Player Discussion Georgii Merkulov

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time

I’m certainly no expert but it was probably a size + weird developmental path thing

Kid is clearly talented though
 
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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time
our consensus number 2 prospect Lohrei went undrafted his first year and is also 21. kids develop at different speeds. let's hope we got lucky with this signing
 

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Bruins have historically stayed away from Russians but went after this kid 🤔 He must be good.I liked what I saw from him when I had chance to see Ohio State play but that's just a guy on a sofa's opinion not an actual pro scout who is there live.I feel good about this kid though.
 
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Bruins have historically stayed away from Russians but went after this kid 🤔 He must be good.I liked what I saw from him when I had chance to see Ohio State play but that's just a guy on a sofa's opinion not an actual pro scout who is there live.I feel good about this kid though.

I like what I see... but will temper expectations for now

I also thought Koko was going to become a regular nhler/2nd line player. But it didnt workout.
 

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time
There’s dozens of reasons why someone might not get drafted despite the talent. I agree with Kirk on this, full-stop— Merkulov is a first-round talent. That’s not saying he should have been a first-round pick three years ago, just that his talent level is that of a first-round pick. He was overlooked and the bruins reap the benefits as a result.

For argument sake, where is the hypothetical first-round pick? Can we use Boston’s as a benchmark?

Let’s say Anaheim called and offered Boston’s first back for Merkulov, right? I’m absolutely saying no. Merkulov is only 21, just scored 20 as a freshman in the NCAA and is now showing he’s capable of doing it in the professional ranks. He’s three years older than a first-round pick and has the production/development curve of what you’d hope for.

He’s an established commodity and available right now. Why trade him for another question mark that’s three years+ away?
 

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There’s dozens of reasons why someone might not get drafted despite the talent. I agree with Kirk on this, full-stop— Merkulov is a first-round talent. That’s not saying he should have been a first-round pick three years ago, just that his talent level is that of a first-round pick. He was overlooked and the bruins reap the benefits as a result.

For argument sake, where is the hypothetical first-round pick? Can we use Boston’s as a benchmark?

Let’s say Anaheim called and offered Boston’s first back for Merkulov, right? I’m absolutely saying no. Merkulov is only 21, just scored 20 as a freshman in the NCAA and is now showing he’s capable of doing it in the professional ranks. He’s three years older than a first-round pick and has the production/development curve of what you’d hope for.

He’s an established commodity and available right now. Why trade him for another question mark that’s three years+ away?

BN with all the positives... what are some areas of improvements? I didnt see yesterday game

Could he improve his skating? Was he good along the boards?
 

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time

Given his birthday he was only eligible twice. the first season would have been the 2019 draft, when he played the 18/19 season in the MHL Kapitan team, and had a good, but not sure great year. the second year would have been the season ended erarly by covid, and he played in 3 leagues that year including Youngstown and he was good, but not quite good enough to get drafted as a 19 year old.

He also had much better numbers as a freshman than Ben Meyers did as a 21 year old freshman, in fact his feshman numbers were better than Meyers sophomore numbers
 

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time

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and you wouldnt trade him right now unless you never want a CFA to ever sign with you again.
 

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I like what I see... but will temper expectations for now

I also thought Koko was going to become a regular nhler/2nd line player. But it didnt workout.
Yea I hear ya .Things happen faster with more structure & more consistent size defensively in the NHL but Bruins can work with him now at least. Have to say, the way he disguised that pass was nice though.
 

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time
Go over the list of impact Russian players in this league and you'll find legit talent crops up where you don't normally expect to see it.

That should not be read to imply Merkulov is some clear first round talent, but, rather, the possibility he could be one shouldn't be dismissed because he wasn't drafted out of the MHL or USHL as a teen.

Let him play and eventually he'll let us know what's up.
 

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and you wouldnt trade him right now unless you never want a CFA to ever sign with you again.
Not to get off subject but seeing your list fired me up Dino Ciccarelli over 600 goals and had to wait for Hall call forever while guys like Guy Carbonneau go in quick 🙄 Just mind boggling.Ricky Middleton should be in for sure.End Rant 😄
 

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Go over the list of impact Russian players in this league and you'll find legit talent crops up where you don't normally expect to see it.

That should not be read to imply Merkulov is some clear first round talent, but, rather, the possibility he could be one shouldn't be dismissed because he wasn't drafted out of the MHL or USHL as a teen.

Let him play and eventually he'll let us know what's up.
Yes look at 27 yr old one in Toronto.They will lose him he gonna get 3 or 4 million raise
 

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What was his draft status? Nobody even took a flier on him his eligible years You can’t take his age out of it. He’s 21. Three years older than the first rounders we will see in June. I find it strange to label an undrafted 21 year old freshman in college a first round talent. Would anyone not trade him right now for a 2022 1? but I digress. Pulling for him and hoping he becomes a top 6 at some point in time

I too hope he ends up being a complete stud.

But "take his age out of it" is so funny I legit can't tell if people are doing a bit or not.
 
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There’s dozens of reasons why someone might not get drafted despite the talent. I agree with Kirk on this, full-stop— Merkulov is a first-round talent. That’s not saying he should have been a first-round pick three years ago, just that his talent level is that of a first-round pick. He was overlooked and the bruins reap the benefits as a result.

For argument sake, where is the hypothetical first-round pick? Can we use Boston’s as a benchmark?

Let’s say Anaheim called and offered Boston’s first back for Merkulov, right? I’m absolutely saying no. Merkulov is only 21, just scored 20 as a freshman in the NCAA and is now showing he’s capable of doing it in the professional ranks. He’s three years older than a first-round pick and has the production/development curve of what you’d hope for.

He’s an established commodity and available right now. Why trade him for another question mark that’s three years+ away?

What are we doing here? Can't we just be happy with a signing with exaggerating what it represents? The fact he's three years older than a first-round pick is exactly why he's not equivalent to a first-round pick. Maybe he'll be awesome, and maybe he'll be awesome right away, but this is foolishness.
 
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What are we doing here? Can't we just be happy with a signing with exaggerating what it represents? The fact he's three years older than a first-round pick is exactly why he's not equivalent to a first-round pick. Maybe he'll be awesome, and maybe he'll be awesome right away, but this is foolishness.
I look at 21 year old Georgie as the first round equivalent of what DS gave up for Lindholm. In fact, it’s better because we have a player with three years experience at a high level. This is about the range 2018/2019 first round picks would be rounding into major league maturity.
 

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I look at 21 year old Georgie as the first round equivalent of what DS gave up for Lindholm. In fact, it’s better because we have a player with three years experience at a high level. This is about the range 2018/2019 first round picks would be rounding into major league maturity.

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
 

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That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
You're absolutely right. It's not. But this year maybe?

Lucas Edmonds is considered by many a first round talent in the upcoming draft. And by some weird rule, he is eligible for the draft as a 21 year old. Merkulov compares to him IMO. Age and all. So for this year at the least, he compares to a first round talent.
 

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and you wouldnt trade him right now unless you never want a CFA to ever sign with you again.
When was the latest one there? What are more recent examples?

I agree with them not actually trading him, just find it hard to believe if he was signed by Colorado say, they would trade a Bruins first for him
 

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I look at 21 year old Georgie as the first round equivalent of what DS gave up for Lindholm. In fact, it’s better because we have a player with three years experience at a high level. This is about the range 2018/2019 first round picks would be rounding into major league maturity.
If this were true, why aren’t teams dealing their firsts for guys that have been in college for three years?

I love the Bruins are targeting these highly skilled types, but I think some of the things written or said may give unrealistic expectations.
 
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