GDT: GM#7 LA Kings vs New York Islanders @7:30 10/18/18

[kingsholygrail]

Dude. So. Empty. Tonight.

It's been two seasons since my brother gave up his season seats to get married and have a kid. I can't motivate myself to go to games like this, not because it'd be a shitty game. Sometimes it's fun to get drunk and yell hoping they can hear me from the 300s. It's getting to Staples Center that sucks and I just can't be bothered.

 

[BigKing]

Any of you guys that don't want to believe Drew is a f***ing clown bitch want to start thinking about it a little harder?

He's supposed to be a leader. He was horrible tonight. Assistant Captain with the "C" not playing tonight.

Won't answer questions. Just like when he ducks answering the bell for shit he does on the ice.

He needs a babysitter but he doesn't want one. This team will never win a thing with Doughty as a main cog if a "player's coach" is running the show.

Him not being able to do a pull up or whatever at the combine explains everything. He's just insanely talented but he needs guidance or he will just rely on his talent. It's not enough.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Any of you guys that don't want to believe Drew is a ****ing clown ***** want to start thinking about it a little harder?

He's supposed to be a leader. He was horrible tonight. Assistant Captain with the "C" not playing tonight.

Won't answer questions. Just like when he ducks answering the bell for **** he does on the ice.

He needs a babysitter but he doesn't want one. This team will never win a thing with Doughty as a main cog if a "player's coach" is running the show.

Him not being able to do a pull up or whatever at the combine explains everything. He's just insanely talented but he needs guidance or he will just rely on his talent. It's not enough.

To be fair, I don't think Kopitar is a good captain. I think neither of these players are leadership material. They're talented enigmas. Doughty has always been a loudmouth and Kopitar has always been quiet and to himself. The only real captain or leader was Brown, Quick, Williams, Mitchell, Greene, guys like that.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Did he just throw Quick under the bus?

This is so easy to predict. After a post-game presser like that from Stevens basically calling out the whole team and not including himself, HE'S FIRED! Stevens knows he's gonna get fired soon.

 

[kingsfan28]

The internet is very angry tonight. The usual suspects are getting barraged with angry tweets.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

"Martinez, on what fell apart in the third period:
I mean, you saw it. We [—-] the bed. That’s what happened."

Haha. Love Marty.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't even have the heart to stat-search right now, but I wonder how many minutes we've had to play from behind in the Stevens area. Have we had a lead this season outside the Red Wings game? Edit: forgot altogether about the MTL game. Our only two outright wins we were outchanced hard...won once with 43% CF, once with 37% CF. nice. It's nice to get results, but it's also nice to not shell up into fetal position and rely on goaltending heroics with the lead.

Last season's 3rd period goal differential was a nice badge of honor in resilience but you shouldn't have to play from behind in every game either.

 

[Seventyx7]

I don't even have the heart to stat-search right now, but I wonder how many minutes we've had to play from behind in the Stevens area. Have we had a lead this season outside the Red Wings game?

Last season's 3rd period goal differential was a nice badge of honor in resilience but you shouldn't have to play from behind in every game either.

Maybe we do have an identity after all under JS. Not ever being ready to start a game.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Maybe we do have an identity after all under JS. Not ever being ready to start a game.

Spot the other team a small lead, take the game over slowly from behind.

C O N F U S I O N

 

[Herby]

This is a combination of horrific coaching and the the chickens coming home to roost on the Kings laughably poor drafting over the years. The Kings had a great run but Brown (2003), Quick (2005), Kopitar (2005) and Doughty (2008) were drafted so long ago and the system just makes it really hard to keep contending when you whiff and trade away picks. If they wanted to keep this going they would have had to found a 1st liner or top pairing defenseman between when they took Doughty in 2008 and sometime in the middle of this decade, that is the huge age void on the Kings and it shows with the roster this year.

Stevens is fine as an assistant coach but he is in over his head at the NHL level, but even so, firing Stevens tomorrow and replacing him with the best coach in the world is not going to make this team any good. They are I believe the oldest team in the league and there are just holes everywhere, they aren't good defensively or offensively and all our best players are past their primes years, it's only going to get worse for everyone of significance Doughty, Quick, Carter, DD, Martinez, Muzzin, Kopitar.

Bookmark your favorite YouTube highlights from 2012 and 2014, try and remember the good times, because if Blake and Luc continue trying to put lipstick on this pig it's going to be a 6-8 years before this team contends again.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

They're delaying the inevitable at this point, I think it's been clear since 2016 that this team needs a rebuild. I dont think I trust Luc and Blake to oversee it though.

 

[deaderhead28]

Steven's has lost this team and listening to his press conference explains it.He needs to be fired.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

For all those who thought "The Kings can never truly suck as long as they have Quick, Doughty, and Kopitar", John Stevens is about to prove you wrong

 

[Jason Squirties]

Lol stoll doesn’t remember their day game record. Cocaine is a hell of a drug...

Yeah, LOL man, totally. We'll just turn a blind Eye Afallo.

 

[Jason Squirties]

For all those who thought "The Kings can never truly suck as long as they have Quick, Doughty, and Kopitar", John Stevens is about to prove you wrong

I'm just going to pretend that Helene Elliot said this.

 

[Jason Squirties]

what questions are there to answer after a 7-2 loss or a season this bad? I respect Martinez and Pearson sticking around but I dont have a problem if others know the **** hit the fan and want to leave and brood on it. it's hard to determine if players dont care and and dont talk cause it's easier or if they are struggling with the losses and are trying to deal with it the best they can

Life Coach Riznat right here : don't play him in racquetball, he will probably beat you.

 

[kingsfan28]

In hockey, do they call it the golden sombrero when a player gets 3 penalties?

 

[deaderhead28]

If the players are this traumatic over a loss that they hide from the media,maybe Kings organization should build crying booths in their stalls and take a portable crying booth on the road after games to deal with the anxiety.Players need to man up,fans are paying good money for season tickets and buying merchandise.They should give 100% even if they lose.

 

[deaderhead28]

Any of you guys that don't want to believe Drew is a ****ing clown ***** want to start thinking about it a little harder?

He's supposed to be a leader. He was horrible tonight. Assistant Captain with the "C" not playing tonight.

Won't answer questions. Just like when he ducks answering the bell for **** he does on the ice.

He needs a babysitter but he doesn't want one. This team will never win a thing with Doughty as a main cog if a "player's coach" is running the show.

Him not being able to do a pull up or whatever at the combine explains everything. He's just insanely talented but he needs guidance or he will just rely on his talent. It's not enough.

Well I think many of us called Doughty out as a child who shouldnt be a alternate Captain due to his childish behavior.Team needs to beg Brownie to take back the C.

 

[SherVaughn30]

For all those who thought "The Kings can never truly suck as long as they have Quick, Doughty, and Kopitar", John Stevens is about to prove you wrong

Stevens proved it as soon as became the Kings coach after Sutter! Stevens coaching philosophy doesn't work anymore. The NHL is now a game of speed and quick passing. The dump and chase/heavy fore-check/grind game, are pretty much ineffective against most teams nowadays. The Kings had no offense and were swept by Vegas, in last seasons playoffs. Generating more scoring chances, having a better transition game, attacking with more speed, being more creative in the offensive zone, and having a more consistent power play, were all aspects the Kings had to improve on during the off-season. They added Kovalchuk, which was an offensive type of player they needed since Gaborik. The problem was they still had the wrong coach for this team to move forward and be on par with the rest of the league. The Kings philosophy has fallen behind and this 7-2 loss against a team that played the night before, was bound to happen. The current roster has its flaws, but you can't fire 23 players. Stevens time is done and it only takes something as simple as an #eyetest to know a coaching change needs to be done ASAP!

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Doughty is talented as f***, the most skilled defenseman we’ve ever had, but he’s not a leader and never will be. We were winning Cups when the adults were in charge and they could put him in timeout. Doesn’t surprise me at all that he dodged the media. He’s a giant p***y.

We all know this team needs a rebuild. Consider the looming fact that we added what appears to be a 60 point Ilya Kovalchuk for nothing and will likely miss the playoffs. Yikes.

I’m assuming Stevens will be fired around game 20, we’ll have a modest winning streak soon after, and finish just outside the playoffs/first round exit. Then the same team and the same core will take the ice again in 19/20, one year older.

We won’t be seriously contending again until long after guys like Brown and Quick are retired, and Kopitar is playing some kind of depth Joe Thornton role.

 

[Sol]

It's been two seasons since my brother gave up his season seats to get married and have a kid. I can't motivate myself to go to games like this, not because it'd be a ****ty game. Sometimes it's fun to get drunk and yell hoping they can hear me from the 300s. It's getting to Staples Center that sucks and I just can't be bothered.

Yeah seriously, I live about 15 mins away from LA but rarely drive down there unless absolutely necessary. I live near burbank and the last thing I want to do is go there.

If the players are this traumatic over a loss that they hide from the media,maybe Kings organization should build crying booths in their stalls and take a portable crying booth on the road after games to deal with the anxiety.Players need to man up,fans are paying good money for season tickets and buying merchandise.They should give 100% even if they lose.

Now that you mention it, they definitely seem traumatized.

Doughty is talented as ****, the most skilled defenseman we’ve ever had, but he’s not a leader and never will be. We were winning Cups when the adults were in charge and they could put him in timeout. Doesn’t surprise me at all that he dodged the media. He’s a giant *****.

We all know this team needs a rebuild. Consider the looming fact that we added what appears to be a 60 point Ilya Kovalchuk for nothing and will likely miss the playoffs. Yikes.

I’m assuming Stevens will be fired around game 20, we’ll have a modest winning streak soon after, and finish just outside the playoffs/first round exit. Then the same team and the same core will take the ice again in 19/20, one year older.

We won’t be seriously contending again until long after guys like Brown and Quick are retired, and Kopitar is playing some kind of depth Joe Thornton role.

Weird that I completely agree with you. I still think though if the Kings make some good moves they and staffing changes they can push for a cup for a couple years before the window officially gets closed.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Yeah seriously, I live about 15 mins away from LA but rarely drive down there unless absolutely necessary. I live near burbank and the last thing I want to do is go there.




Now that you mention it, they definitely seem traumatized.



Weird that I completely agree with you. I still think though if the Kings make some good moves they and staffing changes they can push for a cup for a couple years before the window officially gets closed.

It's possible, as the Caps did such that. The problem is the Kings don't have the offensive pieces. The more important thing for the Kings right now is to minimize the damage(Stevens), hire a coach to finish the season, evaluate how the team wants to build their roster for the future. Then decide if the interim coach or another coach is their future. The Kings still have solid goaltending and a still fairly good d-men group, but they need to be more aggressive offensively.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Only the Kings would finally score on the PP and the story of the game is getting blown out by another lottery team.

 

[KingsFan7824]

They've been rebuilding since losing to the Sharks in 2016. They're just not tanking, because they can't. If you want to lament the loss of Cernak, ok, but they haven't done much since April 2016. I don't know what the deal was for Pacioretty, but it's a good thing they couldn't make it work out. His 1 goal and point wouldn't be helping anything either, and whatever Blake would've given up to get him would be getting him calls to be fired himself.

The best thing for the Kings to do right now is nothing. If you want to fire Stevens, whatever. The last time they did that in season, they brought in a guy who was essentially retired, who was a friend of the GM. Who is the magic coach that will turn things around? Past mistakes are past mistakes, and there's nothing to be done about those. There's no reason to force anything today. "Shake up" trades aren't really a thing anymore. The cap is too important for that. They haven't been a tight defensive team for years, even going back into 13-14, regardless of what the GA may have been all this time.

The problem is they have no expiring contracts worth anything. They don't have a McDonagh to trade. Muzzin isn't that good. Martinez isn't that good. Martinez is a 3rd pair defenseman that needs a Matt Greene shield, and Muzzin is weird. If you get the right deal, by all means. That deal probably isn't going to happen in October though.

Let this play out. There's no rush anymore. This isn't a few months after a Cup win. They have their pick. No reason to make a trade just to do it, even if you could. The less Blake does in that regard right now, the better. Which is basically what's been happening since the SJ loss. Even Lombardi did nothing after that for a year. When Quick went down, did he do anything about it? No. He plugged in the 30+ year old minor league guy. Rebuilding without purposeful tanking.