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Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames

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vannuckles

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Johnny Hoxville said:
There's a stigma about smaller players and them getting hurt easier. Why did Gaudreau never get in the NCAA? In fact I don't recall him missing anytime due to injury. Big players get hurt all the time, Lindros being the prime example. Cam Neely is another guy who played a physical game and had his career cut short due to playng style, his size didn't help him unfortunately. I'd even go so far as to say Gaudreau might be less prone to injury because he's less involved in the physical aspect of hockey. With the advancements in concussions, we've seen stars like Crosby and Bergeron rebound after suffering from severe recurring ones. The fact that Gaudreau has virtually no injury history should logically suggest that he's a durable player.
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Physics.

You act like he is never going to get caught. How many times, do you think a small framed player like him, can take this kind of treatment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMtkur4bEAw If he was bigger, I doubt he gets that kind of whiplash from that hit. He barely drilled him there.
 
InfinityIggy

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vannuckles said:
What my point is, was your first line had three points in the first four games against a heavy team in the Ducks. He was nullified to an extent, by the Ducks. In the playoffs, if a first line only generates 3 points in four games, there is a problem. What changes in another playoff game, with two of the same players on the first line...
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Gaudreau had 3 points in the final 3 games, PPG is not 'nullified', the line was playing poorly because the 2/3rds of it not named Gaudreau were injured. Which part of that are you struggling with?
 
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vannuckles said:
Physics.

You act like he is never going to get caught. How many times, do you think a small framed player like him, can take this kind of treatment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMtkur4bEAw If he was bigger, I doubt he gets that kind of whiplash from that hit. He barely drilled him there.
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If he was bigger his head goes right into the boards instead of missing it entirely.

Pretty terrible example on your part really.
 
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If he was bigger his head goes right into the boards instead of missing it entirely.

Pretty terrible example on your part really.
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I didn't even have to look at the vid, from memory I knew it was another embarrassment from vannuckles trying to slam Gaudreau.
 

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You are coming across as pretty salty to be honest. I get it though, it would be horrible being a Canucks fan and watching the two rival teams from Alberta getting stacked with young talent.
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all while the Canucks haven't even admitted to themselves that they need a full rebuild.
 
vannuckles

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I am ready for the cheers of glee here.

I am done, you guys win.

Size does not matter in the playoffs, when you're Johnny Hockey. On the flipside, you can bet your ass, I will be back when he makes it to the playoffs, and gets murdered.
 
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vannuckles said:
3 points in the final three playoff games, warrants him being a superstar...There are plenty players who put up more points than that in the playoffs, that are not superstars, or getting 8 mill a season.

Bonino put up 18 points in 24 playoff games ffs.
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Wait, you said he was shut down by the ducks. 3 points in 3 games tells a different story, especially when he walked all over them for one assist and scored one of the most clutch goals of the playoffs.
 

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vannuckles said:
Who said I don't know we need a rebuild. I am aware of it, but please don't tell me Calgary's rebuild is any better.
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Haha what an absurd statement. Brodie, Monahan, Johnny and Bennett are all better players/prospects then the Canucks have. Tkachuk/Juolevi is a wash. Tanev is pretty decent but hes no Brodie.
 
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Haha what an absurd statement. Brodie, Monahan, Johnny and Bennett are all better players/prospects then the Canucks have. Tkachuk/Juolevi is a wash. Tanev is pretty decent but hes no Brodie.
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This is true but factoring in Horvat, Virtanen and Boeser the Canucks youth up front doesn't look that bad considering they haven't really started their rebuild yet.
 
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vannuckles said:
I am ready for the cheers of glee here.

I am done, you guys win.

Size does not matter in the playoffs, when your Johnny Hockey. On the flipside, you can bet your ass, I will be back when he makes it to the playoffs, and gets murdered.
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No, but you seem to continually ignore (and thus come across as salty), is that it was his first playoff series. To judge a rookie, on such a small sample size really shows how much you are grasping at straws here. If you look at the larger sample size, Johnny has shown he has an elite level hockey IQ and skillset. But I'm sure you being a Canucks fan has nothing to do with that, you know because Virtanen will be so much better in the playoffs.
 
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Johnny Hoxville said:
What would cause a bigger wreck, 2 semis going to head to head, or a semi and smart car? The factor in the smart car can pivot on a dime and possesses elite edge work.
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Biggest overall wreck is the 2 semis. The semi vs smartcar, well... the smartcar may be able to avoid some wrecks with maneuverability, but when the semi does hit it all that's left is a smear on the road.

Probably not the best analogy if you're trying to imply Johnny Trademark is durable.
 
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Biggest overall wreck is the 2 semis. The semi vs smartcar, well... the smartcar may be able to avoid some wrecks with maneuverability, but when the semi does hit it all that's left is a smear on the road.

Probably not the best analogy if you're trying to imply Johnny Trademark is durable.
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I disagree, I strongly believe that bigger players are more prone to long term injuries because they're more susceptible to physical play. A lot like how RB's in NFL have the shortest shelf life. In theory a player like Gaudreau should have a long career.

Also haven't you heard, smart cars are incredibly safe ;)
 

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Johnny Hoxville said:
I disagree, I strongly believe that bigger players are more prone to long term injuries because they're more susceptible to physical play. A lot like how RB's in NFL have the shortest shelf life. In theory a player like Gaudreau should have a long career.

Also haven't you heard, smart cars are incredibly safe ;)
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This is no just a matter of belief but also something this study supports:

http://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=honors
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils

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Spazkat said:
Biggest overall wreck is the 2 semis. The semi vs smartcar, well... the smartcar may be able to avoid some wrecks with maneuverability, but when the semi does hit it all that's left is a smear on the road.

Probably not the best analogy if you're trying to imply Johnny Trademark is durable.
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Too bad the actual research disagrees with the idea that being small makes you less durable.
 
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vannuckles said:
Oilers have FAR more upside than Calgary in my opinion. Calgary is hardly stacked man. I still like Vancouver's chances against the Flames moving forward. We have a decent group of youngsters, that I am not too worried about. You guys took Shink (who I liked) who could not crack Vancouver, Vey (who I despised), and Gulutzen from us, have fun with that. On the flip side, you guys dumped that tool Wisebroad on us, who is responsible for some BS :shakehead
If you think I am salty about your youngsters (that we did not want or really need), you are wrong. I will refrain from bashing the Flames until the end of the season :sarcasm:
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I'm flattered you're saltier about the Flames than the Oilers. How it should be.
 
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