Value of: Getting Matt Murray out of Toronto

[Michoulicious]

Toronto doesn’t have one.

Yup, gone in the McCabe trade if I recall. They only have 2 picks in first 2 rounds of the next 3 years (2024 1st, 2026 1st).

 

[Guided by Veseys]

Send him to Anaheim with Nick Robertson

 

[Michoulicious]

LTIR.

I heard when he arrives, Lupul is on the welcoming committee.

He was not on LTIR in the playoffs... They just took Woll.

 

[BlueSeal]

How far in the future can you trade a pick? Next Leafs 2nd rounder is in 2027.

Hmm, good point. I'd trade it.

AFAIK and someone please do correct me if I'm wrong here, but there isn't any limit to how far in the future you can go to trade a pick, so you could probably trade a 2027 pick and be fine.

 

[LeafChief]

He was not on LTIR in the playoffs... They just took Woll.

I didn't say LTIR in the playoffs. There is no salary cap in the playoffs. I said LTIR for next season.

 

[Michoulicious]

I didn't say LTIR in the playoffs. There is no salary cap in the playoffs. I said LTIR for next season.

And how will he get injured? A mysterious allergy to his jockstrap?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Don't forget, you can't buy out an injured player.

 

[LeafChief]

And how will he get injured? A mysterious allergy to his jockstrap?

Are you familiar with his body of work over the last few years? He has had many nagging, re-occurring injuries.

 

[cyris]

And you’re counting on a player filing for arbitration for this?

Are you confident Samsonov will file by Wednesday at 5pm? If not, kiss your window goodbye.

Why wouldn’t he file?
And I don’t know if it was changed in the last CBA but previous if you traded for the rights of a player who filed for arbitration it still counted

 

[tomd]

I have no faith in Verbeek to be aggressive but Gibson could be the key to a lot of moves. If Gibson is traded that could open the door for Murray to move to Anaheim. The cost would be high but there aren't going to be many takers for Murray. Chicago is probably the only other realistic option and the cost would be just as high from their perspective as well.

 

[cyris]

Don't forget, you can't buy out an injured player.

He was cleared to return. So unless he got a hockey related injury without playing any hockey we should be fine there

 

[Nylanderthal]

It was a 3 &7 last year with 2 years left. It’ll be around that this year. None of this crazy 1st + nonsense you see in the peanut gallery here

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

Hmm, good point. I'd trade it.

AFAIK and someone please do correct me if I'm wrong here, but there isn't any limit to how far in the future you can go to trade a pick, so you could probably trade a 2027 pick and be fine.

I always thought it was three years.

 

[TheScandal89]

The more desperate TO gets the higher the cost. They should just buyout Murray.

They might have to at this point

 

[Nylanderthal]

He was cleared to return. So unless he got a hockey related injury without playing any hockey we should be fine there

Team doctors shouldn’t have much of a problem not clearing a guy with his medical track record. I think he’s simply banished to robidas island.

 

[Master P]

There is a way...

 

[Nylanderthal]

And how will he get injured? A mysterious allergy to his jockstrap?

Knowing Murray? Getting out of the wrong side of bed should just about do the trick and send him on a 5 month rehab stint

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Nylander Murray Knies 1st 24 to San Jose for Erik Karlsson. 33 percent retained

 

[Nylanderthal]

They might have to at this point

No chance, they’re not carrying $2m dead weight next year when they need nylander and Matthews extension money along with a new deal for liljegren and replacements for Brodie klingberg gio domi lafferty Bertuzzi.

 

[red devil]

Murray has a 10 team NTC so he has some say in where he goes

 

[Michoulicious]

Nylander Murray Knies 1st 24 to San Jose for Erik. 33 percent retained

Stop, you're drunk.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Nylander Murray Knies 1st 24 to San Jose for Erik. 33 percent retained

23 year old Erik karlsson locked in to a 6 x 6.5 deal? Maybe

 

[Michoulicious]

Murray has a 10 team NTC so he has some say in where he goes

Really? Didn't know that. That certainly complicates things.

Buyout after arbitration looks more and more likely.

 

[cyris]

Team doctors shouldn’t have much of a problem not clearing a guy with his medical track record. I think he’s simply banished to robidas island.

Yeah I’m not saying they can’t get him on LTIR. I think any veteran player in the league could probably qualify.
But it wouldn’t stop them from buying him out if they wanted to

 

[Nylanderthal]

Yeah I’m not saying they can’t get him on LTIR. I think any veteran player in the league could probably qualify.
But it wouldn’t stop them from buying him out if they wanted to

Unless they have an arbitration case coming up there won’t be a buyout window for them. That ship sailed. Not to mention like I said, no chance they carry the $2m next year