Not many ‘Dorion supporters’ in here per say. Most people labeled as such are actually supporters of what the rebuild looks like on the ice. Most would be fine with, and deal with new managers and coaches, it’s just not as important.
So what you're saying is that the team is woefully inadequate except for the entire D and the top 6 forwards?
"We have a rights to our labour, but not to the fruits of our labour"....Krishna to Arjuna
This is the drum I've beaten a few times. I don't see anything that makes it a slam dunk argument in either direction and nobody should be surprised that he's getting another kick at the can, nor should they have been surprised if he were let go this summer. Anyone trying to argue otherwise isn't being honest imo. You can see the core is there, and you can see the depth is thin. Goaltending is still a huge question mark. Plenty of good and plenty of bad. I'm both optimistic and concerned. This summer is huge and he's got some work ahead of him to put together a playoff caliber roster, because it looks a little too thin to call it that yet.
that generally bring with it: wait and see.
Ya I think its a ticket worth buying at this point.
sorry Straka.
I will leave the marketing and money management up to the team. I do think it's time for fans to buy in. I also don't fault anyone for lacking confidence in the current regime. It's a huge year and the expectations and communication needs to be that the time is now, the playoffs need to be now, anything less is a failure. No more growth type talk as the priority, its time to win some hockey games.
it is not about you or me.. It is about the 90% casual fan..
I have no idea what you're going for here. That's up to the organization to figure out the money part and I assume the new owner is confident having spent almost 1 billion for it.
they sold for 900 M. They have debts of 400 M... they made 500 M.. plus retain 10%
I'm going to be honest and just say that this is a subject I'm mostly bowing out on now. I supported #MelnykOut for my own reasons and I think they spent at a level and provided a product that the attendance reflected, and below cap floor spending helped make up for lack of revenue. Either way, its up to these big money folk to figure all this out, not the regular joe like me. I just hope we have a guy that doesn't run around pissing everyone off.
Beech just gets really fn high and starts typing.
6 D is not enough depth to make a run. It also assumes that Hamonic and Branny return, both of which are not assured. And Lassi/JBD are unproven in playoff style hockey as next men up. I like the look of our top 4 a lot. But series are won and lost with depth, and it's often said you need 8 or so competent D to make a run. Moves need to be made this summer to make that happen. Not impossible, but we are not there.
Ha. Well, ya, definitely nothing wrong with that. I do the same sometimes.
I mean the sens have had a successful rebuild in this franchises history. We literally witnessed it. They didnt win a cup but they built a perennial contender that made the playoffs for 11 straight seasons. I have a feeling most fans that post here didnt witness it considering how many dont think picks are valuable at this point. That version of the sens never burned assets they continually drafted until Muckler got here and thats when it ended. You need a constant stream of draft and developed talent to continue to be competitive. This management group has already moved away from that and they havent even made the playoffs. I cant believe with how many massive losses Dorion has had on the trade front anyone thinks he has succeeded. There is a very long list of misses to go with 6 years of not making the playoffs and having a bottom 10 prospect pool. That is without a doubt a massive fail.
Ear marks of Dorion.
why are you defensive Dude. I supported Melnyk out.
Well Pittsburgh doesn't win squat if the end up with anything other than the first selection in the 2005 draft. Luck does play a big part in winning.
I didn't mean to be defensive, just a bit confused what you were going for, and I'd made a bit of a commitment to myself to leave the Melnyk stuff in the past at this point. I thought you were arguing for him, but I see what you mean now. I'm glad the franchise should finally be in capable hands of someone willing to put their ego aside for what's best for the franchise. Should be a breath of fresh air after the toxic environment it's been stuck in. Alfie coming back will be a big symbol for positive change.
it was incredible to see a movement; form, flourish and act.
