Duclair wanted out, Balacers? Is he even in the NHL anymore?
What good Dman? Muzzin is broken,Brodie is seeming to have issues and Mccabe is a bottom pairing Dman that was a major disaster against Florida.
I don't think the issue was fitting guys into. The budget, they were deadline acquisitions and wouldn't have broke the bank, but even then, other options that cost less in dollars than Burrows were available too who wouldn't have required extending. Iginla, Vanek, Ott, Brenden Smith (D), Benn (D), Boyle, Hansel and Eaves all went that deadline and either had lower salaries or had retention bringing them lower.
I guess so, the people he has brougt in have not made sense to me . That team is slow and he seemed to bring in a bunch of junk this last deadline. Everyone seems to say they liked what he did but they got even slower.
I find ithe thought of Dubas making a big splash horrifying. With Norris back and Chychrun playing I think they will have a strong team. I don't know how or what they would add to the D, it's starting to get full already and that cap is going to get tight. I'm thinking Chabot might have to go soon if Jake keeps improving, exchanged for an upgrade on the right perhaps?
At one point on here I read that the (alleged) friction between the two started with Dorion deciding to draft Formenton instead of a Swedish D man that Alfie wanted that's never played in the NHL.
You thinking of wingels?
Yeah but they are nominated for the work they do that season though, not simply by sitting there and letting the team just do It’s thing.
Yeah, Wingels, that's the one. They say it takes about 5 years to really evaluate a GMs moves, Dorion made some bold moves in his first year as GM. Do you think those peers would still view the Zibanejad and Burrows trades or move to get Brown at the draft the same with the powers of hindsight? Seems the critics may have had a point, though even broken clock is right twice a day...
I'm not much of a hindsight guy. There's a poster here that I critize for specializing in it.
Burrows was an even better move now given that Dahlen wasn’t and still isn’t an NHLer. As for the rest, if the award was given out in hindsight PD would probably been nominated just on the strength of the EK trade! Lol.
Funny that you say hindsight the Burrows trade as a bad trade when the vast majority of those who complain about it did so when it happened. It was a divisive at best trade from the get go.
Dalen was a prospect, he had a value in trades the same way a pick does, him not turning into a player doesn't change the value he had at the time of the trade. Besides, I'd rather have a prospect bust than have to buyout a contract a year after signing it.
The day after the trade, Dorion was on 1200 and said internally we had Dahlen rated as our 8th best prospect. He pulled a deal that got some vet experience for a mid level prospect. I gather his peers like that deal too. It's the type of deal GMs like to make.
The would be vindicated though, that’s the thing with hindsight. It doesn’t vindicate you in the present because it isn’t information that you could have used in the past.
Of course it does.
This story seems to add a prospect every time you tell it, but what Dorion actually said was it hurts to move him, we had 4 or 5 guys he'll never trade, and Dahlen wasn't among them. We had a lot of good prospects at that time, nobody said Dahlen wasn't expendable, but having lots of prospects doesn't mean the ones you have have less value. We likely valued Dahlen somewhere between a 2nd and a late 1st, just like those picks, prospects at that level don't always pan out. In 2020, we had 6 picks in the first two round, doesn't mean the 6th of them wasn't worth as much as if we only had a pick per round, but it does mean we can afford to move one.
