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Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames

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No problems. Time for Calgary to pay up.

I've seen where Flames fans, who really are in a position to know, say that The difference between Gadreau and McDavid is very small. In that case, there's no reason not to pay him accordingly.

The sooner the better.
 
I am sticking with my predication that the first number is going to be a 7.

Why would he take anything in the $6 million range.
 
Dack said:
Also in Eberle's second season he had a shooting percentage of ~19%, and he had the highest on-ice shooting percentage in the league.
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I think Gaudreau and Eberle are equivalent goal scorers, but Gaudreau is definitely the better playmaker which makes him a fairly better player (although Eberle is a pretty good playmaker himself).
 
Mork said:
No problems. Time for Calgary to pay up.

I've seen where Flames fans, who really are in a position to know, say that The difference between Gadreau and McDavid is very small. In that case, there's no reason not to pay him accordingly.

The sooner the better.
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I think thats wishful thinking that the difference is small, unless you're speaking about at this point in time. McDavid only being 19 would lead me to believe that the gap is only going to widen. I would definitely take Gaudreau on my team at 7.5-8M though. Its not a steal of a deal, but its more than fair.
 
Mork said:
No problems. Time for Calgary to pay up.

I've seen where Flames fans, who really are in a position to know, say that The difference between Gadreau and McDavid is very small. In that case, there's no reason not to pay him accordingly.

The sooner the better.
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The difference as of right now, yes. The difference in potential is significant. Don't be obtuse.

Also, the Flames hold basically all the cards. Unless Gaudreau wants to play in Europe or take a full year off during his best years, his agent is going to have to cave at some point. Worst case, they sign a shorter deal. I'd be extremely surprised if he ended up getting anything near 8 million a year.
 
McFlyingV said:
Maybe not 2M, although I think Gaudreau will end up signing for 7-7.5. Eberle had the better forwards and cashed out on an RNH who was allowed to play a pure offensive game as a rookie and a pretty good sophomore Taylor Hall, and Gaudreau had the better dmen. I'm just talking solely on watching the two that I think Gaudreau is better than Eberle. I think Gaudreau creates more on his own and is better on the defensive side of things. Is it worth 1.5-2M more? Im not sure, but I also think Eberle's contract is fair for what he does offensively.
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Its hard to say Ebs contract is fair when we couldn't even move him for a top 4 D.

Gaudreau could very well regress like Ebs. Not easy moving someone who is 5'9, who doesn't PK with a price tag of 7M+
 
deckercky said:
Of course he is. He's an unsigned restricted free agent.
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Nope. The RFA in question has to have 3 years of professional experience (min 10 games played in a pro league) before they are offersheet/arbitration eligible. Gaudreau only played 1 game in his "first" season.
 
SmellOfVictory said:
The difference as of right now, yes. The difference in potential is significant. Don't be obtuse.

Also, the Flames hold basically all the cards. Unless Gaudreau wants to play in Europe or take a full year off during his best years, his agent is going to have to cave at some point. Worst case, they sign a shorter deal. I'd be extremely surprised if he ended up getting anything near 8 million a year.
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You're probably right, he'll either get 7 longterm or he'll sign short term at less and they can revisit it a year or 2 down the road. I don't think he'll hold out to play in Europe.

McCanovin said:
Its hard to say Ebs contract is fair when we couldn't even move him for a top 4 D.

Gaudreau could very well regress like Ebs. Not easy moving someone who is 5'9, who doesn't PK with a price tag of 7M+
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Well thats not exactly fair to evaluate his contract as being fair or not based on whether he could get a top 4D (and we don't know what type of offers there were on him in the first place). Based on what others make that produce in the ~top 30 every year for scoring Eberle's contract is roughly fair. Just because Dmen are going for a premium in trades while wingers are not doesn't really prove that Eberle's contract isn't fair.
 
Ebs' contract is fairly comparable. He didn't place as high in league scoring but the actual raw numbers are similar. Inflation adjusted, he signed a 6.8x6, and that bought 2 UFA years.

A 6 year deal for JG would only buy 1 UFA year. He's definitely better (6th in scoring vs 16th, backchecks vs doesn't, etc) but not so much so that it would be 1 million more, maaaaaybe 500k.

I think a fair deal, with the lack of leverage he has (no arbitration, no offer sheets, only 1 elite year) would be 6.8x6, 7.1x7 or 7.4x8.

Everyone seems to think that Gaudreau is roughly = Tarasenko, but Tarasenko's deal bought 1 extra year of UFA, so accordingly, JG's should be just a little bit less.

If BT wants to sign him to a 7.501x8 just to appease an ego, either Johnny's or his agent's, then that's fine by me. I've been expecting the Tarasenko deal all off-season.

Then once JG signs, I'd expect Kucherov to get done, for about 200k less per season within a few days. I'm much more interested to see how the Risto, Lindholm, and Trouba situations turn out. That could be quite entertaining.
 
SKRusty said:
First off Toews is likely the most complete player in the NHL. He plays the toughest minutes of any forward in the league. The only reason he doesn't end up at the top of scoring every year is he understands what it takes to win. And then there is the leadership.

Monahan is molding himself after Toews and if Calgary ever wins a cup it will be because of his dedication to being the best player he can be.

As I said the Flames management knows where the skill and money needs to be. BT will do what is best for the Flames.
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In saying BT will do whats best for the Flames, I would be a bit worried. Glenny boy as your head coach, may not have been such a wise decision.
 
And suddenly deal for 20 year old rising talent for 6m/7y aint all that bad when you think of Col's best offensive talent. Now Gaudreau is already 23 and so much closer to his prime seasons and bigger point totals so far
 
DJJones said:
If anyone actually read the article, Francis goes on to say that there is no way Gaudreau gets 8 and they will settle for around 7
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one thing I've learned since moving here 2 years ago... NEVER TRUST Eric Francis!

at the deadline he mentioned in an article about of getting high end prospects for wideman, hudler and russell... :yo:

Skobel24 said:
Almost everything Eric Francis says is basically speculation. No real facts or sources to back stuff up.
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yeah that's what I figured out... seems like we have better source than him
 
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alpine4life said:
one thing I've learned since moving here 2 years ago... NEVER TRUST Eric Francis!

at the deadline he mentioned in an article about of getting high end prospects for wideman, hudler and russell... :yo:
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Almost everything Eric Francis says is basically speculation. No real facts or sources to back stuff up.
 
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