even if they're 18th, the PP either scores or it's a complete momentum killer because of how inept it is. The middle ground pretty much isn't there. I would rather have a slightly worse PP that actually looks dangerous most of the time.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

To be honest context matters. The PP2 got a lot of those goals and even if they're 18th, the PP either scores or it's a complete momentum killer because of how inept it is. The middle ground pretty much isn't there. I would rather have a slightly worse PP that actually looks dangerous most of the time.

I’d never say it’s a great PP but… I also never expected it to be. We don’t really have the horses.

Were you expecting better?

 

[Strat]

When was the last time the Habs won against the Lightning?

 

[The Real Timo]

Maybe, just maybe, they were forced to have the current vets. Armia, Dvorak, Gallagher, Evans, Savard, Anderson, etc. All MB players that the current management hasn't either moved yet/ haven't been able to move yet. The only vets with their signature on it are Monahan and Pearson. Matheson too but that was a one for one trade essentially and I don't think anyone here would rather Petry right now

That's pretty much half your team. And the team is so disjointed that some players can't really thrive under these conditions. Young defencemen take a while before they're good defensively. Who knew. Hughes and Gorton have been in Montreal for less than 2 years, taking over the worst team in hockey. What are you expecting? Yes, they need to get better but don't pretend like every game has been them not putting in any effort. They're obviously outmatched and it shows.

We are not talking about being good defensively or offensively. We are talking about ability to execute the most basic hockey plays. Tape to tape pass. I swear pretty much every single time Habs gain possession of the puck in their own zone, they immediately lose. They barely every can get the puck out of their zone without some kind of an adventure. These guys are NHLers. Not good ones, but NHL'ers nonetheless. The basis to pass, skate and clear should be there. It's all coaching and lack of any kind of system or strategy around the game. It's likely not drilling any plays at practice and rather preaching some conceptual BS that never translates to anything tangible on the ice. Team needs to go back to whatever they team at bantom hockey.

While the coaches likely making the players feel better about their shitty play, they are not helping them because they are not preparing them and gradually improving them.

 

[le_sean]

Anderson needs to go. I’m sorry but a physical and in-your-face game like that and the best he can do is chirp Eyssimot (who is a foot shorter) when the refs are there? f*** off you fake tough guy.

 

[Habs]

3-4 more years of this. I'll be dead before we make the playoffs again.

If the drafting doesn’t kill you first

 

[Redux91]

Screw you Habs! You made me agree with Normand Flynn regarding how lost they look defensively. And now I have to go take a shower.

I know the feeling bud

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

We are not talking about being good defensively or offensively. We are talking about ability to execute the most basic hockey plays. Tape to tape pass. I swear pretty much every single time Habs gain possession of the puck in their own zone, they immediately lose. They barely every can get the puck out of their zone without some kind of an adventure. These guys are NHLers. Not good ones, but NHL'ers nonetheless. The basis to pass, skate and clear should be there. It's all coaching and lack of any kind of system or strategy around the game. It's likely not drilling any plays at practice and rather preaching some conceptual BS that never translates to anything tangible on the ice. Team needs to go back to whatever they team at bantom hockey.

While the coaches likely making the players feel better about their shitty play, they are not helping them because they are not preparing them and gradually improving them.

I still think it's a lack of talent and over thinking. The plays you're talking about are easily executed but instead of sump outs, a lot of the time they hesitate and scramble on the boards. The Habs need an offensive tactician cause the systems need help, I completely agree. Forward placement on breakouts is terrible. Most of the time, even when they accept a pass, they aren't in a good position to do anything but dump it further down the ice. The coaches should be held to account but I think it's mostly a player problem

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Anderson needs to go. I’m sorry but a physical and in-your-face game like that and the best he can do is chirp Eyssimot (who is a foot shorter) when the refs are there? f*** off you fake tough guy.

Tonight was the first time I noticed him in a positive way. Felt he was actually good tonight. Should’ve had a goal but he’s got absolutely no confidence right now.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We are not talking about being good defensively or offensively. We are talking about ability to execute the most basic hockey plays. Tape to tape pass. I swear pretty much every single time Habs gain possession of the puck in their own zone, they immediately lose. They barely every can get the puck out of their zone without some kind of an adventure. These guys are NHLers. Not good ones, but NHL'ers nonetheless. The basis to pass, skate and clear should be there. It's all coaching and lack of any kind of system or strategy around the game. It's likely not drilling any plays at practice and rather preaching some conceptual BS that never translates to anything tangible on the ice. Team needs to go back to whatever they team at bantom hockey.

While the coaches likely making the players feel better about their shitty play, they are not helping them because they are not preparing them and gradually improving them.

Most of these guys won’t even be with the team in a few years. Ghuele, CC, Caufield, Slaf, Barron, Dach (when he’s in the lineup) those are the guys that matter,

Hutson, Beck, Roy, RB etc… they’re not even with the team yet.

 

[Runner77]

Every game i watch i wonder what Burrows and Robidas do. We know Marty has poms poms and teaches philosophy.

 

[HabSgt]

You sound like my wife.

Morgan Freeman: "It was his wife."

WHAT A PLOT TWIST!

Tune in next game on HFHabs...

 

[HabSgt]

Maybe, just maybe, they were forced to have the current vets. Armia, Dvorak, Gallagher, Evans, Savard, Anderson, etc. All MB players that the current management hasn't either moved yet/ haven't been able to move yet. The only vets with their signature on it are Monahan and Pearson. Matheson too but that was a one for one trade essentially and I don't think anyone here would rather Petry right now

That's pretty much half your team. And the team is so disjointed that some players can't really thrive under these conditions. Young defencemen take a while before they're good defensively. Who knew. Hughes and Gorton have been in Montreal for less than 2 years, taking over the worst team in hockey. What are you expecting? Yes, they need to get better but don't pretend like every game has been them not putting in any effort. They're obviously outmatched and it shows.

Logical, sane, rational take.

GTFOH

 

[Kimota]

At least we can say that there's great offensive prospects coming in.

 

[larek]

Yes, normal. You are in for a couple of years of this.

Got a feeling that a few of these dmen will not be in Montreal in a few seaosns

We’re 18th in PP percentage this year. Not spectacular but pretty average.

That's as of 12 games
Let's see at game 40

 

[nilan30]

This game was far worse than just an ordinary Wow. It's was a ShamWow guy on the right..

You’re gonna love my nuts

 

[larek]

Logical, sane, rational take.

GTFOH

My prob is the salaries for some of these dunces

 

[Habs]

Tonight was the first time I noticed him in a positive way. Felt he was actually good tonight. Should’ve had a goal but he’s got absolutely no confidence right now.

Yeah I thought he was decent compared to the heaps of garbage out there.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

You forgot about the garbage fanbase.

... and garbage media.

 

[montreal]

Garbage team + Garbage coaching staff + Garbage management + garbage ownership = garbage organization. Enough is enough....../

No offense but reading this post made me think of, remember that time posters tried to tell the board that Hab fans can withstand a rebuild. Boy were they wrong.

 

[Kimota]

Since Habs clearly are going nowhere, I think another complete clean house is in order. Everyone. Coaches. Mngt. It isn't going in the right direction. These coaches are NOT teaching these kids anything. They are NOT able to get vets to put any kind of effort. They are not setting any good examples and instilling hard work habits.

Management is just continuing what previous managaement did - passing on any kind of talent that comes along.

There will be zero negative impact if Habs completely clean house now. It is beyond frustrating to watch whatever that team is.

If a new school coach like MSL has not worked, I say bring in a meat and potato coach to coach the team. Hartley would be fine. There are things guys have learned with trials by errors for decades of coaching that new coaches like Marty don't know when the goings gets tough.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That's as of 12 games
Let's see at game 40

I think we’ll drop.

Again though, we are a roster with below average talent. Why would you expect above average results?

 

[The Real Timo]

Glad MSL found a scapegoat

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/07/je-nai-pas-aime-la-punition-a-xhekaj--martin-st-louis

On n’aime pas ton coaching Marty.

If a new school coach like MSL has not worked, I say bring in a meat and potato coach to coach the team. Hartley would be fine. There are things guys have learned with trials by errors for decades of coaching that new coaches like Marty don't know when the goings gets tough.

I think team needs that to a certain degree. MSL can assist and be the good cop.