Value of: Getting Matt Murray out of Toronto

[Gabe Kupari]

23 year old Erik karlsson locked in to a 6 x 6.5 deal? Maybe

You gonna have to accept that Treliving wants Erik and is drawing a line in the sand with William. Toronto can put muzzin on ltir I guess but also need to shed a bit more space.

This trade does it. Sounds like SJ tho might only be interested in futures tho

 

[Michoulicious]

Unless they have an arbitration case coming up there won’t be a buyout window for them. That ship sailed. Not to mention like I said, no chance they carry the $2m next year

Samsonov?

 

[Nylanderthal]

You gonna have to accept that Treliving wants Erik and is drawing a line in the sand with William. Toronto can put muzzin on ltir I guess but also need to shed a bit more space.

This trade does it. Sounds like SJ tho might only be interested in futures tho

They’re not trading nylander++ for 33yo karlsson @ 11.5x4. Go to sleep

 

[cyris]

Unless they have an arbitration case coming up there won’t be a buyout window for them. That ship sailed. Not to mention like I said, no chance they carry the $2m next year

And if Samsonov files or they trade for a player that did they will have a second window.
But no I don’t think they buy him out.

 

[Laoghaire]

And you’re counting on a player filing for arbitration for this?

Are you confident Samsonov will file by Wednesday at 5pm? If not, kiss your window goodbye.

There's club elected as well no?

 

[KevinRedkey]

It's 4.000 in actual dollars if a team buys him out. The cost should be about a 2nd

I was mistaken before when I thought it was 6.000 as that's his salry without a buyout.

 

[spockBokk]

There's club elected as well no?

Deadline passed

 

[Michoulicious]

It's 4.000 in actual dollars if a team buys him out. The cost should be about a 2nd

I was mistaken before when I thought it was 6.000 as that's his salry without a buyout.

4 millions USD is a lot of money, I'd say it would cost more than a 2nd... Could be wrong.

 

[wankstifier]

They need to be bailed out.

 

[ffh]

Robidas island awaits Murray.

 

[KevinRedkey]

4 millions USD is a lot of money, I'd say it would cost more than a 2nd... Could be wrong.

Zaitsev cost a 2nd and a 4th and was owed 4.500 this year + whatever he was owed when traded last year (so probably ~5.000 in total dollars). That, and he carried a much larger cap hit than a Murray buy-out.

A 2nd seems both fair and realistic IMO

 

[wankstifier]

Zaitsev cost a 2nd and a 4th and was owed 4.500 this year + whatever he was owed when traded last year (so probably ~5.000 in total dollars). That, and he carried a much larger cap hit than a Murray buy-out.

A 2nd seems both fair and realistic IMO

They don't have a 2nd. The 2024 1st would be the target, no?

 

[Seattle King]

LTIR is the Promised Land.

You should probably give Jeff Gillooly Stone a call, last I heard he was in Portland, OR.

 

[Michoulicious]

They don't have a 2nd. The 2024 1st would be the target, no?

Maybe something around Murray + 2024 1st for a 3rd or a 4th?

 

[shaner8989]

3rd and a 6th was the cost to dump 2 years.

Can't be higher than that for 1 year. Worst case a buyout solves the problem this year

Don’t tell people that. So many morons around here saying 1st 2nd plus blah blah. Idiots have no clue.

It might cost the leafs a 4th or they will find a way to LTIR him.

 

[Michoulicious]

It's 4.000 in actual dollars if a team buys him out. The cost should be about a 2nd

I was mistaken before when I thought it was 6.000 as that's his salry without a buyout.

But a team that trades for a player right now won't be able to buy him out, no?

They'll have to pay the full salary I think.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I think it won't take more than a second. Maybe less. I can't see why Anaheim isn't the ones to do it. They need a goalie anyway, and have tons of cap space. heck, they aren't even at the floor yet.

3rd and a 6th was the cost to dump 2 years.

Can't be higher than that for 1 year. Worst case a buyout solves the problem this year

It cost the Islanders a future 2nd rounder to get out of Bailey's deal and Murray makes about the same with the same term. That's probably going to be the cost to get out of his deal as well.

2nd + Murray for future considerations. I'd pay a 2nd just to get rid of him.

It was a 3 &7 last year with 2 years left. It’ll be around that this year. None of this crazy 1st + nonsense you see in the peanut gallery here

Murray is owed 8M in real dollars. 6M after what Ottawa is eating.

I don't think many owners will get behind spending that for a second rounder. 6 million dollars in real cash isn't light, now factor in his 10 team ntc.

 

[KevinRedkey]

They don't have a 2nd. The 2024 1st would be the target, no?

It would be the target but that's a lot to pay honestly.

Maybe Fraser Minten? He was their 2nd rounder (38th overall) last year. IDk anything about him but I assume he has the value of roughly a 2nd, but less than a 1st?

 

[TheScandal89]

No chance, they’re not carrying $2m dead weight next year when they need nylander and Matthews extension money along with a new deal for liljegren and replacements for Brodie klingberg gio domi lafferty Bertuzzi.

I didnt want to but they backed themselves into a corner capwise to improve the team. If we gotta attach another 1st to him like the Marleau Trade, or we trade a 1st + Murray for a later pick then it might not be worth it.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Murray is owed 8M in real dollars. 6M after what Ottawa is eating.

I don't think many owners will get behind spending that for a second rounder. 6 million dollars in real cash isn't light.

Yeah but if they buy him out, isn't it only 2/3 making it 4.000?

 

[Sun God Nika]

Yeah but if they buy him out, isn't it only 2/4 making it 4.000?

If they buy him out its a lot less for sure. Leaf fans dont wanna buy him out because of the cap penalty next year. I think buyout is the only option tbh.

 

[MAB1]

Murray has a 10 team NTC so he has some say in where he goes

Most of those teams are probably Canadian teams anyways so that doesn't matter much. They'll find a taker, and it won't cost a 1st or a good prospect.

 

[Michoulicious]

Yeah but if they buy him out, isn't it only 2/3 making it 4.000?

They can't buy him out, only Leafs can at this time if there is arbitration.

 

[KevinRedkey]

They can't buy him out, only Leafs can at this time if there is arbitration.

Ohhh I didnt know that.

Why is that??

 

[Michoulicious]

Ohhh I didnt know that.

Why is that??

"If a team has a player go to arbitration and it is either settled or awarded, the team receives a new 48-hour buyout window beginning 3 days after the arbitration settlement or award. The only contracts that are eligible to be bought out in this window are for players with Cap Hits greater than $4M and they were on the team's roster at the last trade deadline."

Murray was on Toronto's roster, then only Toronto can buy him out.