Management GM Pierre Dorion/Front Office Thread - Part IX [Mod Warning in post 1)

[Alf Silfversson]

So PD should NOT have acquired a goaltender…. So who would have been the Starter and the Back up?

And what should he have done with the Cap Space allocated to Korp?

Get a goalie; just don't get one who has been a starter-backup tweener for the majority of his career for 5 years.

Or don't trade Gustavsson last year.

I'm optimistic that Korpi will be useful but if he isn't we are stuck trying to get the Forsbergs, Talbots and Korpis for the next 5 years because we have committed too much cap space.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Korpisalo isn't any more proven than Forsberg. Well see I guess, hopefully Korpi's improved play last season was really a result of him finally getting surgery and not just a one-year anomaly.

 

[Cosmix]

Don't you think firing everyone in a yr where we are expected to make the playoffs would cause some upheaval & potentially set us back rather than forward for a while at least & maybe cost us a playoff berth next yr? If they get off to a poor start than I would expect someone to get fired, but not everyone all at once. And if they get off to a good start than the point is moot because I doubt they fire anyone when they are doing well, but we shall see. soon enough.

I think we need a new GM asap. Give him the power to hire his own staff. He can keep some of the existing staff if he judges them as suitable.

 

[Cosmix]

Don't you think firing everyone in a yr where we are expected to make the playoffs would cause some upheaval & potentially set us back rather than forward for a while at least & maybe cost us a playoff berth next yr? If they get off to a poor start than I would expect someone to get fired, but not everyone all at once. And if they get off to a good start than the point is moot because I doubt they fire anyone when they are doing well, but we shall see. soon enough.

I think it would improve the roster construction in the long run. The new GM could retain any staff he wants for as long or short as he wants.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I think we need a new GM asap. Give him the power to hire his own staff. He can keep some of the existing staff if he judges them as suitable.

No. Not unless the GM is better. (No one is better than PD)

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

No. Not unless the GM is better. (No one is better than PD)

I would say we need a GM. No one in that position would often be better than PD. I'll agree with that. I don't think we can honestly say "anyone is better" either .

 

[Ice-Tray]

A little winning will be the soothing balm
In here and everywhere

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

A little winning will be the soothing balm
In here and everywhere

Hell yeah

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Looks like the writing is on the “Wall” as Steve Staios is scrubbed from the Oilers management website…..

Hockey Operations | Edmonton Oilers

The official National Hockey League website including news, rosters, stats, schedules, teams, and video.

www.nhl.com

 

[Micklebot]

Looks like the writing is on the “Wall” as Steve Staios is scrubbed from the Oilers management website…..

Hockey Operations | Edmonton Oilers

The official National Hockey League website including news, rosters, stats, schedules, teams, and video.

www.nhl.com

Way back machine shows he hasn't been on that page all year.

 

[BondraTime]

Happens a lot with guys that are in those types of positions

Him being/not being on the website or program has little/nothing to do with him staying or leaving.

I personally think he's a Sen with absolute certainty for the start of next season, and would be right now had the sale given the means to make meaningful MGMT changes earlier than 2 weeks before the start of the season.

It wouldn't be unheard of to make a GM change that late in the game, but I think it will happen during a losing streak/end of season, regradless of how the Sens finish

 

[Larionov]

Putting aside who the GM is, the problem I see is how thin our front office is on the scouting and player development front, and the fact that the hiring cycle for the coming season is now complete. Yes, Staios could come here for a promotion, but a lot of the other people who we would have liked to slot into a lot of those roles are already committed somewhere else for the coming season. The glacier-like sale and transition process has really hampered us...

 

[BondraTime]

Putting aside who the GM is, the problem I see is how thin our front office is on the scouting and player development front, and the fact that the hiring cycle for the coming season is now complete. Yes, Staios could come here for a promotion, but a lot of the other people who we would have liked to slot into a lot of those roles are already committed somewhere else for the coming season. The glacier-like sale and transition process has really hampered us...

The second we weren't able to make changes in May/June, we were in trouble. It put the team behind another year with regards to getting it's new identity and structure.

 

[Sensinitis]

Korpisalo isn't any more proven than Forsberg. Well see I guess, hopefully Korpi's improved play last season was really a result of him finally getting surgery and not just a one-year anomaly.

He is more proven in the playoffs, but other than that you're right.

Many goalies have taken off in their late twenties to have good to great careers, our best goalie of all time who played more than 1 season Craig Anderson is a perfect example of that.

Hopefully he plays well during his contract and Soogard or Merilainen take over as starter in a few years.

 

[Cosmix]

He is more proven in the playoffs, but other than that you're right.

Many goalies have taken off in their late twenties to have good to great careers, our best goalie of all time who played more than 1 season Craig Anderson is a perfect example of that.

Hopefully he plays well during his contract and Soogard or Merilainen take over as starter in a few years.

I hope he wins the Vezina trophy. By the way I met Vezina’s grandson a few years ago.

 

[Hale The Villain]

He is more proven in the playoffs, but other than that you're right.

He's played 15 total playoff games in his career.

Wouldn't consider that kind of sample size sufficient to prove anything.

 

[Sensinitis]

He's played 15 total playoff games in his career.

Wouldn't consider that kind of sample size sufficient to prove anything.

He also won a series, so i respectfully disagree

 

[Micklebot]

He's played 15 total playoff games in his career.

Wouldn't consider that kind of sample size sufficient to prove anything.

That's 159th all time most playoff starts...

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

LFG

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

The second we weren't able to make changes in May/June, we were in trouble. It put the team behind another year with regards to getting it's new identity and structure.

what is the current identity, and what exactly is wrong with it, that requires it to be changed?

 

[BondraTime]

what is the current identity, and what exactly is wrong with it, that requires it to be changed?

Pretty self explanatory

 

[Golden_Jet]

Pretty self explanatory

I think team identity is fine, not self explanatory to me.

 

[armani]

what is the current identity, and what exactly is wrong with it, that requires it to be changed?

Pretty self explanatory

We are a Team.
Internal competition.
Play hard.
Character.

LMAO at the last one. This team had never lacked character with respect to variety, lots of low quality characters ran through this organization from ownership, management down to players.

All in the same while, the team boasts the best top-6 forwards and top-4 defencemen since 2007 run.

A real paradox, before you look at the depth chart/prospect pipelines.

Waiting to see what decisions the new ownership takes that will project this team’s ambition moving forward. I hope Andlauer will hold management and coaching accountable for their perfomance while providing support and minimal hockeys ops interference in making this team a perennial contender. Would love to see a winning culture as part of establishing the team’s identity under new ownership.

 

[BondraTime]

I think team identity is fine, not self explanatory to me.

Read the post I’m responding to, talking about changing the GM and bringing in an entire new staff, but the hiring cycle being over and us not being able to bring in who we want. Pretty self explanatory. Not my fault Count couldn’t use context before posting assuming I’m talking about the players in a conversation completely about the structure of management and lack of new hires.

Andlauer wants to get his identity on the team. He wants his people in charge. We were unable to do that this summer because of the sale not being completed on time. That will, barring a collapse, happen this coming summer. The team as of now has the same oversight as the previous regime. Right now, there isn’t a single Andlauer hired employee in the Sens Org. Our owners identity isn’t imprinted yet, we will have to wait because of the timing of the sale.

We’re in the GM/Front office thread, in a conversation about brining in a whole new set of front office employees at the highest levels. An entirely new identity and structure to the management of the Sens.