Goalie controversy thread

TheDizee

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another game, another L for the Blues when Binnington starts. 4 goals allowed tonight.

cant recall the last time he beat a good team.
 

ScratchCatFever

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another game, another L for the Blues when Binnington starts. 4 goals allowed tonight.

cant recall the last time he beat a good team.
I'm taking into account we were on back to back games and on our 6th game in 9 days. I honestly thought Binner was fine yesterday. I'm just curious as to what we have to gain by trading him in the stretch run of the regular season while jostling for playoff positioning, then hoping that Lindgren will be not only a serviceable backup for Bill but also be able to step into a regular role if he ends up getting hurt.
 

ChicagoBlues

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I'm taking into account we were on back to back games and on our 6th game in 9 days. I honestly thought Binner was fine yesterday. I'm just curious as to what we have to gain by trading him in the stretch run of the regular season while jostling for playoff positioning, then hoping that Lindgren will be not only a serviceable backup for Bill but also be able to step into a regular role if he ends up getting hurt.
I agree that Binner was fine yesterday. We had a brief lapse that resulted in two goals and then lost possession in OT. It was a tough loss. And Kyrou was fine anyway. It wasn't a huge hit. Kind of a drama queen there.
 
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TheDizee

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Imagine having Chucky Sideburns as a option to go along with Husso but still feeding Binnington starts
 

TheDizee

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Gonna lose to a team who has not won a road game in 2022, lmao. serves coach right for starting Binner.

ONCE AGAIN, he has no business starting unless its B2B's and quite honestly, he needs to be sent to the AHL to work on his game. The only chance he has at saving his career here is to work on his game in the minors. You cannot afford this guy to continue to spin his wheels and shit out 4+ GA every start while you are fighting for a playoff spot.
 
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TheDizee

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Binner is 67th in save % and likely going down after tonights trainwreck.

You keep on feeding him starts though, Chief...
 

WATTAGE4451

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Imagine having Chucky Sideburns as a option to go along with Husso but still feeding Binnington starts
The 28 year old who couldnt stick in nhl and still has a sub .900 sv% in the ahl after 6 seasons there?

Binny is bad, but this stupid chafles lindgren worship based off 4 game sample size vs leagues worst teams isnridiculous. Heck, for a minute it looked like binny was turning it around to when he faced flyers(previous time, not tonight) blackhawks and islanders.

Lindgrenis not the answer anymore than hut hutchinson was last year for the leafs.
 

TheDizee

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The 28 year old who couldnt stick in nhl and still has a sub .900 sv% in the ahl after 6 seasons there?

Binny is bad, but this stupid chafles lindgren worship based off 4 game sample size vs leagues worst teams isnridiculous. Heck, for a minute it looked like binny was turning it around to when he faced flyers(previous time, not tonight) blackhawks and islanders.

Lindgrenis not the answer anymore than hut hutchinson was last year for the leafs.
you honestly think chucky sideburns cant perform better than binner has?

chucky sideburns was spitting out all star numbers with a half AHL roster in front of him.
 

Linkens Mastery

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you honestly think chucky sideburns cant perform better than binner has?

chucky sideburns was spitting out all star numbers with a half AHL roster in front of him.
Against Detroit, Montreal, and Dallas x2. All of which are in the bottom 15 in the league at GF/PG and all of which were bottom feeders at the time.
 

BlueSeal

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One of the dumbest f***ing things you've ever said. He has control over passing and shooting and back checking right? He controls the effort the players put into the game right? I'm sure it's his fault we didn't have a shot on goal for 10 minutes into the game.
For the love of God brother, preach!
 

TruBlu

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I find it funny how many of the people who used to blame Allen for losses and gave no blame to the rest of the team other than to say they played differently in front of him have now flipped the script and blame the team without placing the same blame on Binny. I've held off on making a determination on Binny just for the sake of making sure I didn't cherry pick. I don't even feel like Binny is an average goalie in the league anymore. I'd put him a level below Allen even, certainly no better.
 

Cotton McKnight

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I find it funny how many of the people who used to blame Allen for losses and gave no blame to the rest of the team other than to say they played differently in front of him have now flipped the script and blame the team without placing the same blame on Binny. I've held off on making a determination on Binny just for the sake of making sure I didn't cherry pick. I don't even feel like Binny is an average goalie in the league anymore. I'd put him a level below Allen even, certainly no better.
Allen sucked, I would often lament Shakey's over-movement being a cause of a lot of bad goals, not to mention letting some absolutely soft swiss cheese in and then making the harder save, boy he was confusing to watch.

Binnington, yeah I'm done with him until he can prove himself as a goalie that is not swiss cheese (i.e. fix his game and learn to refocus). This team played the same in front of him as they do for Husso. I mean it's one thing for Binnington to get beat on a setup in the zone, that's on the D losing coverage, but when a winger is basically walking down the board after entering the zone and throws the puck where you normally hold your glove (Yo goalie coach fix that), well you've just lost your concentration again. It seems Binnington has no concentration anymore. A few minutes after the 1st goal against the puck easily beat Binnington (from not all that close) and luckily went off the post. Second goal, sure the PHI player backed into Binnington (Binner was outside of the crease) he could have kept his composure and came up with an amazing save, but he has his concentration broken rather easily. Third goal against, swiss cheese. That's two of Binnington's games in a row where he was beat on a one time inbetween his blocker and his body (his previous game he was sliding right to left, tonight he was stepping slightly from left to right). The goalie coach should be working on that with him. 4th goal against, stops the drive to the net on the left side, watches the puck pop three feet up in the air and about 4 feet away from him and does not ready himself and pickup the PHI player that was ready to pounce on the rebound. Sure the D should have not just coasted through, so I would say this was a bad goalie play and bad D play.

I know we're going to have to rely on Binnington for some of the games over the next 19. From what they were saying last night we need 11 wins to stay where we are. If we have to rely on Binnington because let's say Husso needs a rest, or has an injury (hopefully no jinx), I would feel worse about this team (than I already do) heading in the playoffs.

:end rant:
 

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