Player Discussion Georgii Merkulov

[Smitty93]

It's reminds me of when some people talk about how great a player did in a game by telling you about two stick checks, and a time they made a smart play. I would call that doing the bare minimum of their job.

I hope he ends up being a good player, but if being realistic, how many great undrafted college forwards have there been in the last 10-15 years? Chris Kunitz might be the best undrafted college fa forward in 20 years.

I would argue the chances of getting something good from a college FA is FAR FAR FAR lower than a first round pick. They are more like second to fourth round picks.

I took a look at this the other day and the best ones are mostly middle-6ers. Bozak, Iafallo, Sheary, and Vatrano are a few of the better ones.

 

[finchster]

Doesn’t have to be. It’s just a nice no risk signing.

If someone asked me if I wanted a free draft pick from the 2-7th round, I would take it every time. That's how I view this, it is kind of a free draft pick from 2-4th round. I hope it works out,

 

[Kegs]

If someone asked me if I wanted a free draft pick from the 2-7th round, I would take it every time. That's how I view this, it is kind of a free draft pick from 2-4th round. I hope it works out,

I haven’t watched him personally. But his stat lines indicate he would be aprox second to third round pick? He kinda small which might push him back to the third round? I dunno I guess that’s why he went undrafted tho. He is like 165 lbs. real small for an nhl player that’s for sure.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I haven’t watched him personally. But his stat lines indicate he would be aprox second to third round pick? He kinda small which might push him back to the third round? I dunno I guess that’s why he went undrafted tho. He is like 165 lbs. real small for an nhl player that’s for sure.

Elite Prospects has him at 181 lbs.

 

[Kegs]

I took a look at this the other day and the best ones are mostly middle-6ers. Bozak, Iafallo, Sheary, and Vatrano are a few of the better ones.

Krug and zuccarelo pardon my spelling were undrafted college players I believe. But they may be in the league longer than ten years. Give or take.

 

[22Brad Park]

Vatrano lighting is up is more proof if you don't play Bruins system they could care less if you can score goals Bruins brass is 100% sold on the system so Merkulov will need to learn it and play it to .

 

[ON3M4N]

Krug and zuccarelo pardon my spelling were undrafted college players I believe. But they may be in the league longer than ten years. Give or take.

I don't think Zuc played NCAA hockey.

 

[bruinsfan1968]

I don't think Zuc played NCAA hockey.

He played mostly in Norway and other International Leagues, nothing in the US until he played in the AHL.

 

[22Brad Park]

I don't think Zuc played NCAA hockey.

He played for Modo and Mettalurg right u are

 

[Smitty93]

Krug and zuccarelo pardon my spelling were undrafted college players I believe. But they may be in the league longer than ten years. Give or take.

I was responding to @finchster's post about college UDFA forwards. The list of defensemen is actually pretty good. Krug, Nate Schmidt, Chris Tanev, and Neal Pionk are a few of the recent ones.

 

[ON3M4N]

Alright so doing some digging around I was curious what the "success rate" is for undrafted NCAA players is in the NHL. By success I mean you play at least 100 games. I found an article (link below) from March that basically did what I was going to do and looked at 10yrs of data. What they found....

Though 57 percent of NCAA free agents will suit up for at least one NHL contest, only 16.7 percent make it to the 100-game mark.

While the bolded above doesn't sound too exciting of odds, its very close to the probability of a 2nd rounder playing at least 100 games in the NHL (17.2%) and better than the chances of a 3rd rounder playing 100 games in the NHL (13.7%).

The EP Rinkside 2022 NCAA free agency guide

J.D. Burke, Mitch Brown, and Catherine Silverman team up to build an exhaustive guide on the 2022 cycle's best NCAA free agents, one that offers proprietary analytics and scouting reports on each of the 40 or so players included in the piece.

eprinkside.com

I look forward to seeing how Merkulov finishes out the year and how he looks in Providence next season.

 

[22Brad Park]

Alright so doing some digging around I was curious what the "success rate" is for undrafted NCAA players is in the NHL. By success I mean you play at least 100 games. I found an article (link below) from March that basically did what I was going to do and looked at 10yrs of data. What they found....

Though 57 percent of NCAA free agents will suit up for at least one NHL contest, only 16.7 percent make it to the 100-game mark.

While the bolded above doesn't sound too exciting of odds, its very close to the probability of a 2nd rounder playing at least 100 games in the NHL (17.2%) and better than the chances of a 3rd rounder playing 100 games in the NHL (13.7%).

The EP Rinkside 2022 NCAA free agency guide

J.D. Burke, Mitch Brown, and Catherine Silverman team up to build an exhaustive guide on the 2022 cycle's best NCAA free agents, one that offers proprietary analytics and scouting reports on each of the 40 or so players included in the piece.

eprinkside.com

I look forward to seeing how Merkulov finishes out the year and how he looks in Providence next season.

He has high skill.I agree he would be equal to 1st rd pick as stated by Kirk .Best part is don't need 3 yrs to get here .

 

[BlackFrancis]

Alright so doing some digging around I was curious what the "success rate" is for undrafted NCAA players is in the NHL. By success I mean you play at least 100 games. I found an article (link below) from March that basically did what I was going to do and looked at 10yrs of data. What they found....

Though 57 percent of NCAA free agents will suit up for at least one NHL contest, only 16.7 percent make it to the 100-game mark.

While the bolded above doesn't sound too exciting of odds, its very close to the probability of a 2nd rounder playing at least 100 games in the NHL (17.2%) and better than the chances of a 3rd rounder playing 100 games in the NHL (13.7%).

The EP Rinkside 2022 NCAA free agency guide

J.D. Burke, Mitch Brown, and Catherine Silverman team up to build an exhaustive guide on the 2022 cycle's best NCAA free agents, one that offers proprietary analytics and scouting reports on each of the 40 or so players included in the piece.

eprinkside.com

I look forward to seeing how Merkulov finishes out the year and how he looks in Providence next season.

That's actually pretty interesting. All the other undrafted players (CHL, Europe) drag down that percentage quite a bit.

 

[22Brad Park]

That's actually pretty interesting. All the other undrafted players (CHL, Europe) drag down that percentage quite a bit.

 

[McGarnagle]

Can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Vatrano lighting is up is more proof if you don't play Bruins system they could care less if you can score goals Bruins brass is 100% sold on the system so Merkulov will need to learn it and play it to .

Honest question... will the Bruins continue trying to play this system when Bergeron is gone? He's the epitome of 2-way hockey, and strong down the middle. Once the Bruins lose that, I feel they may need to start playing on players strengths instead of just playing Bergeron with a bunch of Bergeron-lites.

 

[TCB]

Alright so doing some digging around I was curious what the "success rate" is for undrafted NCAA players is in the NHL. By success I mean you play at least 100 games. I found an article (link below) from March that basically did what I was going to do and looked at 10yrs of data. What they found....

Though 57 percent of NCAA free agents will suit up for at least one NHL contest, only 16.7 percent make it to the 100-game mark.

While the bolded above doesn't sound too exciting of odds, its very close to the probability of a 2nd rounder playing at least 100 games in the NHL (17.2%) and better than the chances of a 3rd rounder playing 100 games in the NHL (13.7%).

The EP Rinkside 2022 NCAA free agency guide

J.D. Burke, Mitch Brown, and Catherine Silverman team up to build an exhaustive guide on the 2022 cycle's best NCAA free agents, one that offers proprietary analytics and scouting reports on each of the 40 or so players included in the piece.

eprinkside.com

I look forward to seeing how Merkulov finishes out the year and how he looks in Boston next season.

fixed it for U

 

[finchster]

Alright so doing some digging around I was curious what the "success rate" is for undrafted NCAA players is in the NHL. By success I mean you play at least 100 games. I found an article (link below) from March that basically did what I was going to do and looked at 10yrs of data. What they found....

Though 57 percent of NCAA free agents will suit up for at least one NHL contest, only 16.7 percent make it to the 100-game mark.

While the bolded above doesn't sound too exciting of odds, its very close to the probability of a 2nd rounder playing at least 100 games in the NHL (17.2%) and better than the chances of a 3rd rounder playing 100 games in the NHL (13.7%).

The EP Rinkside 2022 NCAA free agency guide

J.D. Burke, Mitch Brown, and Catherine Silverman team up to build an exhaustive guide on the 2022 cycle's best NCAA free agents, one that offers proprietary analytics and scouting reports on each of the 40 or so players included in the piece.

eprinkside.com

I look forward to seeing how Merkulov finishes out the year and how he looks in Providence next season.

I would argue that it is probably closer to 3rd or 4th round. Even if they are as successful as a second round pick, there are no impact players like in the second round. No Aho, Hintz, Kyrou, DeBrincat, Robertson. There seems to be at least one impact forward in the second round every single year, not so much with NCAA free agents

 

[ON3M4N]

fixed it for U

Whose he bumping out of the line-up? lol

 

[Ratty]

fixed it for U

There are no guarantees of course. But with the possible retirement of Bergeron, Krejci's exit and Haula's last contract year, there will be opportunities for Georgie to take his skill set to Toronto
Dominion Garden.

 

[TCB]

Whose he bumping out of the line-up? lol

You really believe he can't slide into the Bruins mix of forwards next season and win a spot with the Bruins, with the possibility of Debrusk finally being moved, also you'll have Lazar and Blidh as UFA. The kid has skill and would be a welcome addition to the bruins and Im sure he will be given the chance to win a role right from the get-go of camp.

 

[ON3M4N]

I would argue that it is probably closer to 3rd or 4th round. Even if they are as successful as a second round pick, there are no impact players like in the second round. No Aho, Hintz, Kyrou, DeBrincat, Robertson. There seems to be at least one impact forward in the second round every single year, not so much with NCAA free agents

Possibly. Once you start factoring in "impact" of players and defining what that is, I'm sure it would change things. Not sure if anyone has ever gone to that level but it would be an interesting read.

 

[22Brad Park]

Honest question... will the Bruins continue trying to play this system when Bergeron is gone? He's the epitome of 2-way hockey, and strong down the middle. Once the Bruins lose that, I feel they may need to start playing on players strengths instead of just playing Bergeron with a bunch of Bergeron-lites.

They seem to really believe in systematic approaches and my bet is that continues.Donny has really put Bruins in a decent spot with backend & goaltending to withstand it till he can find a top 6 centre.

 

[ON3M4N]

You really believe he can't slide into the Bruins mix of forwards next season and win a spot with the Bruins, with the possibility of Debrusk finally being moved, also you'll have Lazar and Blidh as UFA. The kid has skill and would be a welcome addition to the bruins and Im sure he will be given the chance to win a role right from the get-go of camp.

I'm not saying he "can't" but I find it highly unlikely. Before any trades (and assuming Bergeron re-signs)...

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Hall - Haula - Pastrnak
Frederic - Coyle - Smith
Foligno - Nosek - McLaughlin

Boston typically doesn't play skilled guys on the 4th line, so I'm not sure he finds a spot there. I don't see Boston trading DeBrusk for anything short of a piece that helps this team now. Let also remember that Merkulov will be waiver exempt unlike some other guys he'll be compete for a spot against.

Again I'm not saying he can't make the team next year, but I don't expect him to make the team out of camp next year. Could he be an in-season call up? sure depending on how he's playing.

 

[False Start]

I'm not saying he "can't" but I find it highly unlikely. Before any trades (and assuming Bergeron re-signs)...

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Hall - Haula - Pastrnak
Frederic - Coyle - Smith
Foligno - Nosek - McLaughlin

Boston typically doesn't play skilled guys on the 4th line, so I'm not sure he finds a spot there. I don't see Boston trading DeBrusk for anything short of a piece that helps this team now. Let also remember that Merkulov will be waiver exempt unlike some other guys he'll be compete for a spot against.

Again I'm not saying he can't make the team next year, but I don't expect him to make the team out of camp next year. Could he be an in-season call up? sure depending on how he's playing.

Heck even McLaughlin should probably get full time in Providence for a year.

Him and Merkulov should develop for a year. Call them up in season if necessary due to injuries.

Studnicka and Steen will rotate 13th forward duties.