TV: Game of Thrones | Season 6 | Part V (NO BOOK DISCUSSION - NO SPOILERS!)

[Blender]

 

[Emperoreddy]

- She told them that Ramsay got a raven about it before the left. She actually learned of it by meeting with Littlefinger in Mole's Town.

- Apparently he has that power, as the vision didn't collapse when the Three Eyed Raven died.

- There are more than 3 White Walkers, some of the earlier episodes of shown more. I assume in a normal battle they won't be at the front lines, like at Hardhome where they sat back until most of the damage was done.

There also is only about 14 Valeryin steel swords in the kingdoms, and we know at least one is buried with Goff.

There is dragon glass, but most likely not that much.

 

[F L Y E R S]

* Is it just me or do the WhiteWalkers seem painfully easy to defeat now, all things considered? There's only three (?) guys who aren't afraid of fire-- they can be killed in one hit with Dragon Glass or Valerian steel. Everyone else you can just divert by setting the place on fire. They also have nothing that comes close to resembling a counter against Dragons, who can light them up easily.

Not so sure. Believe there's so few of Valerian steel and dragon glass currently in Westeros. I'm guessing the Night's King can control the weather, and create insanely windy blizzard like weather to counter the dragons in the air.

 

[darko]

* Is it just me or do the WhiteWalkers seem painfully easy to defeat now, all things considered? There's only three (?) guys who aren't afraid of fire-- they can be killed in one hit with Dragon Glass or Valerian steel. Everyone else you can just divert by setting the place on fire. They also have nothing that comes close to resembling a counter against Dragons, who can light them up easily.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more.

Remember the WW with the baby on an alter thingy in S2 or 3? There was about 12-15 White Walkers standing in the background.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Hey man I'm not saying it's bad. I just don't understand it.

I think it is a human condition for a lot of people. Depends on how much you personally devote your enjoyment out of the outcomes of a show. Though I could be talking out of my ass, here.

I personally teared up and became incredulous at the entire situation because of how much of a gut punch it was. I don't sweat the fact probably a lot of people weren't nearly as affected as myself.

 

[No More Subban]

Whitewalkers are easy to defeat if you have dragon glass/valyrian steel and have a free shot, yeah. But at the same time how many people currently in Westeros have that? Three maybe?

They also left all the dragonglass back in Hardhome.

Jon and Brienne have valyrian swords. Maybe also Tommen, the one from Joffrey.

Maybe Jaime has one too. He's got to have one, with all that money.

 

[darko]

They also left all the dragonglass back in Hardhome.

Jon and Brienne have valyrian swords. Maybe also Tommen, the one from Joffrey.

Maybe Jaime has one too. He's got to have one, with all that money.

Jamie gave his to Brienne.

 

[Blender]

They also left all the dragonglass back in Hardhome.

Jon and Brienne have valyrian swords. Maybe also Tommen, the one from Joffrey.

Maybe Jaime has one too. He's got to have one, with all that money.

I think they buried Widow's Wail with Joffrey. Jaime doesn't have one. Tywin made Oathkeeper for him, and he gave it to Brienne. Jon has Longclaw. The only other one we've seen is that dagger from season 1, iirc.

 

[Shareefruck]

Whitewalkers are easy to defeat if you have dragon glass/valyrian steel and have a free shot, yeah. But at the same time how many people currently in Westeros have that? Three maybe?

But it looks like there's only three guys in the entire White-Walker army that are a threat, and they can be killed in one hit.

I think I would prefer if they can only be damaged by Valerian/Dragon Glass, but not to the extent that they shatter to pieces on contact.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Wonder if Brienne's sword will come up in conversation at some point.

Sansa "Nice sword, where did you get it from?"

Brienne "Oh it used to be your fathers"

 

[SK13]

Stannis mentioned that there's Obsidian back in Dragonstone.

Considering that Dragonglass is just glass forged from Dragon fire, I think there are three pretty good ways to make more of it.

 

[Shareefruck]

No. No, no. It was obviously necessary to go back to "create" Hodor. And it wasn't really as a contrived plot device... it was because Bran had to learn the extraordinary responsibility that comes with his gift. Bloodraven's time had run out, and it was what had to be done for Bran to learn how to "be" Bloodraven.

I mentioned that in the sentence immediately after. It's an explanation alright, but it doesn't look right on screen.

 

[Quinning]

Season 6 has been so much better than 5 so far.

Though nothing has topped Hardhome.

 

[Shareefruck]

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more.

Remember the WW with the baby on an alter thingy in S2 or 3? There was about 12-15 White Walkers standing in the background.

Ahh, right, forgot about that.

 

[Poochie_D]

Hate that Sansa lied to Jon. Yes, play the game and be a player with outsiders but not your brother who's going to lead their army and re-take Winterfell.

 

[Random Forest]

I mentioned that in the sentence immediately after. It's an explanation alright, but it doesn't look right on screen.

It looked fantastic on screen. The whole exchange between Bloodraven, Bran, and Wyllis made it exceedingly clear what the purpose was. Bloodraven controls the strings, and Bran has the power to do so, but still doesn't understand the sheer scope of his power. So how else could that wisdom be imparted on Bran in so little time? You could physically see Bran's realization as he understood what had to be done while looking at young Hodor. I thought it was brilliant.

 

[darko]

So why did Children of the Forrest create White Walkers? To help them fight off Andals/First Men?

 

[StrangeVision]

So why did Children of the Forrest create White Walkers? To help them fight off Andals/First Men?

Yes.

 

[darko]

Season 6 has been so much better than 5 so far.

Though nothing has topped Hardhome.

And most likely nothing will top it.

Not a knock on the show. Hardhome was just that good.

 

[Garo]

Hate that Sansa lied to Jon. Yes, play the game and be a player with outsiders but not your brother who's going to lead their army and re-take Winterfell.

I think she worries that Jon and the Northerners wouldn't accept the Vale as easily if she told them about Littlefinger. By minimizing his role she's looking to bring them both - Vale and Riverlands - under her name.

 

[Shareefruck]

It looked fantastic on screen. The whole exchange between Bloodraven, Bran, and Wyllis made it exceedingly clear what the purpose was. Bloodraven controls the strings, and Bran has the power to do so, but still doesn't understand the sheer scope of his power. So how else could that wisdom be imparted on Bran in so little time? You could physically see Bran's realization as he understood what had to be done while looking at young Hodor. I thought it was brilliant.

It makes sense after the fact, but optically I thought it looked a little silly/awkward leading up to it. It would have been good if there was at least a bit of misdirection in the flashback dialogue. Have the scene actually look like it might be about something rather than showing them sleeping during the attack followed by them standing, smiling (?), and watching nothing happening in the flashback until the reveal.

Edit: PLEASE don't turn into this another thing. It's just how I naturally reacted to it.

 

[Blender]

It makes sense after the fact, but optically I thought it looked a little silly/awkward leading up to it. It would have been good if there was at least a bit of misdirection in the flashback dialogue. Have the scene actually look like it might be about something rather than showing them sleeping during the attack followed by them standing, smiling (?), and watching nothing happening in the flashback until the reveal.

Bran was smiling because his grandfather was seeing his father off before he left for the Vale.

 

[Random Forest]

It makes sense after the fact, but optically I thought it looked a little silly/awkward leading up to it. It would have been good if there was at least a bit of misdirection in the flashback dialogue. Have the scene actually look like it might be about something rather than showing them sleeping during the attack followed by them standing, smiling (?), and watching nothing happening in the flashback until the reveal.

Seems to me that would have made less sense if presented this way. I mean, they had to go into Hodor's past, so I'm not sure how else they could have framed it. Not sure why we would want more misdirection when your complaint is that it didn't make enough sense as it was happening.

 

[Lebowski]

It's bugging me how Bran wasn't warned beforehand about being "touched" by the White Walkers in his visions, because clearly the Raven knows the risks and consequences.

 

[HanSolo]

What a finish to that episode. I thought it was great.

As though I needed more evidence that Jon and Dany are the show's heroes; now they both have Red Priestess' supporting them.

Speaking of that scene with Varys was excellent.

I honestly thought most of the episode was fantastic but I'll agree that the Euron stuff was rushed. Either that or the Ironborn are the most easily swayed constituency of all time. They go from "yeah Yara should be our queen" to "yeah let's go kill Yara and her brother cause Euron said so" in a matter of minutes.

That said I'm glad to see the Iron born finally relevant. I had a feeling once Dany's ships were burned, they or Dorne would back her. But I thought it would be through Yara not Euron. Though the reasoning makes a lot more sense for it to have been Euron's idea.