TV: Game of Thrones | Season 6 | Part V (NO BOOK DISCUSSION - NO SPOILERS!)

[Lebowski]

So it was necessary to neuter Hodor's mind in the past so that Bran could warg into him while less powerful in the future? Do i understand that right? But if he's now powerful enough to warg into intact-minded Hodor in the past, surely he would be strong enough to warg into him now with a healthy mind.

I'm confused as to why the whole in the past warging was necessary.

Time travel is always full of paradox and needs to be taken with a grain of salt...

My take on it is that Willys had to become Hodor at that point or else future Hodor may have never come to team up with Bran.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

How did Yara know that he was the one who killed Balon, anyway?

I think just pure suspicion. She suspected Theon having an ulterior motive for returning, so why not Euron?

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

With Bran having the Night's King mark on him if he goes through the tunnel through the Wall it will negate the magic barrier and the dead and walkers can go through.

Interesting.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I didn't really like her decision to say no to Vale army. I would have taken Littlefinger captive and locked him in prison in Castle Black. Send someone (or raven) to Robyn or Royce to agree on alliance and after Winterfell was captured would tell leaders of Vale what Littlefinger did - sending her to Boltons and killing Lysa - and let them exact their punishment for him.... ♪ I belive i can fly.. ♪

Do agree that Sansa was a bit naive when talking about how loyal some houses are to Starks, but i guess we'll see.

Agreed. It reeks of something that Ned, Cat, or Robb would do (choosing honor over a strategical advantage), and that didn't work out too well for them.

With Bran having the Night's King mark on him if he goes through the tunnel through the Wall it will negate the magic barrier and the dead and walkers can go through.

How do you know this?

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

This time "time travel" and having influence on the past opens up so many doors (heh) of possibilities here. Is the Three-Eyed Raven an eternal position, like an eternal loop? Was that an old Bran?

So many things that they mentioned in the past now are open to the possibility of being set in motion by Bran's powers. I think Hodor was a mere glimpse of what's to come. They can really mess the story up with this, but there is potential to be really good. I just hope they proceed with caution

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

How do you know this?

I don't think anyone knows but I don't think it would be an unreasonable jump since the Night's King mark destroyed the magic seal on the Weirwood tree.

 

[TP]

Gotta love the internet sometimes...

I haven't read more than that post in that thread so proceeed with caution but I quoted the post below if you don't even want to bother.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/26325-what-does-hodor-mean/&page=2#comment-1236224



From February 20th, 2008.

Get the **** out of here!

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I don't think anyone knows but I don't think it would be an unreasonable jump since the Night's King mark destroyed the magic seal on the Weirwood tree.

Then why doesn't the Night's King just walk through the tunnel first? The walkers and dead could also get through that way.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So Hodor is gonna come back as a white walker, yes?

A wight, not a white walker.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

Then why doesn't the Night's King just walk through the tunnel first? The walkers and dead could also get through that way.

That's a fair point, maybe the Night's King didn't know that Bran was in the tree and him touching him led him there? Not sure. Maybe the Night's King touching him while in the tree tapped him into the tree... I don't know! haha.

 

[TP]

A wight, not a white walker.

Are we sure about that?


He was killed by white walkers, wouldn't that make him a white walker, instead of a wight?

 

[Bones Malone]

With Bran having the Night's King mark on him if he goes through the tunnel through the Wall it will negate the magic barrier and the dead and walkers can go through.

I was actually going to throw my idea out there along these lines when I caught up with this thread.

Bran is now marked by the NK
NK can find him anywhere now and magic is broken because of this
Bran and Meera have no crew and nowhere to go and are pretty much defensless
The obvious choice to me would be for them to head back to Westeros where they can try to find siblings/people/something that hopefully isn't going to try to kill them

Brandon Stark son Of Ned "Winter Is Coming" Stark is the catalyst for winter coming

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

Are we sure about that?


He was killed by white walkers, wouldn't that make him a white walker, instead of a wight?

I think from what we've seen, there's a process into becoming an actual white walker vs. just a reanimated wight. There was a ritual or something back in season 4 I believe...

 

[Random Forest]

Are we sure about that?


He was killed by white walkers, wouldn't that make him a white walker, instead of a wight?

No, for one, White Walkers are never actually dead. They're converted from life to blue-eyed ice monsters. Wights are just reanimated corpses.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

That's a fair point, maybe the Night's King didn't know that Bran was in the tree and him touching him led him there? Not sure. Maybe the Night's King touching him while in the tree tapped him into the tree... I don't know! haha.

Haha, didn't mean to back you into a corner! Just asking questions. You're definitely right about your first point, Bran probably would've sat in the tree his entire life (like the raven before him) if he hadn't been touched.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Back to back weeks with awesome endings.

Feels like they have way too much going on though, some stories get almost no air time certain weeks. Absosutely nothing at kings landing this week which i'm really looking forward toward.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The vote for lord commander was much closer than that. They had more than 7 people who didn't like Jon Snow

Just because they voted for Thorne or Mallister, doesn't mean they all wanted to kill Jon

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That scene with the flaming arrow was a beaut. One shot, done.

That was so awesome. Walking away before the arrow even hit the boat haha. I miss that character. The last ever words on the show so far by him were "My lord, my lady. I need to find a tree to piss on"

 

[Blender]

Are we sure about that?


He was killed by white walkers, wouldn't that make him a white walker, instead of a wight?

No he wasn't. Hodor was killed by wights who were trying to chase after Bran and Meera when he was holding the door.

 

[Blender]

That was so awesome. Walking away before the arrow even hit the boat haha. I miss that character. The last ever words on the show so far by him were "My lord, my lady. I need to find a tree to piss on"

The Blackfish was such a great character in his very short time on the show. I really hope we see him again when Brienne and Pod go to Riverrun.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Hardhome was the only episode where I stared at the screen at the end and didn't know what to say.

The Mountain vs The Viper (S04E08) I had the exact same response. Staring at the end credits for 5 minutes.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

I was actually going to throw my idea out there along these lines when I caught up with this thread.

Bran is now marked by the NK
NK can find him anywhere now and magic is broken because of this
Bran and Meera have no crew and nowhere to go and are pretty much defensless
The obvious choice to me would be for them to head back to Westeros where they can try to find siblings/people/something that hopefully isn't going to try to kill them

Brandon Stark son Of Ned "Winter Is Coming" Stark is the catalyst for winter coming

Yeah -- certainly seems plausible. Good job Bran.

I don't really fault him though, for the initial branch grab (since, what, he's like a young teen at this point?), and if the above comes to fruition, because how would he know?

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Their motivations is still beyond us. Are they just fulfilling their program by cleansing the world of men? Have they created a new purpose for themselves? Until we get another vision or one finally speaks we don't know yet.

Kind of get a parallel "A.I. taking over in the future" vibe from that interpretation (which I happen to agree with).

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Where did Meera get the Dragonglass spear from that she threw at the Walker?

One of the children of the forest that just died

Or, she got it from Sam who handed out dragonglass to them in S03E10 when they met at the wall (When Sam said "And for the archer")

 

[Random Forest]

Or, she got it from Sam who handed out dragonglass to them in S03E10 when they met at the wall (When Sam said "And for the archer")

As she runs back into the cave after seeing the army of the dead outside, there's like five spears against the wall, and she picks one up.