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23 man roster with around $8.7M in cap space. I think Wideman plays AHL this year and he would clear waivers. Looks like Laval needs a RD.

I also think we are going to move Hoffman and Pezzetta to waivers before the season starts to get a 22 man roster (with Price on the roster and his cap)... This will allow us to place Price on LTIR after the season starts. Big deal and we can really be in position to help cap hell teams during the season if there is incentive.

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Laval looks interesting:
Farrell / Andersson / Roy
Heineman / Maillet / Mesar
Mysak / Simoneau / Ylonen
Condotta / Stephens / Pitlick
Kidney

Beaudin / Mailloux
Struble / Wideman
Norlinder / Keeper

Dobes
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Habs Halifax

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Watch us draft another D next draft. We have better chance of wiining the lotto max than having a 100pts player in Montreal.

100 pts forward would be nice but what if we have a top 9 that has 60-80 pts potential in several areas and we are able to keep the core in tack in the salary cap? And we become a very difficult team to beat in the playoffs?

A strong top 9 with two good PP units with a very good D/goaltending can be a very good contender. Leafs and Oilers have done nothing with their 100 pts forwards.

Yup, I would have drafted Michkov but I'm not going to cry or complain about it. I totally see what they are doing and all that matters right now is focusing on development with what we have. If 50% or more of them reach their ceiling, we will have a great roster.
 
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23 man roster with around $8.7M in cap space. I think Wideman plays AHL this year and he would clear waivers. Looks like Laval needs a RD.

I also think we are going to move Hoffman and Pezzetta to waivers before the season starts to get a 22 man roster (with Price on the roster and his cap)... This will allow us to place Price on LTIR after the season starts. Big deal and we can really be in position to help cap hell teams during the season if there is incentive.

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Laval looks interesting:
Farrell / Andersson / Roy
Heineman / Maillet / Mesar
Mysak / Simoneau / Ylonen
Condotta / Stephens / Pitlick
Kidney

Beaudin / Mailloux
Struble / Wideman
Norlinder / Keeper

Dobes
Primeau
I hope you're right:crossfing
 
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I hope you're right:crossfing

I'm sure we will still try to move Hoffman out but at this point, I don't see too much negatives if he stays. Lots of guys in Laval learning with each other and also growing/maturing with each other.

I have no problem with Hoffman riding it out like Drouin did last year. Would be nice to not rip away from Laval during the season too. I'm sure there will be injuries so a few of them will get some NHL games as the season moves along but hopefully, it's 1 at a time here and there.

Laval roster needs more stability IMO.

Hoffman / Dvorak / Armia: The $12M 4th line. Yup... deal with it
 
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I'm sure we will still try to move Hoffman out but at this point, I don't see too much negatives if he stays. Lots of guys in Laval learning with each other and also growing/maturing with each other.

I have no problem with Hoffman riding it out like Drouin did last year. Would be nice to not rip away from Laval during the season too. I'm sure there will be injuries so a few of them will get some NHL games as the season moves along but hopefully, it's 1 at a time here and there.

Laval roster needs more stability IMO.
It's early still but so many bodies and I'm curious what the management intends to do. Will they ice the best players or showcase some?
 

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Definitely need to trade some bodies. By next year, all of Mailloux, Hutson and Reinbacher should be ready, and we’ll already have a full D corps. Gonna be interesting.

Up front there will be less hands knocking on the door, but a bunch of useless vets we won’t be able to get rid of. Roy and Heineman probably the two guys making a real push.
 

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It's early still but so many bodies and I'm curious what the management intends to do. Will they ice the best players or showcase some?

I don't think the showcase narrative works as much as we would like it too. Other teams know who Dvorak, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher are. Cap space is also a huge issue for pretty much 75% of the teams in the NHL. Very difficult to move guys with contracts without taking one back or paying a price to do it.

I'm fine with the roster I posted. Laval looks interesting to me. I don't consider this blocking guys like Farrell or Heineman. If they produce in pre season and earn a spot (Roy and Mesar as well), then we manage it.

I hear Dvorak might not be ready to start the season. That's one open spot right there.

I have no problem with a Hoffman / Dvorak / Armia 4th line. Rather the kids play in Laval vs 4th line in the NHL.
 
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I don't think the showcase narrative works as much as we would like it too. Other teams know who Dvorak, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher are. Cap space is also a huge issue for pretty much 75% of the teams in the NHL. Very difficult to move guys with contracts without taking one back or paying a price to do it.

I'm fine with the roster I posted. Laval looks interesting to me. I don't consider this blocking guys like Farrell or Heineman. If they produce in pre season and earn a spot (Roy and Mesar as well), then we manage it.

I hear Dvorak might not be ready to start the season. That's one open spot right there.

I have no problem with a Hoffman / Dvorak / Armia 4th line. Rather the kids play in Laval vs 4th line in the NHL.
That 4th line doesn't look too shabby,costly.but not shabby. I don't really have any issues aside from actually seeing what some of the touted players can do in the NHL in the right role,can they actually be a net positive or not. But Gorton and Hughes have yet to find the key to unshackle the handcuffs Bergy left them with.
 

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That 4th line doesn't look too shabby,costly.but not shabby. I don't really have any issues aside from actually seeing what some of the touted players can do in the NHL in the right role,can they actually be a net positive or not. But Gorton and Hughes have yet to find the key to unshackle the handcuffs Bergy left them with.

Of course I would like to have a few open spots for Farrell, Heineman, Roy, Mesar but having them all in Laval and growing/maturing together is not a bad situation. They are there to use in case of injuries and if one or a few of them perform, we can easily call them up.

We owe nothing to Dvorak, Armia, Hoffman. They can either be on the 4th line or two of them are the 13/14th forwards.

More answers will come in training camp/preseason games. Let them force our hand
 
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Watch us draft another D next draft. We have better chance of wiining the lotto max than having a 100pts player in Montreal.
Good thing is the eternal « depressive-voyant » have another year to enjoy it and share

Definitely need to trade some bodies. By next year, all of Mailloux, Hutson and Reinbacher should be ready, and we’ll already have a full D corps. Gonna be interesting.

Up front there will be less hands knocking on the door, but a bunch of useless vets we won’t be able to get rid of. Roy and Heineman probably the two guys making a real push.
Been a long time players with any promise have had to fight vets for spots, things are looking way up.
 

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I don't think the showcase narrative works as much as we would like it too. Other teams know who Dvorak, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher are. Cap space is also a huge issue for pretty much 75% of the teams in the NHL. Very difficult to move guys with contracts without taking one back or paying a price to do it.

I'm fine with the roster I posted. Laval looks interesting to me. I don't consider this blocking guys like Farrell or Heineman. If they produce in pre season and earn a spot (Roy and Mesar as well), then we manage it.

I hear Dvorak might not be ready to start the season. That's one open spot right there.

I have no problem with a Hoffman / Dvorak / Armia 4th line. Rather the kids play in Laval vs 4th line in the NHL.
I very much agree with this. The kids should all play together for the entire year in Laval and build some chemistry. Roy, Slaffy, Heineman, Mesar etc.... Put them in the A and let them play as much as possible.
 
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I very much agree with this. The kids should all play together for the entire year in Laval and build some chemistry. Roy, Slaffy, Heineman, Mesar etc.... Put them in the A and let them play as much as possible.

I get it. Most of us would like to have more open spots but then we also say... we have to stop rushing guys. Which is it boys and girls?

I think we have more options than we realize today.
 
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I get it. Most of us would like to have more open spots but then we also say... we have to stop rushing guys. Which is it boys and girls?

I think we have more options than we realize today.
Imo, the team is actually in a decent spot where we actually have some depth that allows us to be patient and put all the young players in Laval. We know guys like Armia, Hoffman et al are nothing players but we have them under contract, they are very tough to move so why not ride out another year while our kids gain so much experience playing together. If one wins out a spot or maybe we are able to move someone, fine, but no need to rush anything at this point in the rebuild.
 
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Imo, the team is actually in a decent spot where we actually have some depth that allows us to be patient and put all the young players in Laval. We know guys like Armia, Hoffman et al are nothing players but we have them under contract, they are very tough to move so why not ride out another year while our kids gain so much experience playing together. If one wins out a spot or maybe we are able to move someone, fine, but no need to rush anything at this point in the rebuild.

It's going to be an interesting year. Our youth is one year older and do we have as many injuries this time? We will see.

Looking forward to what the Kids do in Laval and how Dach, Slaf, Newhook, RHP, Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Monty do in the NHL. Also a full season from Caufield.

Who cares about Hoffman, Dvorak, Armia, Gallagher. They are not holding us back and I don't think the younger players in the room don't like having them around.
 

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Hope RHP not playing first line minutes.
Well he is def not a first liner but you want balanced line and chemistry, he showed he had chemistry with Suzuki last year, I see him a Burrow lite player with Suzuki Caufield, will go in the corner and in front of the net, bring some speed also
 

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23 man roster with around $8.7M in cap space. I think Wideman plays AHL this year and he would clear waivers. Looks like Laval needs a RD.

I also think we are going to move Hoffman and Pezzetta to waivers before the season starts to get a 22 man roster (with Price on the roster and his cap)... This will allow us to place Price on LTIR after the season starts. Big deal and we can really be in position to help cap hell teams during the season if there is incentive.

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Laval looks interesting:
Farrell / Andersson / Roy
Heineman / Maillet / Mesar
Mysak / Simoneau / Ylonen
Condotta / Stephens / Pitlick
Kidney

Beaudin / Mailloux
Struble / Wideman
Norlinder / Keeper

Dobes
Primeau
In Laval, you forgot Trudeau and Bisson-Paquette on D. And there is strong possibilities they keep Reinbacher. and or Parker-Jones.. Up front Bourque, Gignac, Abandonnato are still in the cards. I don't think Mesar, Kidney are AHL level yet.
 
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In Laval, you forgot Trudeau and Bisson-Paquette on D. And there is strong possibilities they keep Reinbacher. and or Parker-Jones.. Up front Bourque, Gignac, Abandonnato are still in the cards. I don't think Mesar, Kidney are AHL level yet.

Yeah, I did the Laval roster quickly.

Not sure with Kidney but I do think Mesar plays in Laval this season. I hope Kidney doesn't turn into a Hillis type. Personally, I think he has a long development road once he plays with men. At least Mesar has the skating to create some space for himself. Kidney is going to get smothered and has to bulk up to play the same style he played in Junior.

I think the Andersson signing for Laval was a great move!
 

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$3.75M tied up on Alzner, Eddy, and performance bonuses carried forward last year. Still got $8M+ in cap space.

Wondering if the strategy is to have Price on LTIR after the season starts so we can accumulate more cap space as the season moves along and also not be forced to carry forward a potential of $4.2M this next season. I think $3.5M of that is with Slaf alone.
 

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Caufield - Suzuki - Newhook
Slaf - Monahan - Dach
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson
Pezzetta - Evans - Gally
Heinemen, Armia, Hoffman


Matheson - Barron (top RHD is a very weak spot)
Guhle - Savard
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Harris - Kovacevic
 
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