OT: General OT MEGATHREAD (No Politics) Pt. 3 - Read OP before posting

AlexModvechkin8

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Its a really tough place to move to and get a foothold in real estate, but there is a flipside. I know plenty of people who have lived in the Bay Area for years, who bought homes in the mid 2000's and got a 2000 sq ft place for $500K or $650k or something that seemed outrageous at the time, but those homes are now worth $1.8M or more. So they are equipped to pull the plug and bolt with a nice nest egg stashed away, or to ride it out with mortgages that are manageable, especially while they are now being paid wages commensurate with the current cost of living there. When housing gets super expensive there are going to be winners and losers in every transaction.

I had a similar offer and decision to yours a few years back, and I was lucky enough to dodge it entirely and stay where I was (in Fallbrook) and work out of the corporate Oceanside location, so the commute is manageable (25 mins) and I kept my big ass house and reasonable mortgage. If I had to move to the Bay Area today, I'd be 100% effed.
Yup, I know this story well. My cousins grew up in San Jose and about 8 years ago as one grew up, got married, and had kids her and her husband bought a 3 br 1 ba 750 sq ft shack for $900k which I thought was outrageous. A few years ago during the frenzy they sold it for $1.4M or so -- all cash offer -- and bolted to Reno where they built a 5,500 square foot palace almost in all cash.

Think I'm going to move this whole convo to OT now since we've jumped the shark a bit on the thread :laugh:
 
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Thats when I was there. I lived all over there. Bankers Hill, Encinitas, North park, UTC

Wild times
Small world. I lived in Pacific Beach, Gaslamp (a few blocks from the Gaslamp Quarter sign), and Coronado. I always say I don't think there's a better place to spend your mid 20s if you like being outside and have a job that provides a little bit of coin to spend. Beautiful weather and beautiful people.

One of my biggest what if investments was I almost bought a 3br apartment in Little Italy for around $300k back when Little Italy was a complete shit hole but got cold feet because it was a dumpy part of town. That same place is going for no less than $800k per unit now and that's for 2 bedrooms. Sigh.
 
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Have to share I had a most excellent chicken fajita pizza with jalapenos from Pizza Bolis last night and today. So good.
 

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Picked up some Morimoto XB LED Tail Lights for the GT500. Probably waiting for warm weather before installing.

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Those clear tails feels right on a black car.
 

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You ever just want to quit your job because you get overworked, keep covering for other people, continuously going out of town to alleviate management, just to then be asked to do more? 10 year employee smgdh
 

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You ever just want to quit your job because you get overworked, keep covering for other people, continuously going out of town to alleviate management, just to then be asked to do more? 10 year employee smgdh

I suggest you don’t work as hard at your job. Or demand a raise that pays you for your additional efforts, and switch jobs if they refuse to compensate you fairly.
 
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I suggest you don’t work as hard at your job. Or demand a raise that pays you for your additional efforts, and switch jobs if they refuse to compensate you fairly.
For sure, it’s getting to that point where another career sounds like the move. I work for a company that is contracted by the Navy to clean hulls underwater, with great pay and at first the work load wasn’t as much and I was very driven to succeed which I did. Now the past 5 years has been a different story with new management taking over and implementing more overtime and a higher workload which honestly sucks after a while. Legit being on the road 5 months out of the year (I go on trips a lot as a guy with no kids, and because essentially they don’t have a ton of guys that want to travel, so basically I just do it to help them out) and turning around quick on a job to come home to work Fri-sat-sun after being gone at least 2 weeks. And that’s just really the tip of the iceberg, sorry for the rant
 

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For sure, it’s getting to that point where another career sounds like the move. I work for a company that is contracted by the Navy to clean hulls underwater, with great pay and at first the work load wasn’t as much and I was very driven to succeed which I did. Now the past 5 years has been a different story with new management taking over and implementing more overtime and a higher workload which honestly sucks after a while. Legit being on the road 5 months out of the year (I go on trips a lot as a guy with no kids, and because essentially they don’t have a ton of guys that want to travel, so basically I just do it to help them out) and turning around quick on a job to come home to work Fri-sat-sun after being gone at least 2 weeks. And that’s just really the tip of the iceberg, sorry for the rant

Ah, you're THAT guy.

Yeah they're going to abuse you. Any young (I assume) guy with no kids who's willing to travel is just going to get worked to death without the family excuse.

My advice is to adopt a kid from some impoverished country, at least on paper. Then use him or her as a shield against unreasonable overtime and travel.

Voila!
 

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Ah, you're THAT guy.

Yeah they're going to abuse you. Any young (I assume) guy with no kids who's willing to travel is just going to get worked to death without the family excuse.

My advice is to adopt a kid from some impoverished country, at least on paper. Then use him or her as a shield against unreasonable overtime and travel.

Voila!
What’s funny is when I first started there was some older disgruntled divers that use to complain a lot. My younger self with a point to prove was like “what’s wrong with these guys, this money is great and it’s even better with overtime!” Slowly but surely morphing into one of those dudes haha f***. But since I never say no, and have a good attitude at work, it’s essentially used against me. While some guys never work OT or travel, and just skate by. Fml
 
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Anyone else twitter feed go to dogshit after Elon Musk took over? My feed is full of MAGA people i dont follow and LGBT hating people boycotting everything spewing hate all day. I think this week they banned Bud light, Jack Daniels and Ford trucks because rainbows scare their kids.
 

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What’s funny is when I first started there was some older disgruntled divers that use to complain a lot. My younger self with a point to prove was like “what’s wrong with these guys, this money is great and it’s even better with overtime!” Slowly but surely morphing into one of those dudes haha f***. But since I never say no, and have a good attitude at work, it’s essentially used against me. While some guys never work OT or travel, and just skate by. Fml

This is pretty typical and generally a rite of passage, unfortunately. Any high paying job is going to carry some unpleasant periods of overtime, overwork, travel, or some other inconvenience.

Part of surviving is learning how to politely but firmly say "no" and set boundaries without seeming combative or unwilling to be a "team player". There are even audiobooks about this if you want to look. Nobody else is going to monitor your relative levels of burnout. At least not for long. You have to take control of that yourself.

One way to maybe stop the pattern in your case is to start scheduling regular personal time that's set in stone on your calendar. Or make a clear, simple, numbers-driven case for changing your workload or schedule, or for hiring someone to help you. Get inside the heads of the decision makers and figure out what might appeal to them and also get you what you want.

Ultimately it may not be in the operating principles of the new management to give a wet shit about any of that, though. Your best defense against this is making sure your resume' is updated at all times and actively job hunting so you have a plan B. Depending on how your management group thinks it could be to your advantage to let them find out through the grapevine that you're looking, or it might be best to keep it secret if they're cut throat and prone to just covering their own asses (and hiring someone else instead of getting you more money, more PTO, more help, etc).

All the corporate talk about being a family or core values...it's all horseshit. There is no loyalty anymore, in either direction. So don't nail yourself to a cross for any company. They're not doing it for you, and they're surely willing and able to hire someone else if they need to, so you need to be ready to jump ship (literally) if it comes to that.
 
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NeverMind, that’s a great post @g00n and it’s very fairly evident now with how much they preach time off and family time it’s all bullshit. It’s just really now you’re just a check on a paper, and a mark on a contract to get the job done. My problem is I rarely ever say no, just because I have a good work ethic. So it’s just hard for me in a way if I see guys I like working while I’m off. If that makes sense, but the burnout is absolutely coming on.
 

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I also don’t get what you mean by that guy @g00n care to elaborate?

I mean you're "that guy" that gets abused in a lot of companies based on your "no kids, willing to travel and work hard to impress, etc".

I've been that guy, and the more you work and pick up the slack for others the more they'll dump on you, until you do something about it.

Let me guess...if you complain ask for X you're told it's being discussed, but ultimately there's always some budget or manpower excuse and you just get more work?
 

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I mean you're "that guy" that gets abused in a lot of companies based on your "no kids, willing to travel and work hard to impress, etc".

I've been that guy, and the more you work and pick up the slack for others the more they'll dump on you, until you do something about it.

Let me guess...if you complain ask for X you're told it's being discussed, but ultimately there's always some budget or manpower excuse and you just get more work?
Essentially yes, but since I’m a veteran guy my time off requests are rarely questioned. Not to get too personal but with me is I rarely take off, the last 4 years especially since my girlfriend has been in school full time. So I just work, but it’s starting to wear on me mentally and literally physically. I’m more annoyed with their mismanagement of other guys which leads to a good employee being pissed. I basically just need to tell them no, like you said
 
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NeverMind, that’s a great post @g00n and it’s very fairly evident now with how much they preach time off and family time it’s all bullshit. It’s just really now you’re just a check on a paper, and a mark on a contract to get the job done. My problem is I rarely ever say no, just because I have a good work ethic. So it’s just hard for me in a way if I see guys I like working while I’m off. If that makes sense, but the burnout is absolutely coming on.

You have to recharge the batteries and view that as a crucial part of the entire package. Self-care is an investment in your work performance. Burned out people make more mistakes. Disgruntled people are shittier workers.

If they don't see it that way they're just whip crackers who say one thing and then make it practically impossible to follow through, because they know someone will step up. It isn't until that void is left unfilled that they're forced to make a change.

In this case, if they're preaching family time etc then they're probably mostly talking about people with kids and they're justifying their OWN PTO, not yours. So you have to defend your PTO and not give in. Don't tell them where you're going or what you're doing more than is necessary to answer reasonable questions. The fact that you have personal shit to do and a right to X weeks of PTO is all they need to know. But don't be a dick about it lol
 
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