Goalie controversy thread

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Yeah, but Binnington keeps letting just as many or more goals in. I've also seen Binny mishandling the puck quite a bit here lately leading to a few goals. I'll take Greiss's performance at 1.2 million over the 6 million we're paying Binny any day. At least we'd have the money to address other areas of need.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it's why he keeps consistently facing more shots.

 

[TheDizee]

People can try to justify or make excuses for it all they want, but that Binnington contract is a dumpster fire and part of the reason this team sucks. Shave off 2-3 million from it and you could have kept Perron.

 

[Xerloris]

Yeah, but Binnington keeps letting just as many or more goals in. I've also seen Binny mishandling the puck quite a bit here lately leading to a few goals. I'll take Greiss's performance at 1.2 million over the 6 million we're paying Binny any day. At least we'd have the money to address other areas of need.

Do you watch our games? Trying to say "behind the same defense" is crazy when watching the games from one game to the next we don't even know what team is going to show up. One game our Defense is good, the next it would get destroyed in the AHL. This team is WILDLY inconsistent.

People can try to justify or make excuses for it all they want, but that Binnington contract is a dumpster fire and part of the reason this team sucks. Shave off 2-3 million from it and you could have kept Perron.

Binningtons contract is fine. Our teams lack of defense is the problem and if that's on the team or on the coaching staff is yet to be seen. Also, keeping Perron got 4.7 mill not 2-3 mill.

 

[TheDizee]

Do you watch our games? Trying to say "behind the same defense" is crazy when watching the games from one game to the next we don't even know what team is going to show up. One game our Defense is good, the next it would get destroyed in the AHL. This team is WILDLY inconsistent.



Binningtons contract is fine. Our teams lack of defense is the problem and if that's on the team or on the coaching staff is yet to be seen. Also, keeping Perron got 4.7 mill not 2-3 mill.

They wouldn't have signed people like leivo and others if they had perron. You would have had the cap. But binners bloated pathetic contract chews up unnecessary cap. 70th in GAA yet getting paid like a elite goalie.

 

[joe galiba]

They wouldn't have signed people like leivo and others if they had perron. You would have had the cap. But binners bloated pathetic contract chews up unnecessary cap. 70th in GAA yet getting paid like a elite goalie.

paid like an elite goalie?
8 goalies make 6 million or more
there are 32 teams, that is 25%
not a lot of people view the top 25% of anything as “elite”

 

[TheDizee]

If we had Chuckie, we would not be in the position we are in right now.

 

[Xerloris]

If we had Chuckie, we would not be in the position we are in right now.

I will accept the slight chance of landing Bedard and having a 1st for Tarasenko over having a goalie nicknamed Chuckie Sideburns.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

If we had Chuckie, we would not be in the position we are in right now.

Yes, our team would be much different if we had a backup posting a .907sv% instead of Greiss who's posting a .909sv% currently.

 

[TheDizee]

Yes, our team would be much different if we had a backup posting a .907sv% instead of Greiss who's posting a .909sv% currently.

Not always just about stats. If that was the case, team chemistry would be irrelevant. Very little turnover from last year yet the chemistry was f***ed with. Look what has happened.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Chuckie is spitting out a 2.57 .914 along with being a loved teammate and giving the team unity and heart.

Oh well, our 3.55 .903 welfare dumpster dive was the better choice!

Not always just about stats. If that was the case, team chemistry would be irrelevant. Very little turnover from last year yet the chemistry was f***ed with. Look what has happened.

So stats matter when Lindgren's were sitting above Greiss, but not when the shoe is on the other foot?

 

[Ted Hoffman]

If we had Chuckie, we would not be in the position we are in right now.

Presuming Chuckie would play as well here as he is somewhere else. He could also be putting up a 4.62 GAA like he did with Montreal in 2019-20 with a .167 quality start percentage.

Given that Binnington is facing almost 2 high-danger shots a game more (and Griess is getting 3.5 a game more, so it's not like the Blues are tightening up things when someone else is in net), I'd argue the "gain" of Lindgren in net would be minimal because he'd still be getting shelled by the opposition. You're talking about 7 goals saved, or about a win and change. Not really moving the needle there, and I don't see Lindgren doing better than that.

But yes, let's keep pointing to 5 games last season as the definitive, be-all answer for how Lindgren would play his entire career. Blues fans wanted to do the same thing with Curtis Sanford when he was 5-1-0, 1..96, .912 in the 2002-03 season and his 9-3-2, 2.31, .922 mark from about 1/23 to 3/13 in the 2005-06 season, and that worked out really well.

 

[Stealth JD]

Welcome back, IB.

 

[TruBlu]

It will be interesting to see what we do goalie-wise next year. I think we' should strongly consider a dual goalie rotation. Binnington is here to stay, at least for now, with that massive contract. We'll need someone better than Greiss to pick up the slack, and I don't want to throw a new AHL goalie to the wolves.

 

[Xerloris]

Not always just about stats. If that was the case, team chemistry would be irrelevant. Very little turnover from last year yet the chemistry was f***ed with. Look what has happened.

I don't believe this season has anything to do with team chemistry and everything to do with shitty coaching.