Management GM Pierre Dorion/Front Office Thread - Part IX [Mod Warning in post 1)

[AchtzehnBaby]

Sure, it’s entertainment, but the level of engagement will vary from person to person.

I guess I’m not sure what you mean by mindless.

maybe the wrong word.... it's supposed to make people forget about the day-to-day grind of being a slave to "the man"

 

[NyQuil]

maybe the wrong word.... it's supposed to make people forget about the day-to-day grind of being a slave to "the man"

I think there’s a healthy level of engagement psychologically and we all flirt with that level from time to time if you’re posting regularly on this board.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

I am not saying the business of. and not for the athletes and owners. for the masses

Remove the emotional investment and hockey (or any other sport for that matter) is not all that entertaining to watch.

The masses aren't sitting down to watch a Swiss League game (unless they're from Davos, Lausanne, etc).

When your entire product depends on emotional investment, you'll get a ton of positive and a ton of negative emotions. It's a roller coaster, and that's what it's supposed to be.

The NHL wants fans to hate on their teams, at times. Hating on your team means you care more than you should. When you care more than you should, you spend more money than you should.

A mindless fans goes to games when the team is good and entertaining, but stops when the team is bad and boring. Or when something more entertaining comes along. That's not the ideal fan the league wants.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Remove the emotional investment and hockey (or any other sport for that matter) is not all that entertaining to watch.

The masses aren't sitting down to watch a Swiss League game (unless they're from Davos, Lausanne, etc).

When your entire product depends on emotional investment, you'll get a ton of positive and a ton of negative emotions. It's a roller coaster, and that's what it's supposed to be.

The NHL wants fans to hate on their teams, at times. Hating on your team means you care more than you should. When you care more than you should, you spend more money than you should.

A mindless fans goes to games when the team is good and entertaining, but stops when the team is bad and boring. Or when something more entertaining comes along. That's not the ideal fan the league wants.

I agree. If sports didn't feel like high stakes for the team I'm cheering for, I just wouldn't watch.

But then, lots barely even have a "team" and just like to watch best on best and that's enough for them.

And everywhere in between.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

There is a tremendous amount of love of the game and passion on display at sporting events
Its amazing and I love it.
Look at football in Europe or South America .. the Fans have gone way beyond mindless entertainment.... Ok many are mindless but not numb
NFL .. going to NFL games is nuts
Hockey.. I'd say especially in Canada but its caught on big time .. Look at Vegas and Nashville.
The World Championships ..
The fan experience is amazing .. so much energy.
Its a disservice and an under appreciation to call it mindless entertainment.

Real Life Real Drama

LOL

 

[Big Muddy]

Hockey, or another sport is entertainment, but fans get pretty engaged & passionate about their "entertainment".

 

[Daffy]

Let's see your critical analysis. Nichols publishes his. Its not a universal thing. He often makes several points.. so if you want a real discussion .. lets see how your analysis differs.

It's not that deep lol. Just the constant negativity is tiresome.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

It's not that deep lol. Just the constant negativity is tiresome.

too general

 

[Daffy]

too general

I think I found Nichols account lol

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[Ice-Tray]

It was also interesting that he’s in constant contact with Andlauer

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Remove the emotional investment and hockey (or any other sport for that matter) is not all that entertaining to watch.

The masses aren't sitting down to watch a Swiss League game (unless they're from Davos, Lausanne, etc).

When your entire product depends on emotional investment, you'll get a ton of positive and a ton of negative emotions. It's a roller coaster, and that's what it's supposed to be.

The NHL wants fans to hate on their teams, at times. Hating on your team means you care more than you should. When you care more than you should, you spend more money than you should.

A mindless fans goes to games when the team is good and entertaining, but stops when the team is bad and boring. Or when something more entertaining comes along. That's not the ideal fan the league wants.

And it's even bigger with the NHL specifically. Going from a heavy hitting, physical, hate-the-other-side, go to war league, to what we have now...

NHL is a different beast these days. And you can see the fanbase is changing. (Not up to me to say if it's for the better or not...)

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[Icelevel]

Oh man. That’s bad. He was talking about groulx

 

[swiftwin]

It's amazing how these people always hear what they want to hear.

 

[Icelevel]

It's amazing how these people always hear what they want to hear.

Really bad look there for GN

 

[Daffy]

Lmao Nichols

 

[Ice-Tray]

Dumbass

 

[NyQuil]

I don't really care if he makes an error, as long as he's up front about it, admits it and apologies for the oversight.

He's just doubling down:

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I don't really care if he makes an error, as long as he's up front about it, admits it and apologies for the oversight.

He's just doubling down:

At first I thought he was talking Pierre Groulx... then when he said he'd get flak.. I thought wait is he talking about himself? It came out weird.
I Feel terrible and I apologize to all that may be offended.

 

[NyQuil]

At first I thought he was talking Pierre Groulx... then when he said he'd get flak.. I thought wait is he talking about himself? It came out weird.
I Feel terrible and I apologize to all that may be offended.

"You're probably right, my bad."

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

"You're probably right, my bad."

Let me express my feelings NyQuil.

 

[NyQuil]

Let me express my feelings NyQuil.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

At first I thought he was talking Pierre Groulx... then when he said he'd get flak.. I thought wait is he talking about himself? It came out weird.
I Feel terrible and I apologize to all that may be offended.

Here is the actual quote ..I believe.
“Talent, athleticism, powerful, compete, size. Pierre went and saw him, was happy with what he saw. I'll get in trouble for saying Pierre, but anyways, I went, saw him and was really happy with what I saw in the playoffs."

We have heard Pierre refer to Pierre before so .. imo if he is talking Groulx or Dorion is not clear here especially when he switches to "I went and saw him" after saying he'd get in trouble for saying Pierre.

Trouble from who?

 

[NyQuil]

Here is the actual quote ..I believe.
“Talent, athleticism, powerful, compete, size. Pierre went and saw him, was happy with what he saw. I'll get in trouble for saying Pierre, but anyways, I went, saw him and was really happy with what I saw in the playoffs."

We have heard Pierre refer to Pierre before so .. imo if he is talking Groulx or Dorion is not clear here especially when he switches to "I went and saw him" after saying he'd get in trouble for saying Pierre.

Trouble from who?

I think it's pretty clear.

Pierre (the goalie coach) went and saw him, and then Pierre (the GM) went and saw him.

It's probably some kind of inside joke between him and Groulx, or in terms of naming a specific scout by name.