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Rumpelstiltskin said:
"Merry Christmas Eve-Eve:"

FDA Authorized the First COVID-19 Pill, Paxlovid From Pfizer | Time
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...and you get a Paxlovid, you get get a Paxlovid, everyone gets a Paxlovid.

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RocketKing said:
I am very aware of that but when someone is talking about jacking off to Trump in a mirror and nobody had the balls to call him out then I felt like it was warranted. Oh and I also read the mod statement about no political attacks but WTF. Either enforce the standards or get shitty comments like mine. So take you in case your not aware comments and we’ll, you know what to do.
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Yeah, the 'mod OR ELSE' approach isn't exactly endearing.

There is a 'report post' button for you to use for a reason. It's not about the balls to call someone out, lord knows this place has plenty of that. It's about using the tools to bring actionable things to our attention.

If you don't do that and choose to mod on your own, you're just gonna be collateral damage. I don't have the time or energy to save people from themselves at this stage. Everyone's been here long enough to know where the line is.
 
I got me a positive antibody test back in November so now I feel like the Terminator. I got a vaccine and what could only be described as the most mild case of COVID anyone has had preceding it. Apparently antibodies can last over a year. The nurse that I got my test from said she got sick in September 2020 and is still testing positive for antibodies.
 
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Buddy The Elf said:
I got me a positive antibody test back in November so now I feel like the Terminator. I got a vaccine and what could only be described as the most mild case of COVID anyone has had preceding it. Apparently antibodies can last over a year. The nurse that I got my test from said she got sick in September 2020 and is still testing positive for antibodies.
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I have family in England that are vaxxed but are now spending their second Christmas with Covid. The brits seem to have a get it and get over it attitude for the most part. Break throughs are very real as are the ability to get it again. Don’t think I’d want to take my chances more than once with Covid if that.
 
Speaking just for folks in SoCal, if this current strain is more contagious but doesn’t result in more hospitalizations, that’s something that should be seen as a sign that vaccination is effective even without 100% of the population inoculated.
 
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Just got word that my gf's brother tested positive for it. His gf tested positive so he was quarantining until his test results came back. Well....at least that was the plan. Then he wandered in on Xmas day without a mask into a room full of a lot of folks and just kinda went about the day like that. Now everyone is panicked and searching for tests (which of course no one has). I just got my test ordered today and it should be here tomorrow.
 
Its definitely spiking majorly... everyone I know has quite a few people that have it - many in restaurant industry... if ever there was a time to hunker down this may be it. Another note, this Fauci interview going around re ADE - antibody Dependent Enhancement.. something I was concerned with when investigating the available vaccines.. thats the one thing you cant really know up front and is why Vaxes take a while to get approved.. well known vax for dengue fever had this. In this conversation he's pointing out the every vaccine has the potential for ADE its still something that to be concerned with any new vaccine.
 
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Its definitely spiking majorly... everyone I know has quite a few people that have it - many in restaurant industry... if ever there was a time to hunker down this may be it. Another note, this Fauci interview going around re ADE - antibody Dependent Enhancement.. something I was concerned with when investigating the available vaccines.. thats the one thing you cant really know up front and is why Vaxes take a while to get approved.. well known vax for dengue fever had this. In this conversation he's pointing out the every vaccine has the potential for ADE its still something that to be concerned with any new vaccine.
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How would that apply here?

All the public data we have shows that the VAST majority of hospital visits are unvaccinated and if anything the vaccine is making the disease milder in those that have breakthrough cases.

If anything, it's certainly not making it worse. This looks like a complete misinterpretation/borderline propoganda.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
How would that apply here?

All the public data we have shows that the VAST majority of hospital visits are unvaccinated and if anything the vaccine is making the disease milder in those that have breakthrough cases.

If anything, it's certainly not making it worse. This looks like a complete misinterpretation/borderline propoganda.
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File this under "When you think things mean something but they don't".
 
I've had 10 co-workers (working remotely already) who have tested positive for COVID in the past week. All fully vaccinated, a few had the booster shot, but all of them simply report a bad flu for a few days and then exhaustion. No hospital visits, etc. I have another unvaccinated friend who got it and went to the hospital (No ventilator, thank goodness) but sick enough to need more than just bed rest.

Stats do NOT lie! I hope the whole darn world doesn't go bonkers and hide in our houses again hoping it will go away. It will be waiting there for us when we come back out to play.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
How would that apply here?

All the public data we have shows that the VAST majority of hospital visits are unvaccinated and if anything the vaccine is making the disease milder in those that have breakthrough cases.

If anything, it's certainly not making it worse. This looks like a complete misinterpretation/borderline propoganda.
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The point is as Fauci mentioned: its too early to tell if the vaccine is 100% safe from ADE... and this is one of several reason why they normally vet vaccines over a period of years. This isnt hysteria - this is coming from the lead govt spokesman on infectious diseases. My secondary point is: when weighing whether to take the vax or not, its good to consider any long term downsides. Lets say covid had a 30% mortality rate - I would not even consider the possibility of ADE and get the vax without further thoughts. Given the risk of getting and dying of it are less than .1% - then I start to consider the risks of the vax itself and it is a risk/reward analysis.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
The point is as Fauci mentioned: its too early to tell if the vaccine is 100% safe from ADE... and this is one of several reason why they normally vet vaccines over a period of years. This isnt hysteria - this is coming from the lead govt spokesman on infectious diseases. My secondary point is: when weighing whether to take the vax or not, its good to consider any long term downsides. Lets say covid had a 30% mortality rate - I would not even consider the possibility of ADE and get the vax without further thoughts. Given the risk of getting and dying of it are less than .1% - then I start to consider the risks of the vax itself and it is a risk/reward analysis.
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That's fine, but that video is grossly out of context, and even if that's a consideration for you, the presentation is questionable. It's from March 2020 and is being presented as a 'gotcha' and your use of it as a suggestion/implication that the Omicron strain is presenting this has the point literally backwards.

Clip of Fauci discussing theoretical vaccine concern is from March 2020 | AP News
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
How would that apply here?

All the public data we have shows that the VAST majority of hospital visits are unvaccinated and if anything the vaccine is making the disease milder in those that have breakthrough cases.

If anything, it's certainly not making it worse. This looks like a complete misinterpretation/borderline propoganda.
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Not borderline at all. Just pure propaganda.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
That's fine, but that video is grossly out of context, and even if that's a consideration for you, the presentation is questionable. It's from March 2020 and is being presented as a 'gotcha' and your use of it as a suggestion/implication that the Omicron strain is presenting this has the point literally backwards.

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That is not a gotcha.. its a statement of fact about vaccines in general - not about something changing over time. I just became aware of the clip today - so to me its interesting to hear his opinion of vaccine development. Its purely informational and to spur discussion. It seems any discussion of the risks of the vaccine cause a lot of hand wringing. All vaccines have this potential risk.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
The point is as Fauci mentioned: its too early to tell if the vaccine is 100% safe from ADE... and this is one of several reason why they normally vet vaccines over a period of years. This isnt hysteria - this is coming from the lead govt spokesman on infectious diseases. My secondary point is: when weighing whether to take the vax or not, its good to consider any long term downsides. Lets say covid had a 30% mortality rate - I would not even consider the possibility of ADE and get the vax without further thoughts. Given the risk of getting and dying of it are less than .1% - then I start to consider the risks of the vax itself and it is a risk/reward analysis.
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First of all, if the mortality rate was 30% the virus would quickly burn itself out. It would never have made it out of the minor leagues.

Second of all, 0.1% is a hell of a death rate.
 
A lot of bowl games canceled due to some positive tests and the NCAA's obsolete contact tracing requirements.

Not too much impact in the NFL, because they run a tight business ship. Loose lips sink entire seasons.

I remember Goodell's quote last year regarding whether or not the NFL would be impacted or shutdown, "This is the NFL, we're playing."
 
Started getting symptoms last night after being around two people that have since tested positive on Christmas: one at breakfast then one at dinner. It was coming for me and finally won. Two Pfizer shots so I'm vaccinated.

Will be shocked if my test tomorrow comes up negative. Just want to get in bed but I'm an American so I'm working from home because things need to get done before year end.
 
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Obviously not to cheapen it at all but it makes me wonder how long this was spreading before people started being attentive and testing again
 
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