Goals against review thread

[Maine Fan]

Softy of the night is a dead heat. Two stoppable goals that looked very similar, both get the softy of the night.

Cole Caufield goal on Elvis Merzlikins



Jimmy Vesey goal on Ville Husso



Both pretty easy rebounds that the goalie had in their chest or glove and just slowly rolled out. Not sure one was any worse than the other. Maybe the one on Elvis was slightly worse, as it was more of a muffin shot? The initial shot on Elvis was also much closer than the initial shot on Husso.

Blackwood in SJ 3-9-1

 

[Bleedred]

Blackwood in SJ 3-9-1

He’s playing about the same level he played here last year, only on a much worse team.

And for what it’s worth, Kahkonen has about even numbers analytically with him.

 

[Maine Fan]

Bleedred, what were your thoughts about Schmid's play in last night's game against Philly? My thoughts were that he played well. I also wonder why he has been sitting on the bench. How long will we wait before he is in another game? To gain experience, he must play in NHL games.

Believe it or not, I would start him tonight against San Jose. That would mean playing back-to-back; doing so would build his confidence.

His play would take the pressure off Vitek. Maybe he would make some extraordinary saves when the defense fails.

I was thinking out loud.

 

[Bleedred]

November 30th, 2023

Devils vs Flyers: 3 goals against Schmid, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Hart, 1 stoppable.

Sharks vs Bruins: 3 goals against Blackwood, 0 stoppable. Swayman gets the shutout.

Blackhawks vs Red Wings: 5 goals against Mrazek, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Lyon, 1 stoppable.

Panthers vs Canadiens: 1 goal against Bobrovsky, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Primeau, 5 stoppable.

Penguins vs Lightning: 2 goals against Jarry, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Vasilevskiy, 1 stoppable.

Kraken vs Maple Leafs: 3 goals against Grubauer, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Woll, 1 stoppable.

Islanders vs Hurricanes: 4 goals against Varlamov, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Kochetkov, 2 stoppable.

Wild vs Predators: 1 goal against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Saros, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Lankinen in relief, 0 stoppable.

Sabres vs Blues: 6 goals against Luukkonen, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Binnington, 2 stoppable.

Oilers vs Jets: 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Hellebuyck, 2 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Coyotes: 4 goals against Georgiev, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Ingram, 0 stoppable.

Stars vs Flames: 4 goals against Wedgewood, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Markstrom, 0 stoppable.

Capitals vs Ducks: 4 goals against Kuemper, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Gibson, 1 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Canucks: 1 goal against Thompson, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Demko, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 90. Goals stoppable: 28. Percentage of goals stoppable: 31.11%. Combined save percentages: .898%.

 

[Bleedred]

Softy of the night is this Zach Hyman goal on Connor Hellebuyck



ESPN doesn’t have video for it, instead they have the Draisaitl goal also under the video listed as the Hyman goal, as well as the actual Draisaitl goal.

It’s the goal that made it 1-1 late in the 3rd period. It was awful.

 

[Bleedred]

Bleedred, what were your thoughts about Schmid's play in last night's game against Philly? My thoughts were that he played well. I also wonder why he has been sitting on the bench. How long will we wait before he is in another game? To gain experience, he must play in NHL games.

Believe it or not, I would start him tonight against San Jose. That would mean playing back-to-back; doing so would build his confidence.

His play would take the pressure off Vitek. Maybe he would make some extraordinary saves when the defense fails.

I was thinking out loud.

I didn’t like the second goal. I’ve nailed Blackwood on that too many times. He probably shouldn’t have been screened on that. It was a really harmless shot and the guys screening him were from well out.

But Blackwood was allowing a goal like that every 1-2 games.

They need to keep playing him. Vitek is broken here due to last playoffs. It won’t get better for him.

If Ruff was the one making the decision to play Vitek as much as he did last month then the goalie coach Rogalski needs to go right to Fitz and say “I had nothing to do with this decision. Akira should be playing more” because Vitek’s play last month is liable to get multiple people fired if they don’t wise up and discontinue the bullshit.

 

[My3Sons]

I didn’t like the second goal. I’ve nailed Blackwood on that too many times. He probably shouldn’t have been screened on that. It was a really harmless shot and the guys screening him were from well out.

But Blackwood was allowing a goal like that every 1-2 games.

They need to keep playing him. Vitek is broken here due to last playoffs. It won’t get better for him.

If Ruff was the one making the decision to play Vitek as much as he did last month then the goalie coach Rogalski needs to go right to Fitz and say “I had nothing to do with this decision. Akira should be playing more” because Vitek’s play last month is liable to get multiple people fired if they don’t wise up and discontinue the bullshit.

Is it reasonable to punish Schmid for Blackwood's sins? That's a whole new level of retribution, even for you.

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

@Bleedred Which Schmid goal did you deem stoppable? Thanks!

 

[Bleedred]

@Bleedred Which Schmid goal did you deem stoppable? Thanks!

Second goal.

That one where he was screened, but probably shouldn’t have been. It was a harmless shot and he really shouldn’t have been screened on it.

It was very Blackwood-esque.

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Second goal.

That one where he was screened, but probably shouldn’t have been. It was a harmless shot and he really shouldn’t have been screened on it.

It was very Blackwood-esque.

So a screened goal would be considered stoppable? Legit asking, not messing around here.

Just seemed more fluky than stoppable to me.

 

[Bleedred]

So a screened goal would be considered stoppable? Legit asking, not messing around here.

Just seemed more fluky than stoppable to me.

I don’t think that should have screened him is the probably.

I am not so forgiving on screens that are from that far out. If there’s a body or bodies directly in front of the goalie I’m not giving him a stoppable goal for it.

The screen was downtown on that one.

And yeah, it definitely was a bit fluky.

 

[Maine Fan]

I didn’t like the second goal. I’ve nailed Blackwood on that too many times. He probably shouldn’t have been screened on that. It was a really harmless shot and the guys screening him were from well out.

But Blackwood was allowing a goal like that every 1-2 games.

They need to keep playing him. Vitek is broken here due to last playoffs. It won’t get better for him.

If Ruff was the one making the decision to play Vitek as much as he did last month then the goalie coach Rogalski needs to go right to Fitz and say “I had nothing to do with this decision. Akira should be playing more” because Vitek’s play last month is liable to get multiple people fired if they don’t wise up and discontinue the bullshit.

Breedred I enjoyed the read. I respect your opinion like other at this forum. I do think you are too tough on Vitek. Let me tell you why I feel that way. He was hired as a bad up goalie. Last season he gave the Devils a terrific regular season but the coaching did not take into consideration that he was only a backup goalie. They overplayed him burnt him out as they approached the Playoffs. They expect this back up goalie to start playoff games as a playoff started. NO WAY that happens look at his history. Not let's go to this season. The Devils played with the defense to improve the offense in the off-season. IMO we started with a stronger offense, a weaker defense and a burned out weaker set of goalies. Not the formula for winning without the chips falling perfectly. IMO Vitek has had some bad games but not the number that fans ate talking about. Many goals are being scored because the defense is sucking in front of Vitek. Vitek takes the loss and loses confidence, the coaching staff is afraid to play Schmid for fear of a loss early on so they keep playing Vitek without tightening up the defense with the rest of the other 21 players. That's a coaching problem not a Vitek problem. Over play, poor defensive play in from of him is a formula for what we have gotten from this year's Devils to date

My opinion Fitz should have been beating in Ruff, play it down the ladder in the coaching staff and the other 21 players. It was like jump starting the offense without thinking about defense. We all know Championship games are won with defense. Defense includes the 4 defensive players, the two goalie and the entire set of offensive players.

In all sports defense wins first. Show me a team without defense and I will show you a loser. The goalie is NOT the only player called Defense

I am done stop me from beating the horse.

Lets Go Devils
Lets Go Schmid and Vitek we can do this with help from the others playing better defense if you are a defensive play and playing some defense if you are an offensive player.

Later

 

[Maine Fan]

Bleedred, I forgot to mention when your offensive stars are out with injuries all the more time to play defense. Coaching Problem. Win by one only goal 1-0
Done

 

[Maine Fan]

I am going to watch the Celtic vs the 76ers because I except the coaching staff to support my surprise Schmid tonight. I will jump in and out. Layer

 

[Bleedred]

December 1st, 2023

Sharks vs Devils: 3 goals against Kahkonen, 0 stoppable. 5 goals against Schmid, 2 stoppable.

Senators vs Blue Jackets: 4 goals against Korpisalo, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 14. Goals stoppable: 4. Percentage of goals stoppable: 28.57%. Combined save percentages: .892%.

 

[Bleedred]

Softy of the night is this Mikael Granlund goal on Akira Schmid



This is a goalie giveaway by Schmid

 

[Bleedred]

December 2nd, 2023

Lightning vs Stars: 6 goals against Vasilevskiy, 3 stoppable. 2 goals against Johansson in relief, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Oettinger, 0 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Jets: 3 goals against Soderblom, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Hellebuyck, 0 stoppable.

Rangers vs Predators: 3 goals against Shesterkin, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Lankinen, 1 stoppable.

Islanders vs Panthers: 3 goals against Sorokin, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Stolarz, 0 stoppable.

Sabres vs Hurricanes: 6 goals against Comrie, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Kochetkov, 2 stoppable.

Red Wings vs Canadiens: 4 goals against Husso, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Allen, 3 stoppable.

Kraken vs Senators: 2 goals against Daccord, 1 stoppable. Forsberg gets the shutout.

Flyers vs Penguins: 3 goals against Ersson, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Jarry, 1 stoppable.

Bruins vs Maple Leafs: 3 goals against Ullmark, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Woll, 2 stoppable.

Blues vs Coyotes: 3 goals against Hofer, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Ingram, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Ducks: 3 goals against Prosvetov, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gibson, 2 stoppable.

Canucks vs Flames: 3 goals against Demko, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Markstrom, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Golden Knights: 3 goals against Kuemper, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Thompson, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 80. Goals stoppable: 28. Percentage of goals stoppable: 35%. Combined save percentages: .902%.

 

[Bleedred]

Softy of the night is this Christian Fischer goal on Jake Allen



I haven’t seen a goalie look this clueless on a goal this season. That thing was laying there at his pad for so long he could have covered it multiple times. And I think it was in the back of his net before he even knew where it was.

 

[Bleedred]

December 3rd, 2023

Blackhawks vs Wild: 4 goals against Mrazek, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Fleury, 0 stoppable.

Sharks vs Rangers: 6 goals against Blackwood, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Bruins: 3 goals against Martin, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Swayman, 0 stoppable.

Predators vs Sabres: 1 goal against Saros, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Luukkonen, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Kings: 3 goals against Georgiev, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Talbot, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 27. Goals stoppable: 5. Percentage of goals stoppable: 18.52%. Combined save percentages: .911%.

 

[Bleedred]

Softy of the night is this Artemi Panarin goal on Mackenzie Blackwood



This was an absolutely brutal goal and came at an awful time.

 

[My3Sons]

Softy of the night is this Artemi Panarin goal on Mackenzie Blackwood



This was an absolutely brutal goal and came at an awful time.

You couldn't be more wrong. Blackwood is setting up Panarin for a later game where Blackwood will again purposely bobble the puck and let it lay flat on the ice right in front of him but at the last minute he will freeze it but Panarin will have aggressively skated into Blackwood taking an ill timed goalie interference penalty. Zetterlund will score on the ensuing power play assisted by both Okhotyuk and Mukhamadullin. San Jose will go from 32nd overall in the standings to 31st overall with this big season defining win. Blackwood is playing chess while everyone else is playing red rover.

 

[Bleedred]

December 4th, 2023

Penguins vs Flyers: 2 goals against Nedeljkovic, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Hart, 0 stoppable.

Stars vs Lightning: 4 goals against Oettinger, 2 stoppable. Vasilevskiy gets the shutout.

Kraken vs Canadiens: 3 goals against Grubauer, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Montembeault, 2 stoppable.

Hurricanes vs Jets: 2 goals against Raanta, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Brossoit, 0 stoppable.

Capitals vs Coyotes: 3 goals against Kuemper, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Lindgren in relief, 0 stoppable. Ingram gets the shutout.

Blues vs Golden Knights: 1 goal against Binnington, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Thompson, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 24. Goals stoppable: 7. Percentage of goals stoppable: 29.17%. Combined save percentages: .932%.

 

[Bleedred]

Softy of the night is this Michael Carcone goal on Darcy Kuemper

 

[Bleedred]

December 5th, 2023

Devils vs Canucks: 5 goals against Vanecek, 1 stoppable. 6 goals against Demko, 2 stoppable.

Kings vs Blue Jackets: 3 goals against Copley, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable.

Rangers vs Senators: 5 goals against Shesterkin, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Forsberg, 0 stoppable.

Red Wings vs Sabres: 3 goals against Lyon, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Comrie, 2 stoppable.

Sharks vs Islanders: 4 goals against Kahkonen, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Blackhawks: 3 goals against Saros, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Soderblom, 0 stoppable.

Wild vs Flames: 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Vladar, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Wolf in relief, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Ducks: 2 goals against Georgiev, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gibson, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 59. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 30.5%. Combined save percentages: .886%.

 

[My3Sons]

December 5th, 2023

Devils vs Canucks: 5 goals against Vanecek, 1 stoppable. 6 goals against Demko, 2 stoppable.

Kings vs Blue Jackets: 3 goals against Copley, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable.

Rangers vs Senators: 5 goals against Shesterkin, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Forsberg, 0 stoppable.

Red Wings vs Sabres: 3 goals against Lyon, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Comrie, 2 stoppable.

Sharks vs Islanders: 4 goals against Kahkonen, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Blackhawks: 3 goals against Saros, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Soderblom, 0 stoppable.

Wild vs Flames: 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Vladar, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Wolf in relief, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Ducks: 2 goals against Georgiev, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gibson, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 59. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 30.5%. Combined save percentages: .886%.

So Vanacek is better than Demko as you see it?