GDT: Gold Medal Game • Jan. 5 • Canada vs. Russia • Part V (Mod warning in OP)
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It was an immature thing to do but one has to realize that it was an impulsive action in a very emotional situation.
Doesn't excuse the stupidity of the act but the player certainly shouldn't be tarred and feathered for it.
Is it possible it could have caused serious injury to someone? Of course and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fool.
I find it comical that there are some on here suggesting the cheering fans are somehow to blame for his emotional outburst.
Fans are there to cheer, something fans at the ACC are not used to
Years ago a young child was killed after getting hit by a puck and leagues decided to put up netting to prevent it happening again. It was a freak accident, but the result was increased safety.
Prior to that pucks had entered the stands many times without major incident. Chances of someone getting killed was remote, but it did happen, sadly.
Chances of serious injury or worse of a hockey stick being thrown into the stands and striking a spectator are remote, but it could happen.
Not sure what I would do if I was in charge but criminal charges against the player is one I would not pursue.
A possible suspension is the route I would go.
Doesn't excuse the stupidity of the act but the player certainly shouldn't be tarred and feathered for it.
Is it possible it could have caused serious injury to someone? Of course and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fool.
I find it comical that there are some on here suggesting the cheering fans are somehow to blame for his emotional outburst.
Fans are there to cheer, something fans at the ACC are not used to
Years ago a young child was killed after getting hit by a puck and leagues decided to put up netting to prevent it happening again. It was a freak accident, but the result was increased safety.
Prior to that pucks had entered the stands many times without major incident. Chances of someone getting killed was remote, but it did happen, sadly.
Chances of serious injury or worse of a hockey stick being thrown into the stands and striking a spectator are remote, but it could happen.
Not sure what I would do if I was in charge but criminal charges against the player is one I would not pursue.
A possible suspension is the route I would go.
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I love the internet, you don't like what someone tells you, just call BS on it.
My story is 100% true btw, but please continue to believe otherwise
I believe your story is true. I also believe you are exaggerating the extent of your injury. You were 9 years old, and your parents were probably terrified. That's what you remember.
The reality of it is, you were never in any serious danger.
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Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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It was an immature thing to do but one has to realize that it was an impulsive action in a very emotional situation.
Doesn't excuse the stupidity of the act but the player certainly shouldn't be tarred and feathered for it.
Is it possible it could have caused serious injury to someone? Of course and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fool.
I find it comical that there are some on here suggesting the cheering fans are somehow to blame for his emotional outburst.
Fans are there to cheer, something fans at the ACC are not used to
Years ago a young child was killed after getting hit by a puck and leagues decided to put up netting to prevent it happening again. It was a freak accident, but the result was increased safety.
Prior to that pucks had entered the stands many times without major incident. Chances of someone getting killed was remote, but it did happen, sadly.
Chances of serious injury or worse of a hockey stick being thrown into the stands and striking a spectator are remote, but it could happen.
Not sure what I would do if I was in charge but criminal charges against the player is one I would not pursue.
A possible suspension is the route I would go.
Don't tell stories that are true. People who don't like it will just pretend it's impossible, and tell you you're full of crap
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Great effort by the Russians, I didn't even expect them to get as far as the gold medal game, and they definitely had the means to win it all. Canada won, a logical outcome considering Canda's talent pool. I said it before and I will say it again : Canada not winning gold at this level is an anomaly, missing NHL players or not.
I hope no one was hurt in the incident. However, I would like Canadian fans not to generalize and conclude things about 'Russians' based on the behaviour of one Russian hockey player. If you knew things about Russia or Russian culture, you would not speak so negatively about it.
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A flying puck is way more dangerous than a flying stick because they travel at much higher speeds and the impacts they cause are more localized. They actually have the capability to produce a depressed skull fracture which can cause brain damage.
There just simply isn't enough kinetic energy in a flying hockey stick to do that. If someone were to swing a hockey stick at you, that's a way different story.
And just to clarify, I am not condoning the act of throwing your stick into the crowd. Obviously that's reckless and stupid. Even if it's not a life threatening risk, it can still cause injury which is best prevented.
There just simply isn't enough kinetic energy in a flying hockey stick to do that. If someone were to swing a hockey stick at you, that's a way different story.
And just to clarify, I am not condoning the act of throwing your stick into the crowd. Obviously that's reckless and stupid. Even if it's not a life threatening risk, it can still cause injury which is best prevented.
Don't tell stories that are true. People who don't like it will just pretend it's impossible, and tell you you're full of crap
I believe your story.
And I think what the Russian player did was irresponsible and could have seriously injured someone.
But I was a teenager once too. I did thinks that were irresponsible and could have hurt some one.
I'm just a little more forgiving when it comes to people doing stupid things.
Fine him or suspend him if they think that's appropriate but don't pretend like only one country does irresponsible things. This was the act of one player who just happened to be Russian. Could have been from any team.
Heck! The bloody Swedes invented Ikea furniture just to frustrate the hell out of the rest of the world who has to try to read the instructions!
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Don't tell stories that are true. People who don't like it will just pretend it's impossible, and tell you you're full of crap
Can you blame me for not immediately taking the word of someone posting unsubstantiated stories on the internet?
The least you could do is provide some evidence or background information. As it is, I could easily just say I had a had a skull fracture when I was 9 and the doctor told me there was nothing to worry about.
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I believe your story.
And I think what the Russian player did was irresponsible and could have seriously injured someone.
But I was a teenager once too. I did thinks that were irresponsible and could have hurt some one.
I'm just a little more forgiving when it comes to people doing stupid things.
Fine him or suspend him if they think that's appropriate but don't pretend like only one country does irresponsible things. This was the act of one player who just happened to be Russian. Could have been from any team.
Heck! The bloody Swedes invented Ikea furniture just to frustrate the hell out of the rest of the world who has to try to read the instructions!
When have I ever said that 1 country does irresponsible things? Literally the only Russian I have said anything about in this thread today is Gavrikov.
Maybe I'm in favour of punishment too much because I know what can happen, but dangerous acts deserve consequences. Sure criminal charges might be too far, but it was a criminal act, if the fan wanted to charge him he could, that's all up to the fan really, and it won't happen. But he certainly deserves at least a 1 game IIHF suspension. That's all I'm really saying. Nothing about any other Russians, no stereotyping, just punishment in the form of a suspension for Gavrikov, otherwise the next time someone thinks about throwing a stick in anger Gavrikov getting a suspension or fine might pop into his head first.
Anyway, I'm realizing right now that politics have successfully crept into hockey in a very serious manner once again, and that it's not about hockey anymore, but about which country is stronger, etc. This is the wrong direction to take, so I'm steering away from this.
We can only coexist well if we live in peace. So on this note, I'm out of this. Gavrikov was wrong, but so are those who think they can generalize things about an entire population based on his behaviour alone.
We can only coexist well if we live in peace. So on this note, I'm out of this. Gavrikov was wrong, but so are those who think they can generalize things about an entire population based on his behaviour alone.
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My earlier response was to another poster who tried to label the Russian team and people by the actions of this one player.
Russian hockey has fallen so far since the fall of the Iron Curtain morally and in terms of a team-mentality.
How many times yesterday did we see a russian player try and dangle his way into the Canadian slot 1-on-3 in the dying embers of that game?
The stupid celebrating when they scored the 2-1 goal, and then the player who supposedly chucked his stick into the stands at fans upon the final buzzer...
Hard for me to picture hockey greats like Yakushev and Vlady Tretiak condoning such activities.
Russia learned 1 big thing from 72 series
@ history remembers only a winners but forgot their way to win@
everyone forget the way, dirt and animality of winners
soviet system make only skilled oriented teams but without morality
you can be punished very hardly (you can be jailed) for fights on ice in USSR. So they cant be ready for dirt level of NHL (clarke and etc)
so now it is new way with morality oriented rookies. There are less hockey players less ice boxes ,less teachers than in USSR but new generations have big morality and will to win/
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I still think what Yudin did was just embarrassing for himself and his country. What an absolute assclown and then to turn around and lose the game. He should be ashamed of himself
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Was thinking this, or even a tossing the stick up in the air out of frustration/giving up after the whistle that ended up going over the boards could be partially excused. Watching the video, he definitely whips his stick hard over the glass, and I can see why people have problems with it.
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He whipped that stick into the crowd. It wasn't as a gift. He was aiming to hurt someone.
forget about it - theese are kids , dont be so serious for it. He did not kill or injured somebody , he just try to make angry opponent. Angry team makes mistakes like in 2-3 в period
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I think people tend to forget that most of us are only Canadians because of who our parents happened to be. We could all have been born somewhere completely different. I am proud/lucky to live in a country as great as Canada but that doesn't make me any better of a person than I would have been if I was born somewhere else.
Stop pretending we're better than other people just because of what our passport says.
Stop pretending we're better than other people just because of what our passport says.
There are many same like y said pople in Russia. But they much behave dirtier than Canadian fans after our wins.
Canadian crowds are *****cats compared to what goes on in soccer stadiums across Europe. Watched the Croatia Italy Euro qualifier and the Croatian fans had the stadium ablaze !!
So many posts last night, couldn't keep up.
Just wanted to say great game and congrats to Canada!
I got to attend my first WJC game ever (Denmark v Switzerland) and had such an incredible time. We drove up from Baltimore just to attend the game and it was such a party in the ACC, can't wait until it comes around to Canada again, will definitely go again.
Just wanted to say great game and congrats to Canada!
I got to attend my first WJC game ever (Denmark v Switzerland) and had such an incredible time. We drove up from Baltimore just to attend the game and it was such a party in the ACC, can't wait until it comes around to Canada again, will definitely go again.
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