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rypper
21-12-05 it's finally over.
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Jerry the great
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his value as a prospect has declined and there are massive red flags with this player. Can't crack CBJ's (desperate for RHD) roster in his D+3 season and now the rumours of him being available are starting to swirl. He should be in the AHL and the fact he isn't is another red flag.
I would absolutely not put Willander on the table for Jiricek.
Reverend Mayhem
Tell me all your thoughts on God
Could just be my first impression of him in blue and green was a suicide pass to Boeser. It’s not his production I don’t like, I know we didn’t sign him for that reason.
Reverend Mayhem
Tell me all your thoughts on God
Bold this and underline it. We're 2nd in the division with essentially 2 star players missing from the entire season (40, 35) and an integral piece (81).
I see some holes on this roster, but honestly, both Edmonton and Florida had holes as well. The perfect team just doesn't exist at the moment. The injuries to the Americans I find to be the most concerning right now.
To add to your last post, I read something somewhere that said there is no ethical consumption in capitalist society. I'm more or less inclined to agree.
kanucks25
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Exactly.
If we think we suck, imagine how the other 22 teams below us must feel.
Nobody thought we were a top-5 contender type team, and some regression was expected by most as well. So we kind of are where we should be.
The good thing is that there are paths to improvement both internally and externally.
And this is coming from someone who thinks we've been poorer than the average fan on a game-by-game basis.
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You are too much in a way I love.
The Stillman trade is a WTF trade. Buffalo actually targeted Stillman. I recall Sabres fans saying we were wrong about Stillman after watching him play a few games. Don’t know what happened to him but he hasn’t seen NHL action since.
On the other hand, maybe Bloom isn’t an asset. Sabres fans were high on him but in reality he was the second last pick in the 3rd round signed to an ELC whose development had stalled. I liked a Bloom at the time of the trade as well but in hindsight he’s probably a guy Allvin chooses not to sign if he had a choice. Then again, it seems that management was wrong about where Bloom’s game was at given his development path.
Yes the biggest problem with Jiricek is that he stinks (at least right now) and we need players that don’t stink right now. He’s only discussed because of draft pedigree.
Diamonddog01
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I think the right side is set after this season, I could maybe see the team to try to pick up a top 4 RD deadline rental that wouldn't be in the team's long term plans. Next year we are probably looking at:
Hughes - Hronek
LD - Myers / Willander
Soucy - Myers / Willander
IMO the priority remains a top 4 LHD that is either under contract or that we can re-sign at a reasonable rate who will either be able to form a pairing with Hronek or Willander at some point. What somewhat complicates things is Myers complete inability to play with Hughes as that would open up options for next year. When Willander was drafted many thought he could be the perfect partner for Hughes but that's a few years away.
Hughes - Hronek
LD - Myers / Willander
Soucy - Myers / Willander
IMO the priority remains a top 4 LHD that is either under contract or that we can re-sign at a reasonable rate who will either be able to form a pairing with Hronek or Willander at some point. What somewhat complicates things is Myers complete inability to play with Hughes as that would open up options for next year. When Willander was drafted many thought he could be the perfect partner for Hughes but that's a few years away.
Nick Lang
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People sleeping on Debrusk. He's a gritty, streaky, scorer and playing that way.
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
I think DeBrusk has basically performed exactly in line with his contract.
If we're giving grades to the off-season acquisitions, I'd go:
Sherwood, Lankinen: A+
Brannstrom: A
Heinen: B
DeBrusk, Sprong: C
Desharnais: C-
Forbort: D
Desharnais/Forbort were still low-risk and should be easy to move off of.
If we're giving grades to the off-season acquisitions, I'd go:
Sherwood, Lankinen: A+
Brannstrom: A
Heinen: B
DeBrusk, Sprong: C
Desharnais: C-
Forbort: D
Desharnais/Forbort were still low-risk and should be easy to move off of.
the thing that keeps me warm at night is I know Allvin will make a trade for a defenseman we need, it’s not if it’s when and we have usually been the team that sets the market. Too many teams are deciding where they are at so the trades will come later, hopefully Rasmus Anderson makes it public he wants out like Big Z said
I think Myers can hold down the 4th spot we really need a #3
Deharnais and Brannstrom seem fine as a 3rd pair
I have zero read on Forbort
I think Myers can hold down the 4th spot we really need a #3
Deharnais and Brannstrom seem fine as a 3rd pair
I have zero read on Forbort
I’d put Desharnais lower than Forbort.
Play has been similarly poor, but Forbort has obviously been going through a tough period of his life so I’m willing to reserve judgement.
I think getting rid of Stillman and getting anything back is already a win. But yeah, the point is, GMs see things differently than we do, it’s been proven over and over.
Ernie
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I know the team is still on pace for 100 points, but there has been a lot of luck there, and they've been playing against weak competition. They are in serious jeopardy of missing the playoffs if they continue the way they have.
The team desperately needs to try something different on defence. Lots of focus has been on Myers, but Soucy has been even worse. It's time for Tocchet to get over his obsession with big defencemen and move Brannstrom up to the 2nd pairing. I get that it's the system Tocchet likes, but unlike last season the team does not have the personnel right now to play that way.
It would also be worth considering bringing up Friedman and demoting Juulsen. Friedman has played some good minutes for the team in the past. The "Desharnais project" is looking like an abject failure and the Canucks need to cut bait before it sinks the season.
The team desperately needs to try something different on defence. Lots of focus has been on Myers, but Soucy has been even worse. It's time for Tocchet to get over his obsession with big defencemen and move Brannstrom up to the 2nd pairing. I get that it's the system Tocchet likes, but unlike last season the team does not have the personnel right now to play that way.
It would also be worth considering bringing up Friedman and demoting Juulsen. Friedman has played some good minutes for the team in the past. The "Desharnais project" is looking like an abject failure and the Canucks need to cut bait before it sinks the season.
And on Desharnais: he’s been horrible. And I know he can and may improve, and hopefully will, but this isn’t a team at the stage where we should be targeting projects that may or may not be NHL calibre, and paying them $2 million or year or whatever we are paying.
Still lots of time but as of now looks like a major pro scouting miss.
Still lots of time but as of now looks like a major pro scouting miss.
Ernie
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At this point they can't afford to keep playing him. They need to figure out how to stop the leaks, and taking the leakiest player out of the lineup is the easiest fix. It's getting harder and harder to see how this player belongs in the NHL. Continuing to play him because of his salary is just sunk cost fallacy.
Ya, if we don’t have depth thats better than what Desharnais is currently providing, then that’s almost a bigger indictment than the actual Desharnais signing.
