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Hmmm....

It is (Still) so crazy to me how different everyone's reactions are

My experience

Shot 1- an hour later. Covid confusion. I was emailing my assistant and she called me and asked WTH was wrong with me. I read the email I sent her and it was in tongues. the next morning It felt like I had drank a bottle of tequila the night before and I was running a few . 8 hours later...all good. Also a massive bruise that looked the British planes in ww2
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Shot 2- Nothing! Literally like a I got placebo

Shot 3- Covid arm. Shot on Wed. Reaction Thu- now. Much less severe each day. Itchy and a little warm to the touch
As a non-medical person who knows you a little, I can safely say: None of these reactions are from the vaccine.
 
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I haven't paid too much attention to know what exactly the booster shot is but I got two doses of Moderna and felt alright.

1st shot no side affects; 2nd shot felt like I was railed the night before but felt better within 36 hours.

My work was literally giving us a $150 incentive to get vaccinated sooo..
 
Shot #1: nothing

Shot #2: fever, chills, full works. Lasted about 24 hours.

Then I actually caught delta a month ago. Terrible sore throat, cough, and terrible GI symptoms.

I have preexisting GI problems, and am still experiencing strengthened symptoms.
 
1st shot: mild side effects, kicked my ass overnight from about hour 12-18, then subsided almost completely by hour 24.
2nd shot: almost no effects, just really really tired, went to bed at 7, got up at 7, felt amazing

Just got my booster AND the flu shot at the same time, not sure if the effects were from tonights game or the shots. I was fine most of the day (got shot at 10am), got fatigued durng the game, after the game I took a hot shower then got extremely nauseous for a couple of hours. Had one final MAJOR purge--we're talking Mexico trip sick, Team America . gif sick--and now just weak and tired, a little shaky. Gonna get a nice hard sleep and see how I feel tomorrow but it's mostly gone.
 
1st shot: mild side effects, kicked my ass overnight from about hour 12-18, then subsided almost completely by hour 24.
2nd shot: almost no effects, just really really tired, went to bed at 7, got up at 7, felt amazing

Just got my booster AND the flu shot at the same time, not sure if the effects were from tonights game or the shots. I was fine most of the day (got shot at 10am), got fatigued durng the game, after the game I took a hot shower then got extremely nauseous for a couple of hours. Had one final MAJOR purge--we're talking Mexico trip sick, Team America . gif sick--and now just weak and tired, a little shaky. Gonna get a nice hard sleep and see how I feel tomorrow but it's mostly gone.
Oof. And let me also add ..ouch

Hope youare feeling better
 
Oof. And let me also add ..ouch

Hope youare feeling better

Thank you--slept from basically right after I posted that until about 10am. Woke up a lot so it wasn't super restful, but I'm definitely a lot better today. Did not expect the walls to come crashing in like that last night, yeesh. I definitely wouldn't have eaten lasagne :laugh:
 
Came here to say the same about Clark County, NV. Our numbers made an alarming uptick today. This is about two months later than the surge that started last fall/winter for us.
 
I know that in the past some of us have discussed data vs preprints and where we get our data from. I am doing some "light reading" for some Continued Education credits that are required and part of that is doing reading on current research

Here's the point. On any valid peer reviewed study, there is a section called Limitations. Preprints skip this important step. That is where those who performed the experiment are supposed to come clean on what the limitations and weaknesses of the study were so those reviewing it don't waste their time. It also opens it up to criticism which is good to see if the data stands against the conclusion. Preprints skip this part because they are often still looking for funding etc. It's like a commercial, give us cash so we can keep doing this without saying what's wrong with the product. Both news channels have been citing preprints for clicks without doing their due diligence and it has created a lot of confusion with the public. Preprints are considered controversial in scientific circles and are avoided, but in the need for data, they have jumped to the surface and gotten the attention of media outlets for clicks and viewers or to push a media driven agenda.

It's important that the info provided is peer reviewed if we're talking about policy. This makes sure the info we go back and forth on isn't going to be contradicted 2 months down the road because the work was never peer reviewed. ie the Israeli study re: Covid Natural Immunity vs Vaccination, especially in light of a new variant which we all knew was coming.

Example of limitations of a peer reviewed study below. Every study worth its weight should have this. If it doesn't, it really shouldn't be considered.

Limitations
"This study has several limitations. First, the dis- tribution of patients across the categories of GCS and mRS scores was unequal, with a much larger group of patients in the mild GCS category than in the mod- erate and severe categories (Table 2). This uneven dis- tribution may have affected the association between the GCS and mRS scores. Another limitation relates to determining the cutoffs for mRS scores. The mRS may be approached as a dichotomous scale with a lowerrangeof0to1,0to2,or0to3ormaybe analyzed as a continuous ordinal scale.13 Previous studies have shown that the ordinal approach may have greater statistical power, as a patient with an mRS score of 5 differs clinically from a patient with an mRS score of 6.13 Another limitation was that the mRS was the only available outcome measure from the END-PANIC registry. An additional validated outcome assessment instrument might provide a dif- ferent perspective on the association between admis- sion GCS score and outcomes in non-TBI patients".


Credit to:
ADMISSION GLASGOW
COMA SCALE SCORE AS A
PREDICTOR OF OUTCOME
IN PATIENTS WITHOUT
TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY
By Amy Li, MPH, Folefac D. Atem, PhD, Aardhra M. Venkatachalam, MPH, Arianna Barnes, BSN, RN, CCRN, SCRN, PHN, Sonja E. Stutzman, PhD, and DaiWai M. Olson, PhD, RN, CCRN
 
You're getting slow in your old age LT Dan.

BTW, back to the OC Covid data, i'm really surprised we haven't seen the daily cases increase much the past week+. It's increased, but not by much; staying in that 300/day range. Maybe it's delayed and Omicron will get those 500+/daily case rates. But for now, i'm somewhat surprised.
 
You're getting slow in your old age LT Dan.

BTW, back to the OC Covid data, i'm really surprised we haven't seen the daily cases increase much the past week+. It's increased, but not by much; staying in that 300/day range. Maybe it's delayed and Omicron will get those 500+/daily case rates. But for now, i'm somewhat surprised.
Except for the fact that OC is routinely underreporting their own cases. I suspect they have a built-in automatic 15% reduction in the software in computing ACTUAL case count.

Besides, there is always a delay in not only when the illness takes real hold in human bodies, but also when they get reported to the county. The real test as to determining an increase in case counts? Let's wait and see what happens from this point forward until February 1. January is probably going to be horrible, but not nearly as horrible as last January.
 
To be honest, I was hoping for a variant that had crazy transmissibility but horribly weak on severity as for as disease. That would be ideal.
Apparently, this is the only way we are going to get out of this thing, thanks to upwards of 40% of people refusing to get the shot. The virus is going to have to kill itself, a la the flu pandemic of 1918-1920. (I know that virus is still with us over 100 years later, you know what I mean...)
 

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