GDT: Gold Medal Game • Jan. 5 • Canada vs. Russia • Part V (Mod warning in OP)

[Derrty]

Russians are a proud people - do not humiliate or attempt to humiliate them, they will fight back. That's exactly what happened - the fan didn't do anything to deserve that, which is clear - but after Gavrikov fought his heart out for his country and they almost tied it up, and the fans are dancing around like monkeys in the stands, of course he's pissed. That doesn't show respect towards the Russian team. Instead of blaming the Russian player, maybe Canadians should think more about how their overindulgent cheering habits and constant 'we're superior' rhetoric affects opposing teams.

I do think that Gavrikov was wrong, no question, and it was a bad thing to do. But he did it because he was angered at Canadian fans humiliating his country. He did this in defense of the honour of his country - not the smartest way to do it, but under the adrenaline-packed circumstances, that's what happened. Give the guy a break and respect the effort the Russian team put in.

So the Canadian fans should have just stood and clapped like they were at the opera? You do realize it was the Gold medal game right?

Please tell me you don't seriously think that if Russia won Gold in Sochi, that the roof wouldn't have come off the arena at the final buzzer.

 

[swiftwin]

Russians are a proud people - do not humiliate or attempt to humiliate them, they will fight back. That's exactly what happened - the fan didn't do anything to deserve that, which is clear - but after Gavrikov fought his heart out for his country and they almost tied it up, and the fans are dancing around like monkeys in the stands, of course he's pissed. That doesn't show respect towards the Russian team. Instead of blaming the Russian player, maybe Canadians should think more about how their overindulgent cheering habits and constant 'we're superior' rhetoric affects opposing teams.

I do think that Gavrikov was wrong, no question, and it was a bad thing to do. But he did it because he was angered at Canadian fans humiliating his country. He did this in defense of the honour of his country - not the smartest way to do it, but under the adrenaline-packed circumstances, that's what happened. Give the guy a break and respect the effort the Russian team put in.

You say proud people, I say juvenile xeno/homo/mysoginistic ultra-Alpha society. They don't know how to win with class, and they don't know how to lose with class. You would never see that kinds of behaviour from a Canadian player.

The only people attempting to humiliate others last night were the Russians with their taunting of the Canadian bench after their first goal.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Russians are a proud people - do not humiliate or attempt to humiliate them, they will fight back. That's exactly what happened - the fan didn't do anything to deserve that, which is clear - but after Gavrikov fought his heart out for his country and they almost tied it up, and the fans are dancing around like monkeys in the stands, of course he's pissed. That doesn't show respect towards the Russian team. Instead of blaming the Russian player, maybe Canadians should think more about how their overindulgent cheering habits and constant 'we're superior' rhetoric affects opposing teams.

I do think that Gavrikov was wrong, no question, and it was a bad thing to do. But he did it because he was angered at Canadian fans humiliating his country. He did this in defense of the honour of his country - not the smartest way to do it, but under the adrenaline-packed circumstances, that's what happened. Give the guy a break and respect the effort the Russian team put in.

I really don't get how Canadian fans humiliated the Russians. I don't know what Canadian fans were supposed to do in your opinion. Were they not suppose to cheer for their team? Were they supposed to cheer for the Russians? There's no excuse what so ever for throwing your stick into the crowd. I don't care if some bratty kid thinks he was insulted by some fans, absolutely no reason to throw your stick like that. The fans don't deserve it.

 

[Demon Eyes]

Russians are a proud people - do not humiliate or attempt to humiliate them, they will fight back. That's exactly what happened - the fan didn't do anything to deserve that, which is clear - but after Gavrikov fought his heart out for his country and they almost tied it up, and the fans are dancing around like monkeys in the stands, of course he's pissed. That doesn't show respect towards the Russian team. Instead of blaming the Russian player, maybe Canadians should think more about how their overindulgent cheering habits and constant 'we're superior' rhetoric affects opposing teams.

I do think that Gavrikov was wrong, no question, and it was a bad thing to do. But he did it because he was angered at Canadian fans humiliating his country. He did this in defense of the honour of his country - not the smartest way to do it, but under the adrenaline-packed circumstances, that's what happened. Give the guy a break and respect the effort the Russian team put in.

there's no disrespect to the russian team but no one gets a break just because they were angry, people can and have gotten hurt because someone lost their cool. it's not like Russian fans don't cheer their team when they win in Russia. I don't remember seeing them sitting quietly clapping there hands like it was a golf match in sochi.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You say proud people, I say juvenile xeno/homo/mysoginistic ultra-Alpha society. They don't know how to win with class, and they don't know how to lose with class. You would never see that kinds of behaviour from a Canadian player.

Oh come on. Canadians have had their share of incidents over the years.
I'm old enough to remember the Bobby Clarke slash to the ankle of Karlamov.

A dumb move by the Russian player but it's not like Canada has never had a player do something stupid. And the actions of one player don't reflect on the whole team, let alone the whole country.

 

[swiftwin]

Oh come on. Canadians have had their share of incidents over the years.
I'm old enough to remember the Bobby Clarke slash to the ankle of Karlamov.
A dumb move by the Russian player but it's not like Canada has never had a player do something stupid. And the actions of one player don't reflect on the whole team.

That has nothing to do with taunting the bench after scoring a goal, or assaulting a fan in the stands.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Oh come on. Canadians have had their share of incidents over the years.
I'm old enough to remember the Bobby Clarke slash to the ankle of Karlamov.

And a Russian decided to use skate as a weapon. Old history.

 

[BobDobolina]

You say proud people, I say juvenile xeno/homo/mysoginistic ultra-Alpha society.

Great hockey game last night. Then the internet happened.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

That has nothing to do with taunting the bench after scoring a goal, or assaulting a fan in the stands.

Agreed. Breaking a players ankle deliberately is on a whole different level.

I hate these arguments where one country's fans think their guys are pure as the driven snow and another country's players are hooligans.
These are 17 and 18 year old kids. Some times they make poor decisions.
What were you doing at age 17?

 

[kasps]

Agreed. Breaking a players ankle deliberately is on a whole different level.

I hate these arguments where one country's fans think their guys are pure as the driven snow and another country's players are hooligans.
These are 17 and 18 year old kids. Some times they make poor decisions.
What were you doing at age 17?

I like how you forget the kick in 72 ! But this has nothing to do with the past, nobody claimed Canada as angels. This action affected fans , who are NOT on the rink and have no protection. What if that stick hits a young child ???? Completely gutless and a cowardly action .

 

[Urbanskog]

It was a great game, deserving of the GMG... let's move on and win the Skoda Invitational.

Today, I have seen several Canadians say how Canada only needs to win the WHC now, yet when spring comes and Canada is beaten by the likes of France and eliminated as the quarterfinals come, you say "well no one really cares about this [insert a derogatory adjective here] tournament anyway".

Kind of interesting really.

 

[BobDobolina]

Looks like an accident to me. Reckless and stupid of course.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I like how you forget the kick in 72 ! But this has nothing to do with the past, nobody claimed Canada as angels. This action affected fans , who are NOT on the rink and have no protection. What if that stick hits a young child ???? Completely gutless and a cowardly action .

Agreed. It was quite reckless. Now what does this have to do with Russians being poor sports and Canadians being great sports?
A Russian kid did something stupid. Are you arguing that in the history of the WJC no Canadian kid has ever done something stupid?

 

[Frank the Tank]

Today, I have seen several Canadians say how Canada only needs to win the WHC now, yet when spring comes and Canada is beaten by the likes of France and eliminated as the quarterfinals come, you say "well no one really cares about this [insert a derogatory term adjective here] tournament anyway".

Kind of interesting really.

Really, the WHC is not important to the average Canadian hockey fan, but it is always nice to add another feather to one's metaphorical cap to complete the set, especially something that is prized by others (Europeans). Trust me, I would care more if a) the NHL playoffs were not going on at the same time, and b) I did not see pictures of, for example, Getzlaf and Perry trolling bars the night before games. It is apparent that for many Canadian players that this is free trip to Europe in the spring where they play some hockey too. The attitude is completely different to that of the Olympics, and it filters back-and-forth between players and fans.

 

[kasps]

Today, I have seen several Canadians say how Canada only needs to win the WHC now, yet when spring comes and Canada is beaten by the likes of France and eliminated as the quarterfinals come, you say "well no one really cares about this [insert a derogatory adjective here] tournament anyway".

Kind of interesting really.

Guess you missed who won the last 2 best on best tournaments ??? Who won those ???? Nobody cares about a 2nd rate tourney in May .
Very interesting really !!!!!

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

russia showed great resiliency to come back like they did had me on my seat... look forward to future meetings

 

[kasps]

Agreed. It was quite reckless. Now what does this have to do with Russians being poor sports and Canadians being great sports?
A Russian kid did something stupid. Are you arguing that in the history of the WJC no Canadian kid has ever done something stupid?

Not to fan, endangering Women and children in the stands. On the ice , every nation has had dark moments. This is completely different .

 

[Yakushev72]

Meh, Canada gets catered towards in the under-20s and Europe in the WHC. Of course, the IIHF picks hosts and the tournament schedule based on what makes them money. Playing at home is definitely an advantage in certain aspects, but staged is a much stronger word than I would use. Canada has used the crowd to get some hot starts recently; however, they also play much more undisciplined looking for the big play and hit. Like anything, there are pros and cons.

I have never considered Rene Fasel pro-Canadian, but, even if so, that would make up for the years where Bunny Ahearne did his best to thwart Canada all the while turning a blind eye towards USSR's shenanigans.

Canada doesn't support the WHC either financially or in the form of participation, so of course it does not have executive control over competition issues. Again, you get what you pay for.

 

[Canada4Gold]

That was an incredibly stupid thing for Gavrikov to do. He could have seriously hurt whoever that stick hit, potentially killed someone, if it hit them in the wrong place or hit a child. That's completely indefensible.

I was playing 2 on 2 road hockey when I was in grade 5, we were winning by a fair bit, one of the guys we were playing against got pissed off, whipped his stick at my teammate, he saw it and ducked, and it hit me. Knocked me out, rushed to the hospital, then rushed from there to another hospital with a doctor and nurse aboard the ambulance. Luckily it was only a skull fracture, and no internal bleeding in the brain occurred which I was told afterwards was a very real possibility. I could have died.

But no worries, lets just all throw sticks into the stands in anger after we lost a hockey game. It is after all a game, and meaningless in comparison to the lives he could have harmed.

He deserves criminal charges, but they probably won't be coming. I hope at least he gets a lengthy suspension from IIHF games.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Not to fan, endangering Women and children in the stands. On the ice , every nation has had dark moments. This is completely different .

Oh, give me a break!
That's way over the top!
What do you think this is? The Cold War?
It's a hockey game between teenagers.

 

[BobDobolina]

Holy hyperbole.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Canada doesn't support the WHC either financially or in the form of participation, so of course it does not have executive control over competition issues. Again, you get what you pay for.

Not in the case of Sochi. Sorry, too easy.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Sundin only got a one game suspension for throwing a broken stick over the glass, and that's a more dangerous offense. Realistically the most Gavrikov should see is a one game ban from his next IIHF event, but probably just a stern warning.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Holy hyperbole.

holy hyperbole, yeah forgive me for being pissed off at a Russian dude chucking his stick in anger when I almost died from the same thing when I was younger.

 

[Incognito]

A classless move by one of the Russian players after the final whistle, whipping his stick in to the crowd. It hit a fan ! He could have killed somebody , imagine if that hit's a young child. That piece of garbage should be charged with assault and suspended indefinitely .

Agreed. He should be charged. It hit a fan, and that is the very definition of assault. That piece of **** needs to be held accountable for his actions.