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habsterr

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This is the whole problem with this team, it lacks scoring and offense, and then you go and put the equivalent of Drouin (a 30 point player) on the top line,

and people wonder why it's a last place team?

That is insanity
We're going to suck and be bottom 5 anyways, might as well and develop the youngsters with lots of ice time. Personally, I see Newhook growing in to a top 6 winger.
 

That Habs Fan

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This is the whole problem with this team, it lacks scoring and offense, and then you go and put the equivalent of Drouin (a 30 point player) on the top line,

and people wonder why it's a last place team?

That is insanity
You do realize Newhook is 22?

anyway, here's what I would do:

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
Monahan-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Pezzetta
Armia

Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Savard
Xhekaj-Harris
Kovacevic

Montembault
Allen

Trade Edmundson
Trade or buy out Hoffman

I'm not saying we're not going to be near the bottom of the league again, but our top 9 forwards are underrated, and our top 6 D has the right make-up to be a long-term force should they find chemistry. Good mix of size (courtesy Slaf/Dach/Andy) and talent in that top 6 up front.

Our defence will also be amazing (and borderline overpopulated) in a few years once Reinbacher, Hutson and Mailloux join (that's not to mention Engstrom).
 
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Habs Halifax

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This is the whole problem with this team, it lacks scoring and offense, and then you go and put the equivalent of Drouin (a 30 point player) on the top line,

and people wonder why it's a last place team?

That is insanity

It's a rebuild process. FYI, it's 2023 heading into 23/24, not 2021 heading into 21/22. Habs rookies lead the league in points generated last season bud. Plus we got a lot more coming.
 

Habs Halifax

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You do realize Newhook is 22?

anyway, here's what I would do:

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
Monahan-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Pezzetta
Armia

Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Savard
Xhekaj-Harris
Kovacevic

Montembault
Allen

Trade Edmundson
Trade or buy out Hoffman

I'm not saying we're not going to be near the bottom of the league again, but our top 9 is underrated, and our top 6 has the right make-up to be a long-term force should they find chemistry. Good mix of size (courtesy Slaf/Dach/Andy) and talent in that top 6. Our defence will also be amazing in a few years once Hutson and Reinbacher join.

Try to trade Eddy or Hoffman but buy out? No thanks. We don't need cap space. Buying out players is when you need cap space.

Yeah, we are cluttered up front and on D and we will be making more trades. If we are stuck with Hoffman, just sit him as the extra forward and have a guy like Farrell and Heineman play full time in Laval. Hoffman, Pezzetta, Evans are good ones to have as extra forwards sitting. Lets call that plan C
 
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Habs Halifax

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Lol, that is only because most of the team is rookies,

If you have the most rookies playing games, then it would make sense to have the most rookie points, duh

Yeah, and someone like you would use it against them if the rookies didn't generate any points. Can't win with the negative ones I guess.
 

Colezuki

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Lol, that is only because most of the team is rookies,

If you have the most rookies playing games, then it would make sense to have the most rookie points, duh

This is the whole problem with this team, it lacks scoring and offense, and then you go and put the equivalent of Drouin (a 30 point player) on the top line,

and people wonder why it's a last place team?

That is insanity

Yeah 22 yr olds never improve your right, we should give up on him just like all the other teams gave up on Marchessault, Karlsson, stephenson, Marchand, Bertuzzi

Jesus man give your head a shake
 
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That Habs Fan

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Try to trade Eddy or Hoffman but buy out? No thanks. We don't need cap space. Buying out players is when you need cap space.

Yeah, we are cluttered up front and on D and we will be making more trades. If we are stuck with Hoffman, just sit him as the extra forward and have a guy like Farrell and Heineman play full time in Laval. Hoffman, Pezzetta, Evans are good ones to have as extra forwards sitting. Lets call that plan C

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote buy out. Not enough coffee yet.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Yeah I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote buy out. Not enough coffee yet.

No worries. We all want Hoffman, Dvorak, Armia, Eddy off loaded sooner rather than later but we have cap space to manage it without it hurting us. We let Drouin ride it out till he expires and maybe we have to do that with Hoffman.

Are they going to block younger guys? Some say yes but I think we can manage that well. If they are not performing well enough to move them in trades where we don't have to add an asset to do it, let them sit and watch games. We don't owe them anything
 

ReimanSum1908

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Don't you guys see any problem here?

You guys are putting a player on the first line/top line that could barely even make the lineup as a fourth liner in Colorado,

And people wonder why this team stinks?

Newhook is not, and never will be a top 6 player
Retreats into delusional, overly-enthusiastic fantasy are some of the only ways by which to cope with continued managerial incompetence. Surely Newhook's lack of success on a stacked, offensively oriented team, surrounded by exceptional talent, means that he'll exploid on the anemic Canadiens.
 
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Colezuki

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Retreats into delusional, overly-enthusiastic fantasy are some of the only ways by which to cope with continued managerial incompetence. Surely Newhook's lack of success on a stacked, offensively oriented team, surrounded by exceptional talent, means that he'll exploid on the anemic Canadiens.
Retreats into cyncism, to show how smart you are illustrates an arrogance. He's 22 and he can still improve
 
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Colezuki

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As far as a lineup, I'm gonna suggest it looks a little different this year at forward

Newhook - Suzuki - Anderson
Caufield - Dach - Monahan
Gallagher - Dvorak - Armia
Hoffman - Evans - Pezz

Weirdly I think that Newhook will suit Suzuki more then Caufield, they play more north south and grinding hockey and this gives Caufield 2 passers and 2 guys to make space, also gives Dach moneyhands to help on FO. Bottom 6 is still a disaster until Hoffman leaves and armia gets his head out of his ass.

Defense im not even going to try and sort out
 
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Habs Halifax

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More moves will come but lets say we don't (I reserve right to change this later).

* Farrell and Heineman in Laval to play big minutes.
* Pezzetta, Wideman, Pitlick clear waivers and head to Laval. Laval can use their experience.
* I expect changes but we really don't have to get aggressive to move out guys if other teams wants us to pay an asset to move them kind of thing.

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Sterling Archer

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Caufield Suzuki Newhook
Slaf Dach Anderson
Monahan Dvo Gally
Pezzetta Evans Armia
Ylonen

Matheson Barron
Guhle Savard
Xhekaj Kovy
Harris

Monty
Allen
 
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Takeru

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Sounds bleak ngl

4th straight year with a bottom of the barrel PP? Nothing changed. Oh yea Drouin will be replaced by Newhook for the last 25 seconds of PP2.



*Shane Wright tank*



It's the on ice product mate.

Fingers crossed at least one guy has a breakout and healthy season.

Caufield is a prime candidate, though I'm still hoping Dach starts his Tage Thompson path and breaks 60pts this season.
 

Habricot

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As far as a lineup, I'm gonna suggest it looks a little different this year at forward

Newhook - Suzuki - Anderson
Caufield - Dach - Monahan
Gallagher - Dvorak - Armia
Hoffman - Evans - Pezz

Weirdly I think that Newhook will suit Suzuki more then Caufield, they play more north south and grinding hockey and this gives Caufield 2 passers and 2 guys to make space, also gives Dach moneyhands to help on FO. Bottom 6 is still a disaster until Hoffman leaves and armia gets his head out of his ass.

Defense im not even going to try and sort out
Bold move to put Slaf in the AHL.
 

Kudo Shinichi

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We have too many forwards. If we don't trade any, both Farrell and Heineman will have to start in the ahl.

Caufield - Suzuki - Monahan
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson
Ylonen - Evans - Gallagher
Armia, Hoffman, Pezz
 

Habricot

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Fingers crossed at least one guy has a breakout and healthy season.

Caufield is a prime candidate, though I'm still hoping Dach starts his Tage Thompson path and breaks 60pts this season.
I am fully counting on that..
Caufield with 30+ goals
Suzuki reaches 70pts
Dach reaches 60pts
Newhook reaches 45pts
Slaf reaches 35pts
That would be progression.. and I am confident we will be there. I expect we will have a season similar or better to Detroit last year and get another high pick.
 

Takeru

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We have too many forwards. If we don't trade any, both Farrell and Heineman will have to start in the ahl.

Caufield - Suzuki - Monahan
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson
Ylonen - Evans - Gallagher
Armia, Hoffman, Pezz
It wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily for those two to start in the AHL and earn a callup at some point in the season imo.
I am fully counting on that..
Caufield with 30+ goals
Suzuki reaches 70pts
Dach reaches 60pts
Newhook reaches 45pts
Slaf reaches 35pts
That would be progression.. and I am confident we will be there. I expect we will have a season similar or better to Detroit last year and get another high pick.
This season should be a turning point in evaluating what we'll have to work with going forward.
If those are the guys we're going to hinge our bet on, those should be the expected progressions for this year.
Otherwise, parts of the strategy will have to be reconsidered and moves made accordingly.
 

Kudo Shinichi

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Timeline for d-group:

This season:
Guhle - Matheson
Xhekaj - Barron
Harris - Savard

24-25:
Guhle - Matheson
Xhekaj - Barron
Hutson - Reinbacher

25-26:
Guhle - Barron
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux

26-27:
Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron
Engstrom
 

ericd

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Caufield - Suzuki - Dach

Harvey-Pinard - Newhook - Gallagher

Hoffman - Monahan - Anderson

Dvorak - Evans



Matheson - Savard

Harris - Kovacevic

Guhle - Barron

Xhekaj




Allen

Montembeault
 
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Caufield - Suzuki - Dach

Harvey-Pinard - Newhook - Ylönen

Anderson - Monahan - Gallagher

Slafkovský - Evans - Armia

Dvorak



Matheson - Savard

Harris - Kovacevic

Guhle - Barron

Edmundson - Xhekaj



Montembeault

Primeau
Slafkovsky on the 4th line? Might as well send him to Laval instead.
 

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