Player Discussion Gerard Gallant

[Crease]

What coach gets a response out of his team 100% of the time? Seems like an unnecessarily high standard.

 

[cwede]

Igor. People like to spew these things as if the Rangers points total isn’t 90% because of the goaltender.

Haha, you indulge in drastic flamethrowing, but responders are 'spewing'? OK, sure

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Haha, you indulge in drastic flamethrowing, but responders are 'spewing'? OK, sure

Yes that’s what you did. The Rangers are where they are because of Igor. Has zero to do with anything Gallant is doing. If anything Igor has counteracted Gallants self sabotaging.

 

[haveandare]

What coach gets a response out of his team 100% of the time? Seems like an unnecessarily high standard.

But then what will we self righteously complain about?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

What coach gets a response out of his team 100% of the time? Seems like an unnecessarily high standard.

Just some of the time would suffice. How about after completely shutting the bed against the Islanders, getting called horseshit and then following that up with another horseshit performance against a worse team? A response after that first game is according to you too much to ask?

 

[Crease]

Just some of the time would suffice. How about after completely shutting the bed against the Islanders, getting called horseshit and then following that up with another horseshit performance against a worse team? A response after that first game is according to you too much to ask?

This is not the gotcha you think it is. Would I liked to have seen a bounce-back from the Islanders to Flyers? Of course. But the failure to bounce back yesterday isn’t proof that Gallant is a shit coach who has never had the ear of the players. Just to use one recent example, the team went on a four game winning streak after a disappointing performance against the Devils. You said, “I don't think they've ever even tuned this guy in, let alone tuned him out.” I disagree. I disagree based on their record, their record against playoff teams, their lack of prolonged slumps, and reports that the players love playing for the guy.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This is not the gotcha you think it is. Would I liked to have seen a bounce-back from the Islanders to Flyers? Of course. But the failure to bounce back yesterday isn’t proof that Gallant is a shit coach who has never had the ear of the players. You said, “I don't think they've ever even tuned this guy in, let alone tuned him out.” I disagree. I disagree based on their record, their record against playoff teams, their lack of prolonged slumps, and reports that the players love playing for the guy.

The Rangers have had one 3 game losing streak all season, two of the losses being OT losses in that stretch. They're allowed an 0-1-1 stretch even if it's GASP against bad teams. What about the stretch of us winning our last 4 games against strong playoff teams?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is not the gotcha you think it is. Would I liked to have seen a bounce-back from the Islanders to Flyers? Of course. But the failure to bounce back yesterday isn’t proof that Gallant is a shit coach who has never had the ear of the players. You said, “I don't think they've ever even tuned this guy in, let alone tuned him out.” I disagree. I disagree based on their record, their record against playoff teams, their lack of prolonged slumps, and reports that the players love playing for the guy.

So then explain to me how last night happens. Play shitty, get called out, play shitty again. Doesn't sound to me like a team that took his "horseshit" comment to heart. On the same note, Gallant did absolutely nothing to make sure his team was ready to play that game the right way. Nothing was corrected. Nothing was changed.

Oh, and this isn't a one off. Many, many times this season he has not prepared his team to play. Their record, including all of those specifics you mentioned has little, if anything, to do with Gallant's coaching and almost everything to do with Igor Shesterkin. It is absolutely no coincidence at all that Igor's shitty play has coincided with losses, or that Georgievs routinely shitty play routinely results in losses.

Of course they love playing for the guy. The boys love him, he's a players coach. So they know they can get away with this shit. That's why he's never been successful, and never will be.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

The Rangers have had one 3 game losing streak all season, two of the losses being OT losses in that stretch. They're allowed an 0-1-1 stretch even if it's GASP against bad teams. What about the stretch of us winning our last 4 games against strong playoff teams?

 

[Crease]

So then explain to me how last night happens. Play shitty, get called out, play shitty again. Doesn't sound to me like a team that took his "horseshit" comment to heart. On the same note, Gallant did absolutely nothing to make sure his team was ready to play that game the right way. Nothing was corrected. Nothing was changed.

Oh, and this isn't a one off. Many, many times this season he has not prepared his team to play. Their record, including all of those specifics you mentioned has little, if anything, to do with Gallant's coaching and almost everything to do with Igor Shesterkin.

Of course they love playing for the guy. The boys love him, he's a players coach. So they know they can get away with this shit. That's why he's never been successful, and never will be.

I don’t know, maybe Igor had a tummy ache? They outshot the Flyers 2 to 1. My tummy ache theory holds as much water as your Gallant is a horrible coach theory, based on the record in front of us.

 

[17futurecap]

We are thankful Igor scored 3 goals vs Pitt in the first four minutes of the game, and also single handily allowed Pittsburgh a total of 45 shots in two games scoring all 8 goals for them and allowing Pit to score 3.

 

[Rydgar]

So then explain to me how last night happens. Play shitty, get called out, play shitty again. Doesn't sound to me like a team that took his "horseshit" comment to heart. On the same note, Gallant did absolutely nothing to make sure his team was ready to play that game the right way. Nothing was corrected. Nothing was changed.

Oh, and this isn't a one off. Many, many times this season he has not prepared his team to play. Their record, including all of those specifics you mentioned has little, if anything, to do with Gallant's coaching and almost everything to do with Igor Shesterkin. It is absolutely no coincidence at all that Igor's shitty play has coincided with losses, or that Georgievs routinely shitty play routinely results in losses.

Of course they love playing for the guy. The boys love him, he's a players coach. So they know they can get away with this shit. That's why he's never been successful, and never will be.

Stanley Cup Finals nor considered successful? And he took one of the worst teams on paper there. Coaches are not magicians.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don’t know, maybe Igor had a tummy ache? They outshot the Flyers 2 to 1. My tummy ache theory holds as much water as your Gallant is a horrible coach theory, based on the record in front of us.

I know wasn't exactly even keeled yesterday myself but it's amazing how quickly the narrative turned from they can't beat good teams to they can't beat bad teams. Basically covering all of the bases for every loss.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I don’t know, maybe Igor had a tummy ache? They outshot the Flyers 2 to 1. My tummy ache theory holds as much water as your Gallant is a horrible coach theory, based on the record in front of us.

The outshot the Islanders too, and that was the horseshit game. Outshot or not, they Rangers played one decent period and still lost to one of the worst teams in the league. Igor not playing well proves my point - their record is a product of superior goaltending and little else.

Should be very simple to answer the question though, that is if you can. Why would this team follow up one shit performance with another after getting called out like that?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Stanley Cup Finals nor considered successful? And he took one of the worst teams on paper there. Coaches are not magicians.

Did he win? They lost in 5 games. He followed that up with a first round loss and then he was fired mid-season.

He has a shelf life of two and half seasons with every team he's been with. That's for a reason.

 

[Crease]

The outshot the Islanders too, and that was the horseshit game. Outshot or not, they Rangers played one decent period and still lost to one of the worst teams in the league. Igor not playing well proves my point - their record is a product of superior goaltending and little else.

Should be very simple to answer the question though, that is if you can. Why would this team follow up one shit performance with another after getting called out like that?

I think it’s because of tummy aches, girlfriend problems, or because Mika was playing bad music in the locker room before the game.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I think it’s because of tummy aches, girlfriend problems, or because Mika was playing bad music in the locker room before the game.

No surprise you refuse to answer this, because you know it disproves your whole "GERARD GALLANT IS THE BEST COACH EVER" narrative.

The excuses people make for this loser are incredible.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

We are thankful Igor scored 3 goals vs Pitt in the first four minutes of the game, and also single handily allowed Pittsburgh a total of 45 shots in two games scoring all 8 goals for them and allowing Pit to score 3.

They certainly played well in those games - So did Igor.

Isn't is crazy that when he DOESN'T play well, they almost always lose? Isn't that CRAZY?

There have been way more games this year where Igor has saved their ass then the two Pens games which are blips on the radar for this team.

 

[Cuckoo4Kakko]

Everyone here is right. GG is liked by the guys, particularly the vets who he favors. Igor has played a large role in our success. GG has still done many things right.

BENCHING LAF AT THE END OF EVERY GAME ISN'T IT. Fix that and don't make stupid decisions with Kakko and i'll happily jump on the GG bandwagon.

 

[Crease]

No surprise you refuse to answer this, because you know it disproves your whole "GERARD GALLANT IS THE BEST COACH EVER" narrative.

The excuses people make for this loser are incredible.

I am answering it. There are so many variables that go into team performance. Hate to ask, but have you ever played team sports at a high level. Junior? College? Pro? I wonder, based on your absolutisms.

Best coach? Never said that. You are proclaiming that two bad games in a row despite being called out = bad coach. That is asinine. By that standard, there are no good coaches in the league.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I am answering it. There are so many variables that go into team performance. Hate to ask, but have you ever played team sports at a high level. Junior? College? Pro? I wonder, based on your absolutisms.

Best coach? Never said that. You are proclaiming that two bad games in a row despite being called out = bad coach. That is asinine. By that standard, there are no good coaches in the league.

Yeah, these games are just a blip on the radar. They played these same games against NJ, Buffalo, Detroit and now against the Islanders and Flyers. Not one of those is a regulation win. Those games are a lot more common than the Penguin ones.

You’re dodging it completely. Joke answering is not answering it. This team has "not responded" like this before this season. Now it’s doing it at the end of the year. If Gallant had any sway over this team at all they would have shit stomped that Flyers team last night. Why would a team that is coached so well as you say they are respond like that? You can’t answer it.

You seem to think he’s genius coach or something because Igor has the team where they are. Can you point to what exactly Gallant has done this season to get them to where they are? What does he actually coach? Can you even answer that?

The only difference between this team and last years team is a Vezina candidate between the pipes. That’s it. They were a bubble team the last two Quinn seasons. They’d be a bubble team or worse this season without Igor’s heroics.

 

[Larrybiv]

Changing subject. Really hope GG is considering sitting Foxy a game. Tonight would be best shot to do so. He really looks like he needs a game off. Let him re-set. Give Braun his slot and get HIM ready for PO's.

 

[Anthony5967]

Changing subject. Really hope GG is considering sitting Foxy a game. Tonight would be best shot to do so. He really looks like he needs a game off. Let him re-set. Give Braun his slot and get HIM ready for PO's.

This whole resting Adam Fox thing and making excuses that he's tired is ridiculous. He's 24 years old. Cale Makar and Devon Toews are playing 27-28 minutes a night. Fox isn't playing nearly that much. If he's truly as good as we pumped him up to be, this excuse is truly getting to be ridiculous now, with no bias whatsoever.

 

[McRanger92]

This whole resting Adam Fox thing and making excuses that he's tired is ridiculous. He's 24 years old. Cale Makar and Devon Toews are playing 27-28 minutes a night. Fox isn't playing nearly that much. If he's truly as good as we pumped him up to be, this excuse is truly getting to be ridiculous now, with no bias whatsoever.

I think he's nursing an injury that's limiting his ability to shoot, hence why he is holding onto it so long leading to turnovers. I feel he's been quite good, especially in the "playoff atmosphere" type games when he simplifies. He'll adjust and be fine, the guy is a star player.

 

[TominNC]

The takes on this thread are too much. So overboard.