General COVID-19 Talk #4 MOD Warning

[KINGS17]

I intended it that way to generalize for that reason--because I suspect that each of us amongst our neighbors/friends/family generally have a great amount of respect for one another and regardless of reasoning for vaccinating/not vaccinating we are there to help one another with none or little judgment. My neighbors aren't vaccinated at all and they're vocal about it, it's a political issue for them, but I'm still dropping them off care packages while they fight off Covid.

Our forum in particular has been mostly good. The internet and media as a whole would have you believe we all hate each other. I guess my point in the end is that while many of us don't agree, we're likely exhibiting a lot more empathy in our day to day lives than we are here in text. Everyone I know that isn't on Twitter at all is a LOT happier in general

What's Twitter?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

What's Twitter?

Good man.

 

[Lt Dan]

What's Twitter?

it's literally the cesspool of the internet .

Twitter is to the internet as peeps are to an Easter basket

 

[Bandit]

it's literally the cesspool of the internet .

Twitter is to the internet as peeps are to an Easter basket

Peeps are the f***ing worst.

 

[RonM11]

Seven-day averages for "cases" are 404,743, up 104% from a week ago. (Testing is widespread during the holidays.)

Seven-day averages for hospitalizations are 92,675, up 31% from a week ago. This is a lagging statistic and has been rising for two weeks now...following the behavior of previous surges.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Checking in from Clark County (Las Vegas).

On New Years Eve, we posted our single largest case increase of the entire pandemic.

The weekend numbers haven’t been released yet, but it’s going to be a bloodbath. We’re only at 69% eligible vaccinations.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

Peeps are the f***ing worst.

But they're the best because you can set them on fire and watch the sugar on the outside burn first and then the marshmallow in the middle. It's like it should have died, but then....yup yup,,,now it's really dead. That's some awesome shit right here...rinse repeat.

 

[Schrute farms]

i wonder how many people who get symptomatic CV are going to hospital simply due to the FEAR of covid itself. Like a mental thing. I've had the flu so bad pre-CV that i could not get off the bed/coach....sometimes wanting to go to the hospital but it was just too much effort and i didn't have the energy to do so. Yet i had no/zero fear of anything bad happening to me related to the flu (unless you have a 104+ fever). It was simply those thoughts of: i want this over and to be well again and give me some medicine maybe. I had such a case a year before CV came. But ultimately, i never did and never truly seriously considered it.

But with the fear of God now placed into CV....if i had such a similar case, i'd mentally be thinking what if this were it and i need to get myself to a hospital to prevent myself from dying. something i wouldn't even seriously consider doing with the flu. So i wonder how much (if any at all) this comes into play with people. The brain is a powerful thing.

 

[RonM11]

Not sure what you are talking about. Those people are getting ADMITTED to the hospital, and staying in the hospital.

Over 103,000 today, so the numbers are beginning to rise exponentially, just like last January.

A co-worker of mine went to the hospital last week. She's dead now. Only 40 years old, and healthy as can be. Sadly, unvaccinated.

 

[Lt Dan]

Shit is getting real

3856.75 cases per day
Hosp was 420 on Thursday------>545
ICU was 86----------> 104

It appears that the ICU isn't growing as at same rate it previously did along with cases and hospitalizations. Lets' hope that continues

 

[SmytheKing]

i wonder how many people who get symptomatic CV are going to hospital simply due to the FEAR of covid itself. Like a mental thing. I've had the flu so bad pre-CV that i could not get off the bed/coach....sometimes wanting to go to the hospital but it was just too much effort and i didn't have the energy to do so. Yet i had no/zero fear of anything bad happening to me related to the flu (unless you have a 104+ fever). It was simply those thoughts of: i want this over and to be well again and give me some medicine maybe. I had such a case a year before CV came. But ultimately, i never did and never truly seriously considered it.

But with the fear of God now placed into CV....if i had such a similar case, i'd mentally be thinking what if this were it and i need to get myself to a hospital to prevent myself from dying. something i wouldn't even seriously consider doing with the flu. So i wonder how much (if any at all) this comes into play with people. The brain is a powerful thing.

If anything, it's made me get things that people should probably have in their homes to be safe anyway. Things like an pulse oximeter, thermometer, a blood pressure monitor, general medicines for pain like Advil/Tylenol, and other stuff like that should be in homes regardless. It helped me feel comfortable with the symptoms I had this past week. Oxygen level was over 95 the whole time and temperature was never outside of normal ranges. Felt like garbage, but at least I wasn't worried.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

i wonder how many people who get symptomatic CV are going to hospital simply due to the FEAR of covid itself. Like a mental thing. I've had the flu so bad pre-CV that i could not get off the bed/coach....sometimes wanting to go to the hospital but it was just too much effort and i didn't have the energy to do so. Yet i had no/zero fear of anything bad happening to me related to the flu (unless you have a 104+ fever). It was simply those thoughts of: i want this over and to be well again and give me some medicine maybe. I had such a case a year before CV came. But ultimately, i never did and never truly seriously considered it.

But with the fear of God now placed into CV....if i had such a similar case, i'd mentally be thinking what if this were it and i need to get myself to a hospital to prevent myself from dying. something i wouldn't even seriously consider doing with the flu. So i wonder how much (if any at all) this comes into play with people. The brain is a powerful thing.

I get what you're saying but they're not going to admit you to the hospital--especially at this point--if they don't need to.

Last year when I had this thing I was dissuaded from going even after two weeks of a near 104 fever because 1. my oxygen was fine 2. they were so overloaded with cases i would have been a hall bed 3. there would be nothing they could do for me that i wasn't already doing from home.

 

[Schrute farms]

Well I thought it was obvious that I’m not talking about actually being admitted to the hospital and in a bed/icu. Ron you really seem to have an agenda you want to push don’t you.

I’m talking about going to the hospital and filling up the doctors/nurses time, urgent care, etc. Or even people filling up the testing sites. Actually being admitted is a whole different ball game. I thought that was an obvious point but I guess not.

 

[RonM11]

Well I thought it was obvious that I’m not talking about actually being admitted to the hospital and in a bed/icu. Ron you really seem to have an agenda you want to push don’t you.

I’m talking about going to the hospital and filling up the doctors/nurses time, urgent care, etc. Or even people filling up the testing sites. Actually being admitted is a whole different ball game. I thought that was an obvious point but I guess not.

I have no agenda and I'm not pushing anything. I'm just stating facts. You should make yourself clear in your posts. Read it again before posting, and see if you understand what you are saying.

Maybe you meant going to the ER. They sent my son home twice. The first time, the idiot doctor diagnosed "virus syndrome" whatever that means (hint: it means nothing). The second time, he actually saw a doctor who cared and diagnosed COVID-19 and gave him some steroids and flushed his upper respiratory system and discharged him. He was never admitted to the hospital.

 

[KINGS17]

Omicron Cases Soar, But Deaths on the Decline, White House Says

The 7-day daily average of COVID-19 infections is 240,400 -- an increase of 60% since last week. But hospital admissions have only increased by 14%, at 9,000 per day. Deaths are averaging 1,100 per day, a decrease of about 7%.

According to a study from one South African hospital published Tuesday, patient deaths from Omicron averaged 4.5%, compared to 21.3% from previous waves. About 45% of patients with Omicron required supplemental oxygen, while 99% of patients from previous COVID-19 waves needed breathing assistance. The average length of stay for Omicron patients was 4 days -- less than half the average for other strains.

Keep in mind these percentages from South Africa are from patients admitted to hospitals, not people who tested positive.

 

[KingLB]

21%!? Never realized how many hospitalized people ended up dying. Granted that seems to track with what we are seeing, just never thought about like that. (Well and SA nunbers)

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

i wonder how many people who get symptomatic CV are going to hospital simply due to the FEAR of covid itself. Like a mental thing. I've had the flu so bad pre-CV that i could not get off the bed/coach....sometimes wanting to go to the hospital but it was just too much effort and i didn't have the energy to do so. Yet i had no/zero fear of anything bad happening to me related to the flu (unless you have a 104+ fever). It was simply those thoughts of: i want this over and to be well again and give me some medicine maybe. I had such a case a year before CV came. But ultimately, i never did and never truly seriously considered it.

But with the fear of God now placed into CV....if i had such a similar case, i'd mentally be thinking what if this were it and i need to get myself to a hospital to prevent myself from dying. something i wouldn't even seriously consider doing with the flu. So i wonder how much (if any at all) this comes into play with people. The brain is a powerful thing.

It's not going to affect the numbers admitted. There are a few algorithms in place and a patient either meets them or they don't. Oxygen Sats are low, unstable vitals, stroke and neurological deficit etc. I have also seen people go to the ER to get their pink eye prescription refilled instead of going to the urgent care in the am so there's that too. It's a fair thought though. Some people are going to be more anxious than others.

 

[KINGS17]

21%!? Never realized how many hospitalized people ended up dying. Granted that seems to track with what we are seeing, just never thought about like that. (Well and SA nunbers)

I think it is linked to the relatively small percentage of South Africans who are vaccinated.

 

[Kudelski37]

Nationally, there were over a million cases reported yesterday. This is almost double the record set last Thursday and more than triple the pre-Christmas record set last winter.

 

[KINGS17]

Nationally, there were over a million cases reported yesterday. This is almost double the record set last Thursday and more than triple the pre-Christmas record set last winter.

No doubt Omicron is more contagious and cases are going to rise dramatically for a while. Then they will decline dramatically just as they have in countries several weeks ahead of the U.S. in dealing with Omicron.

 

[Lt Dan]

Cases were 3856.75 per day for the 4 days reported yesterday, so still climbing
Hosp up 545------>614
ICU up 6

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Nationally, there were over a million cases reported yesterday. This is almost double the record set last Thursday and more than triple the pre-Christmas record set last winter.

No matter how deadly or not deadly, that's absolutely bonkers infectiousness.

No doubt Omicron is more contagious and cases are going to rise dramatically for a while. Then they will decline dramatically just as they have in countries several weeks ahead of the U.S. in dealing with Omicron.

Let's hope they follow that pattern. The US's weird setup of large population centers AND spread out country kind of lends itself to trouble in a way.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I saw this while doing my daily crawl down a rabbit hole on YouTube:



I'm surprised that isn't getting more attention from the media.

I came across this one too which appears to be good news as well:

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Also, I thought it was rather interesting to see Trump get booed by his supporters and alienate a fair amount of his base by acknowledging he got a vaccine booster. I'm not sure what his angle is there. At first I thought maybe it was an appeal to people like my mother who are conservatives but did not vote for him in 2020 because of his COVID response. In full disclosure she grew tired of him for other reasons but that was the final straw for her.

 

[KINGS17]

I saw this while doing my daily crawl down a rabbit hole on YouTube:



I'm surprised that isn't getting more attention from the media.

I came across this one too which appears to be good news as well:

The second video was particularly informative and he explained it extremely well.

I will be PM'ing all of you who are known Omicron-Marys with the address where you can send your plasma.