Management GM Pierre Dorion/Front Office Thread - Part IX [Mod Warning in post 1)

[Sweatred]

Is PD strengthening his position by saying the 7oa is in play or weakening it? On the one hand it could be perceived he is a touch desperate, on the other hand it provides him the ability to respond to any enquiry by saying he has several pursuers and you're going to need to up your offer.

He's also looking for an impact player that is both young and has term (or control). Generally speaking that type of player is going to be challenging to acquire

I'm ok if we keep the pick. Just sign Giroux and keep the pick.

Doesn’t sound like a Giroux wants to play in Ottawa … or any team that is concerned with selling tickets or merch. Dorion needs players who want to be part of the solution here.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Doesn’t sound like a Giroux wants to play in Ottawa … or any team that is concerned with selling tickets or merch. Dorion needs players who want to be part of the solution here.

Field of Dreams. If you build it they will come.

 

[cudi]

Field of Dreams. If you build it they will come.

RIP Ray Liotta

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

RIP Ray Liotta

What? Really?!?

 

[DrEasy]

Flyers did 39 pts from 06-07 to 07-08. Penguins did a 47 pts jump from 2005-06 to 2006-07

Obligatory:

 

[cudi]

What? Really?!?

sadly yes. He was sooo good in every movie I seen him in. Lost an acting heavy weight

 

[Xspyrit]

and somehow I think he played worse than his numbers indicate given the goals that bounced in off him lol

He's the Scott Sterling of hockey

 

[Big Muddy]

Would you rather sacrifice the possibility of winning the cup to speed up a scorched earth rebuild that was always going to take this long? If there is new ownership they will want to be a contender when the new arena is built. Trading 7th overall will not help in that regard. This team needs to stay the path, dorion needs to put down the phone.

Not only are there a significant amount of UFA's most of the contenders are pressed against the cap. I have no idea why people think trading the top 10 pick is the way to go here. There are only so many landing spots. If management waits it out a bit they might even be able to get a guy on a short term prove it deal because they know they will get top 6 time in Ottawa. Time to get creative not desperate. The flat cap helps this team immensely even if they arent willing to take on a contract for picks they should still be able to exploit it.

Yes, I'm sure lots of folks get concerned knowing that Dorion may be feeling pressure to get something done.

On your 2nd paragraph, yes I agree. After looking at CapFriendly, there are quite a few teams (21 teams approximately by my estimation) this year that are already either at cap, or that are close with several players needed to fill out a 23 player roster.

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Thank you for the amazing 9 years

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Got to factor in LTIR as well as part of the exercise mentioned above.

To me, its looking like a lot of teams will need to do a lot of work to meet cap so this would be a good market environment for a GM with cap space to navigate.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

RIP Ray Liotta

Good call, did not clue in to the connection when I posted but saw he passed away. He's definitely a legend.

Might have to pop in my Field of Dreams or Goodfellas 4k disc on the projector tonight to mark his passing.

 

[Big Muddy]

Is Dorion saying he is open to trading the 7th pick all that big a deal?

I don't think anyone expected him to say otherwise. We're obviously in need of a top-6 W and top-4 D and that pick is our best asset right now outside of trading a core player.

Ya, I see others thinking about that as well.

Given how many teams are going to face cap challenges this year, I'm not sure he really needs to advertise he's open for business.

By going through CapFriendly and looking at the numbers, I noticed that there were around 21 teams (depends on the exact criteria you use to reach the number of course) that will need to fill multiple roster spots while not having much cap space to accommodate this objective. That should be his target list you would think, and there's no shortage of teams that he could approach that will need to do something.

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Thank you for the amazing 9 years

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LTIR situations could play a role, so you have to factor in LTIR as well as part of the exercise mentioned above.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Doesn’t sound like a Giroux wants to play in Ottawa … or any team that is concerned with selling tickets or merch. Dorion needs players who want to be part of the solution here.

before this thought runs off and becomes true in peoples heads the twitter poster who said this..... is a meme account and admitted it was fun posting misinformation.

 

[Big Muddy]

Is PD strengthening his position by saying the 7oa is in play or weakening it? On the one hand it could be perceived he is a touch desperate, on the other hand it provides him the ability to respond to any enquiry by saying he has several pursuers and you're going to need to up your offer.

He's also looking for an impact player that is both young and has term (or control). Generally speaking that type of player is going to be challenging to acquire

I'm ok if we keep the pick. Just sign Giroux and keep the pick.

A lot of teams need multiple players to fill out a 23 player roster yet have little cap space to work with. Even a cursory glance at CapFriendly (something even posters here can do) will reveal this. That's a pretty big shopping or target list. See post #58 & #60.

I'd say the smart play for a GM to do is to do the research and analysis, target the teams that face cap challenges along with the target players on those teams, and start making calls.

 

[Big Muddy]

I figured I'd get attacked for saying such blasphemy, but honestly would not surprise me.

You were brave LOL.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

and somehow I think he played worse than his numbers indicate given the goals that bounced in off him lol

We need him to play one more year so I can get a stick signed by him

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

We need him to play one more year so I can get a stick signed by him

Belleville could use him.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Do we know anything official yet in terms of what happened with McGuire?

 

[Tuna99]

Flyers did 39 pts from 06-07 to 07-08. Penguins did a 47 pts jump from 2005-06 to 2006-07

Did they change coaches?

 

[Loach]

John Steves replaced Hitch the year before

 

[BondraTime]

Do we know anything official yet in terms of what happened with McGuire?

Will never find out for sure, but occam’s razor can probably be used in this case.

Dorion likely never wanted him here. He’s the only guy who is in the organization from a hockey ops standpoint that could make that call, or argue/defend the point.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Do we know anything official yet in terms of what happened with McGuire?

Yep, he’s officially fired, and we pay him for 2 more years, and we won’t find out more than that.

 

[cudi]

Do we know anything official yet in terms of what happened with McGuire?

probably wont know for a while, if at all. NDA was likely signed and the Sens arent gonna leak anything unless it makes them look good. I doubt Pierre did anything insane behind the scenes but possibly annoy the living shit out of people

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

probably wont know for a while, if at all. NDA was likely signed and the Sens arent gonna leak anything unless it makes them look good. I doubt Pierre did anything insane behind the scenes but possibly annoy the living shit out of people

Probably gave someone a "Double Dion!" in the hallway.

 

[Philadelphia Collins]

Do we know anything official yet in terms of what happened with McGuire?

It’s funny that this question never came up during his 1200 interview, nice work as usual boys

 

[cudi]

It’s funny that this question never came up during his 1200 interview, nice work as usual boys

likely told them he cant/wont discuss it so no point trying to 'gotcha' him after he laid out the conditions of doing the interview.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

likely told them he cant/wont discuss it so no point trying to 'gotcha' him after he laid out the conditions of doing the interview.

Likely will never be spoken about if he ever wants another job…