Olympics: GDT 13 feb Finland vs Sweden

[Mestaruus]

I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this game. Sweden still is very much one of the favorites to win Gold. Especially since as i haven't been too impressed with team Russia's KHL players this tournament..

To me nothing has changed on the expectations before the tournament. The 4 EHT teams Sweden, Finland, ROC and CZE are the favorites and perhaps ROC & Finland have the best player material out of these 4. USA and Canada are complete question marks because they have only faced each other and none of these "Euro"/EHT countries.

I would say no chance for Canada or USA to win gold but there is the fact that this tournament is played on small ice which is something that is bread and butter for Canadian and American players regardless of how many years they have played in Europe. That's the type of rink where they played all their childhood in. So USA & Canada are very interesting once they meet some of these other top teams.

Denmark is a dark horse as well with many good KHL or former KHL players and the likes of Mikkel Bödker.

 

[Exarz]

Even as a Swede I hope Finland have an extra gear to put in. We already knew Swedens chance at gold died when Garpen took over. And the team he choose is questionable at best.

I was questioning the roster for the Olympics too but the first two periods today convinced be that the playstyle can be quite efficient in a tournament like this. However his coaching is horrible...

 

[mattihp]

Captain Anton Forehead didn't blame it on the refs but pointed out the problems Sweden had.

 

[Mestaruus]

No kidding. I almost don't want Finland to win because certain faction on this site will be unbearable and act like we won an actual Olympic gold.

For the record, this is our C team, though.

Finland had as much a D team as Sweden had a D team for that game. I don't know how that guy you quoted can ground his statement. It just sounded silly to me.

 

[jonlin]

Laine - Barkov -Rantanen
Teräväinen - Aho - Puljujärvi
Granlund - Hintz - Kakko
Lehkonen - Lundell - Kapanen

vs.

Landeskog - Zibanejad - Forsberg
Bratt - Bäckström - Nylander
Raymond - Pettersson - Burakovsky
Arvidsson - Lindholm - Kempe

I dont know about you, but I take the team with 5 200ft centers any day.

 

[karhukissa]

These threads always get's out of control between Sweden and Finland. Both sides get heated because of penalties, first finns get mad because of penalties and then swedes do the same.

Suddenly game is 2-3 and it's all refs, then Finland 3-3 and Sweden collapsed completely. There is no need to be a "sore winner" but when you hear that "it's all refs, finland is a shithouse team" you kinda feel extra good if we win. I was ready to give Sweden credit if they won, but after seeing swedes shitting on Finland and blaming them for dirty play, nah.

 

[mattihp]

These threads always get's out of control between Sweden and Finland. Both sides get heated because of penalties, first finns get mad because of penalties and then swedes do the same.

Suddenly game is 2-3 and it's all refs, then Finland 3-3 and Sweden collapsed completely. There is no need to be a "sore winner" but when you hear that "it's all refs, finland is a shithouse team" you kinda feel extra good if we win. I was ready to give Sweden credit if they won, but after seeing swedes shitting on Finland and blaming them for dirty play, nah.

I pressed ignore on two finns and the thread got a lot better

 

[karhukissa]

I pressed ignore on two finns and the thread got a lot better

Yeah i mean i understand that these are big games and you got lot of adrenaline, but referee conspiracies are the worst thing to say. I didn't agree with all the calls, finns and swedes both got really soft calls.

But to say that there is some agenda against either one of the teams in Olympic hockey is just a huge nonsense.

 

[MoeTheHobo]

The ignore button deserves it's own "is... underrated?" thread

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I still didn't understand what happened after the overtime goal. Was there a protest for something? Did referees research something? Everyone seemed confused that what's going on.

 

[Hntz]

It always feels good to beat Sweden. No need to be sore winners though. Especially when Sweden was the better team for 40 minutes.

 

[heksagon]

Miro Heiskanen would make Team Sweden's D. That's it.

For Forwards: Barkov, Rantanen, Aho, Teräväinen, Laine, Hintz. (Maybe Granlund)

For Goalies: Saros.

All the other slots would be best filled with Swedes IMO.

 

[karhukissa]

Also i believe that big factor leading to this win was our experienced guys, it really helps on the 2nd intermission when you have guys like Filppula to calm things down. Vatanen as an experienced player should never ever take a penalty like that, that's a rookie mistake.

 

[Mestaruus]

Finland’s B team best our D team. I’m impressed.

Flawed post you did there. So please elaborate how this is Finland's B team and how it's Sweden's D team. I'm all ears (or eyes).

Build me a Finnish A team then, then build me 3 teams of Sweden that are A, B, C.

 

[Mestaruus]

I have to agree with all the Swedes complaining about their coach. Garpenlöv is not a good coach, he is a bad coach. In fact he is pretty shitty coach.

I'd take a Finnish version of Garnpenlöv over Lauri Marjamäki though. Marjamäki can only coach club teams well.

 

[jonlin]

Miro Heiskanen would make Team Sweden's D. That's it.

For Forwards: Barkov, Rantanen, Aho, Teräväinen, Laine, Hintz. (Maybe Granlund)

For Goalies: Saros.

All the other slots would be best filled with Swedes IMO.

But the teams going at eachother, I like Finlands chances a lot more. I`d say we have a lot more talent on PP and PK. Sweden have the better D, but we have the Top-notch forwards and special teams.

 

[Elias40]

If Canada and the US win their matches against China and Germany, then the quarters would probably look like this:
Canada-Sweden and Finland-Czechia. So I congratulate Finland on winning and a nice opponent in the quarterfinals.

 

[FiLe]

I still didn't understand what happened after the overtime goal. Was there a protest for something? Did referees research something? Everyone seemed confused that what's going on.

When Hietanen skated past the post after the puck, his leg clipped the end of Hellberg's stick. Sweden was arguing goalie interference. However, replay showed that no part of Hietanen was anywhere near the crease, so it was an argument born dead.

 

[jonlin]

Team Swinland:

Landeskog - Barkov - Rantanen
Laine - Aho - Nylander
Hintz - Zibanejad - Forsberg
Granlund - Bäckström - Lindholm

xtrs: Teräväinen, Lundell, Raymond, Burakovsky

Hedman - Heiskanen
Dahlin - Lindholm
Karlsson - Kylington
Klingberg - Lindell

Saros
Markström

 

[AB13]

Team Swinland:

Landeskog - Barkov - Rantanen
Laine - Aho - Nylander
Hintz - Zibanejad - Forsberg
Granlund - Bäckström - Lindholm

xtrs: Teräväinen, Lundell, Raymond, Burakovsky

Hedman - Heiskanen
Dahlin - Lindholm
Karlsson - Kylington
Klingberg - Lindell

Saros
Markström

Weird defence. My defence would be

Hedman - Karlsson
Brodin - Klingberg
Dahlin - Andersson
Lindholm - Ekholm/Heiskanen.

Considering balance and skillsets.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

When Hietanen skated past the post after the puck, his leg clipped the end of Hellberg's stick. Sweden was arguing goalie interference. However, replay showed that no part of Hietanen was anywhere near the crease, so it was an argument born dead.

Ok, this sounds now like a good reason to actually discuss about something there. Thanks!

 

[jonlin]

Weird defence. The best lineup there would be

Hedman - Karlsson
Brodin - Klingberg
Dahlin - Andersson
Lindholm - Ekholm/Heiskanen

What? Heiskanen has been better than any D other than Hedman on Swedish team. Dahlin and him have about same PPG, even though Heiskanen is on PP2. Klingberg is on same team and is considered the worse of the 2, so who is wierd here?

 

[AB13]

What? Heiskanen has been better than any D other than Hedman on Swedish team. Dahlin and him have about same PPG, even though Heiskanen is on PP2. Klingberg is on same team and is considered the worse of the 2, so who is wierd here?

Jonas Brodin is elite. Karlsson is back to his best. Rasmus Andersson is outperforming Heiskanen and much better defensively.

Heiskanen is not as good defensively as Hedman, Brodin or Lindholm. Considerably worse with the puck than Dahlin and Hedman and about on par with Brodin. That’s looking at left handed options. I do not trust Heiskanen against physically gifted forwards, and he isn’t a good enough puck mover to warrant minutes.

 

[Svedu]

Imagine Sweden lost after getting 35 minutes of PP and they were complaining that the Finns played too rough? The first PP goal then? It wasn't even a penalty. The swede pushed the Finnish forward and of course Hellberg complained and got mad.

I´m not impressed by neither team but would Finland lose a 3-0 lead with Jalonens organization? I don't think so but who knows. Our most skilled guy in Granlund (perhaps together with Manninen and Rajala imo) got sent off the game etc.
I mean if you can't win after having PP for more than half the game? How can you even call Leijonat for a shithouse team and be salty? Again, 35 minutes of PP and every single goal was a PP-goal and the first one wasn't even a correct penalty.

Then comes this BS that Finland would have their B-team and Sweden their D-team... Not salty? Remember 2019? When swedes almost had their A-team? And Finland had their C or D-team? Childish nonsense.
I have to say that I can understand why many think Tre Kronor fans are the most complaining and salty l*sers there is. Not all, but some of you.
Just look how they always tried to provoke the finns, especially Vatanen when he got his penalty. That was clearly their matchplan and to some extent they succeeded with that, congrats.

About the Finnish effort then? Vatanens penalty made me mad. How can he be so dumb, impulsive and egoistic, like a teenager.
The first goal? Olkinuoras mistake, easy goal in my opinion. The third one is a goal he would save when he's on top of his game. These are actually things that are positive in the end. Without Olkinuora playing his best game, dumb penalties and Granlund sent off? They manage to turn things around. Again, not a single goal was scored on 5v5 either.
But let's not forget Sweden had a shot on the rim etc.
The win showed some strength but all in all this wasn't a good performance. This game could actually be a good lesson for the Finns going forward, even if they won.

 

[Svedu]

Jonas Brodin is elite. Karlsson is back to his best. Rasmus Andersson is outperforming Heiskanen and much better defensively.

Heiskanen is not as good defensively as Hedman, Brodin or Lindholm. Considerably worse with the puck than Dahlin and Hedman and about on par with Brodin. That’s looking at left handed options. I do not trust Heiskanen against physically gifted forwards, and he isn’t a good enough puck mover to warrant minutes.

You are such a whin* and sore l*ser. Every single time.

Heiskanen is a top D in the NHL no matter what. The Finnish forward group is pretty insane, especially the center depth. Sweden isn't even close.
Yeah, you have better D´s but we have something called organization, good goalies and I trust this generation of forwards in Barkov, Aho, Lundell, Rantanen, Teräväinen, Hintz etc. Move on buddy.