Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames

[JAK]

Flames should push for a 3 years bridge deal, 3x6m range.

Or sign him to a 1 year stop gap, give him $7m, let the media speculate and allow the media to hammer him with questions, basically distract him all year long and hope he collapses for the year, then sign him next summer to a 8 year 6.5m deal.
it's not like the Flames are hoping to challenge for the cup this year anyways

 

[PG Canuck]

Flames should push for a 3 years bridge deal, 3x6m range.

Or sign him to a 1 year stop gap, give him $7m, let the media speculate and allow the media to hammer him with questions, basically distract him all year long and hope he collapses for the year, then sign him next summer to a 8 year 6.5m deal.
it's not like the Flames are hoping to challenge for the cup this year anyways

Sounds like a foolproof plan.

 

[JAK]

Sounds like a foolproof plan.

Of course it is, as a Canucks fan, either Flames pay up for $9m a year later, or JG flops to a bust, win-win for us.

 

[vannuckles]

The fact that it was a 4-0 game entering the 3rd period, and how it turned 6-0 within 2 and a half minutes into the 3rd probably played a factor into it. I guarantee if the game was a 2-1 or 3-2 game, Johnny would not have been benched.

This is also the only thing you bring up for your argument towards how Gaudreau is small and isn't made for playoff hockey, and as a rookie he was our best offensive player in the playoffs. I guess haters just gonna hate.

Yeah, I am a hater (such a cheesy saying) haha, more like a realist. His line was good for only THREE points in the first four games against the Ducks. Look how easy the ducks shut him down.

Good for you guys, if he is your best player in the playoffs. I would not want to depend on a kid who is 5ft9-155 lbs to carry my team in the playoffs. I will take a Kopitar, any day of the week over Johnny.

Cry about my argument all you want, I have endured Flames fans telling me how Johnny is one of the most durable players in the league, he is as good as McDavid, better than Hall, he is a superstar, he is Patty Kane 2.0 and his size does not matter (totally ignoring Physics). Enough already.

He is an offensive machine, and a smart player, yes. He is fun to watch for sure. I have already stated that, and am not denying it, but he is 5ft9 and 155-ish pounds. I personally would not want to depend on him, over someone like Hall.

If you guys think he is worth 7.5-8 so be it. If he is asking for more than 7.5 or more for 6-8 seasons, and he gets it, I will LOVE IT. I just don't know if it is worth the chance come playoff time, when the intensity is jacked up. That would be a massive loss, when you depend on him so much.

 

[Tripod]

Offer him the same deal as Tarasenko...7.5 for 8 years. That way the Flames get him for him 23-30 year old seasons....becoming a UFA to start his 31 year old season. Then walk away and let someone else overpay for his 31-36 year old, declining years that carry much more risk.

 

[PaulGG]

7M tops for this guy, Tarasenko was overpaid a bit.

 

[sabresfan129103]

I think he could score 90 points this season. Just give him the 8 million.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Yeah, I am a hater (such a cheesy saying) haha, more like a realist. His line was good for only THREE points in the first four games against the Ducks. Look how easy the ducks shut him down.

Good for you guys, if he is your best player in the playoffs. I would not want to depend on a kid who is 5ft9-155 lbs to carry my team in the playoffs. I will take a Kopitar, any day of the week over Johnny.

Cry about my argument all you want, I have endured Flames fans telling me how Johnny is one of the most durable players in the league, he is as good as McDavid, better than Hall, he is a superstar, he is Patty Kane 2.0 and his size does not matter (totally ignoring Physics). Enough already.

He is an offensive machine, and a smart player, yes. He is fun to watch for sure. I have already stated that, and am not denying it, but he is 5ft9 and 155-ish pounds. I personally would not want to depend on him, over someone like Hall.

If you guys think he is worth 7.5-8 so be it. If he is asking for more than 7.5 or more for 6-8 seasons, and he gets it, I will LOVE IT. I just don't know if it is worth the chance come playoff time, when the intensity is jacked up. That would be a massive loss, when you depend on him so much.

This post just comes off like your salty that the Canucks don't have a player nearly as talented as Gaudreau in their system if I'm being honest.

You know teams win, is by scoring right? Gaudreau right now, is one of the top 10 best players in the world at generating offence and scoring chances. You are making your comments based on watching a 21 year old player in his rookie season. I remember a time when Datsyuk and Zetterberg were constantly being criticized for not producing in the playoffs. Well they got over that hump eventually and made the critics look foolish. Gaudreau still produced in the playoffs so your argument is laughable. I am more than happy to build my offence around a player that can control the puck like Crosby in the offensive zone.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Pay dat man his money.

 

[King In The North]

This post just comes off like your salty that the Canucks don't have a player nearly as talented as Gaudreau in their system if I'm being honest.

You know teams win, is by scoring right? Gaudreau right now, is one of the top 10 best players in the world at generating offence and scoring chances. You are making your comments based on watching a 21 year old player in his rookie season. I remember a time when Datsyuk and Zetterberg were constantly being criticized for not producing in the playoffs. Well they got over that hump eventually and made the critics look foolish. Gaudreau still produced in the playoffs so your argument is laughable. I am more than happy to build my offence around a player that can control the puck like Crosby in the offensive zone.

Anyone remember Crosby's first playoff performance or do people's memory not extend that far?

The good thing about Calgary is it's looking like we won't have 1 single person "carrying" us to playoffs. We're becoming pretty good down the middle and on the wings now too.

I wonder how they'd view Gaudreau if he was on the Canucks dragging them along

 

[LondonKendrick]

Does anyone really think Gaudreau will be perennially in the top ten of league scoring? Last season was one of those fluke years where a defenseman was top five in scoring. Pavalski and Panarin among the top ten.

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

 

[frag2]

He didn't for the same reason Draisaitl hasn't signed his extension yet.

I thought the thread was discussing Gaudreau. Not sure why a Flames fan needs to inject Oilers players into discussion

 

[blankall]

Does anyone really think Gaudreau will be perennially in the top ten of league scoring? Last season was one of those fluke years where a defenseman was top five in scoring. Pavalski and Panarin among the top ten.

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

Gaudreau has a good chance to be in the top 10 every year. His production is very consistent.

It's also been more than 1 year. In his rookie campaign, after working his way up to full top 6 minutes, about half way through the season, he produced at the same rate.He's doing great at the World Cup right now too. Just watch the guy play. He's not getting points from "being in the right situation", getting lucky chances, or having the right linemates. He produces his own offence, and there's no reason he can't keep doing that.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Gaudreau has a good chance to be in the top 10 every year. His production is very consistent.

It's also been more than 1 year. In his rookie campaign, after working his way up to full top 6 minutes, about half way through the season, he produced at the same rate.He's doing great at the World Cup right now too. Just watch the guy play. He's not getting points from "being in the right situation", getting lucky chances, or having the right linemates. He produces his own offence, and there's no reason he can't keep doing that.

Yeah and maybe Blake Wheeler wins the Hart this year, I mean he had about as good a year as Johny Hockey last year. If you have a good year then you definitely will be as good or better the next, that's how it works.

 

[Gaunce4gm]

Too small a sample size. You guys should know that. Jiri Hudler was just top 10 in league scoring a couple years ago. Aren't you glad you didn't give him 8M a year?

 

[Mitts]

Does anyone really think Gaudreau will be perennially in the top ten of league scoring? Last season was one of those fluke years where a defenseman was top five in scoring. Pavalski and Panarin among the top ten.

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

It's pretty simple, you watch a player, does he have game or is he just on a hot streak ? Is he just benefiting from of playing with great linemates, or does he drive the play. If you have watched Gaudreau a decent amount you will know the answer to these questions, and know it's not just some fluke.

 

[YEM]

Does anyone really think Gaudreau will be perennially in the top ten of league scoring? Last season was one of those fluke years where a defenseman was top five in scoring. Pavalski and Panarin among the top ten.

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

he was an elite scorer in college
he played extremely well as an undersized rookie
he followed that up with a great second season
he has great vision, great hands, great puck control, great instincts, etc

so yes, I think many, many people would see him as close to or over a PPG scorer in this league for years to come...

 

[Backlund]

Too small a sample size. You guys should know that. Jiri Hudler was just top 10 in league scoring a couple years ago. Aren't you glad you didn't give him 8M a year?

Hudler was top 10 in scoring because he played with Gaudreau.

 

[FeedingFrenzy]

Does anyone really think Gaudreau will be perennially in the top ten of league scoring? Last season was one of those fluke years where a defenseman was top five in scoring. Pavalski and Panarin among the top ten.

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

Pavelski is no fluke, and Burns/Karlsson will be near the top again this year.

I am on the side that thinks a bridge deal would best in the case of Gaudreau. He wasn't drafted #1, had 2 great seasons, but still has a lot to prove to justify over 7 million. And to those looking for a Taresenko deal, he was overpaid too by 750k-1mil per year,IMO.
2yr/12mil to prove it.He will get his big payday after his 4th or 5th year in the league after proving he is worth 7.5 mil.

 

[Figgy44]

Yeah, I am a hater (such a cheesy saying) haha, more like a realist. His line was good for only THREE points in the first four games against the Ducks. Look how easy the ducks shut him down.

Good for you guys, if he is your best player in the playoffs. I would not want to depend on a kid who is 5ft9-155 lbs to carry my team in the playoffs. I will take a Kopitar, any day of the week over Johnny.

Sophomore Monahan and old man Hudler were both injured that series and less effective. The Ducks were giving rookie Gaudreau body and stick massages. You're acting as if an experienced and healthy Ducks team shutting down a rookie Gaudreau is surprising.

The Kopitar comment doesn't even make sense. At least choose someone comparable.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

I kind of like Calgary, handedd Gaudreau 8 x 8 for one year? Not big enough sample size.

That's one of the big arguments in management's favour: he's only had two years in the league, only one of which was elite offensively (although his rookie year was really damn good - not 8 million dollars good, though). His agent can ask for 8 all he wants, but unless Treliving gets hit in the head between now and contract signing, there's absolutely no reason Gaudreau should get it.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Flames should push for a 3 years bridge deal, 3x6m range.

Or sign him to a 1 year stop gap, give him $7m, let the media speculate and allow the media to hammer him with questions, basically distract him all year long and hope he collapses for the year, then sign him next summer to a 8 year 6.5m deal.
it's not like the Flames are hoping to challenge for the cup this year anyways

Easier said than done. Gaudreau has to be willing to take a bridge deal. If he is truly playing hardball on a long term deal, the only resolution might be going 4 years. Flames get a more manageable cap hit and the opportunity to either extend or trade him in the final year, Gaudreau takes less money but gets to cash in as a UFA sooner.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Am I missing something? as far I know Tarasenko signed an 8 year $60 million contract right after the 3rd year of his ELC.

I was incorrect, that is what he did.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Easier said than done. Gaudreau has to be willing to take a bridge deal. If he is truly playing hardball on a long term deal, the only resolution might be going 4 years. Flames get a more manageable cap hit and the opportunity to either extend or trade him in the final year, Gaudreau takes less money but gets to cash in as a UFA sooner.

How many years until JG is a UFA? I would think any bridge deal would go up until one year prior to UFA status so the Flames can have the opportunity to offer a long term deal at that time, no?

 

[go4hockey]

This makes an Oilers fan in me smile

Don't smile to big. Your a lotto team and already tight with the cap and once McJesus hits a 2nd deal you will be the one dealing with the big pay day.