GDT: Game 76: Columbus vs. New Jersey | 3/31 7PM EDT

[EspenK]

won't be worth the cost to move up, if anything, moving down might be a good option. we still can choose from Provorov, Werenski, Rantanen, Crouse where we are now. then maybe use our 2nds to sneak back into the late first round where good guys will inevitably fall.

in other words, i'm going to enjoy these wins regardless

We keep winning and all those guys could be fond memories by the time we get around to it. We currently sit 8th but are only 6 points out of 11th.

I for one am not happy about the winning streak. Happy they are playing good but not happy about moving down the list. If we reversed gears and finished with 6 L's and fell back to the 6th spot I would be happier than if we continue winning and wind up 11th or 12th.

Short term pleasure at the expense of a better chance to win the lottery and a better chance of getting the guy we really want is just foolish,imo. But different strokes for different folks.

 

[NotWendell]

I'm happy that the boys didn't quit on the season until somebody else eliminated us. Now, it's all about next season. Let the auditions begin. No tanking, but let's see what we have with the kids and the RFAs and improve our draft position.

 

[NotWendell]

... on the 7th goal of the season for #7.

CBJ goalscorers:
71
17
7

7 in a row. Weird!

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

And the Easter Bunny isn't coming until Sunday!!

Can this week get any better?

 

[jackets4life]

Haven't read the thread yet, but I would like to nominate Calvert-Letestu-Morin as our permanent 4th line going into next season. Those guys had more than a few shifts where they set the tone of the game.

 

[DJA]

We keep winning and all those guys could be fond memories by the time we get around to it. We currently sit 8th but are only 6 points out of 11th.

I for one am not happy about the winning streak. Happy they are playing good but not happy about moving down the list. If we reversed gears and finished with 6 L's and fell back to the 6th spot I would be happier than if we continue winning and wind up 11th or 12th.

Short term pleasure at the expense of a better chance to win the lottery and a better chance of getting the guy we really want is just foolish,imo. But different strokes for different folks.

All of the guys in the locker room and in the front office disagree with you, but you're certainly entitled to spend the next couple of weeks in misery.

 

[Socks]

I don't want to lose. Ever. No matter what the situation. Losing sucks and feels bad. Winning is good and feels good.

 

[NotWendell]

Haven't read the thread yet, but I would like to nominate Calvert-Letestu-Morin as our permanent 4th line going into next season. Those guys had more than a few shifts where they set the tone of the game.

Amen to that!

 

[CBJx614]

CBJ goalscorers:
71
17
7

7 in a row. Weird!

Its the hockey gods telling us that we're going to win the lottery.

 

[db2011]

We keep winning and all those guys could be fond memories by the time we get around to it. We currently sit 8th but are only 6 points out of 11th.

I for one am not happy about the winning streak. Happy they are playing good but not happy about moving down the list. If we reversed gears and finished with 6 L's and fell back to the 6th spot I would be happier than if we continue winning and wind up 11th or 12th.

Short term pleasure at the expense of a better chance to win the lottery and a better chance of getting the guy we really want is just foolish,imo. But different strokes for different folks.

Man, you are driving me absolutely crazy. The draft is so overhyped, and guys like you just eat it up. Winning championships is the culmination of tons of different things. The signing of a "generational talent" to turn the fortunes of a franchise is either a total myth (which is what I think) or else the few times it has happened are the exceptions that prove the rule. I'd much rather be a team that doesn't need that guy to win- because there are a lot more of those teams throughout history than teams that win because of one draft pick.

The truth is, bad drafting will kill you and good drafting will make you a good to great team. But there is a huge difference between good drafting and high draft picks. For all my aversions to Jarmo, he appears to draft well. He'll do so this draft.

Give it a rest.

 

[Jyrki]

I don't care if our draft position is suffering. What's important is that when this team is remotely healthy, they can kick ass. We have so much young talent coming up anyhow, we don't NEED a top 10 pick to get us back into the playoffs.

 

[Sore Loser]

The truth is, bad drafting will kill you and good drafting will make you a good to great team. But there is a huge difference between good drafting and high draft picks. For all my aversions to Jarmo, he appears to draft well. He'll do so this draft.

I don't agree with your approach to this discussion/debate ... but I'm on your side, especially with this comment.

The Jackets aren't going to fall farther than eighth overall in the draft. They aren't going to win out, and the teams above them in the standings aren't going to lose out. I'm betting they wind up picking seventh or eighth, and like you said here, it's not about where you draft - it's about how you draft. How else can you explain the success of the Detroit Red Wings for so many years?

 

[db2011]

I don't agree with your approach to this discussion/debate ... but I'm on your side, especially with this comment.

The Jackets aren't going to fall farther than eighth overall in the draft. They aren't going to win out, and the teams above them in the standings aren't going to lose out. I'm betting they wind up picking seventh or eighth, and like you said here, it's not about where you draft - it's about how you draft. How else can you explain the success of the Detroit Red Wings for so many years?

They seem to be a great example- they never need to worry about draft positioning because they do everything else so well. And how many Cups has Crosby won again? You can count them on one finger.

 

[major major]

Haven't read the thread yet, but I would like to nominate Calvert-Letestu-Morin as our permanent 4th line going into next season. Those guys had more than a few shifts where they set the tone of the game.

I wasn't going to go that far, but I'm glad you did. We are a better team when we can roll 4 lines who can play hockey.

 

[ca5150]

Morins role wasnt in the top 6 either, but thats what he was forced into. He was brought in as a bottom 6 depth guy, which between his injuries and everybody elses injuries he hasnt been able to be. Im not expecting more than 20 or 30 pts out of him in a full season, but thats what you need from your 3rd and 4th line. They still need to score and play solid defense. Not turning the puck over constantly like the 3rd and 4th lines were doing majority of the season

How do you expect 20-30 pts out of him playing on the 4th line, when he has 4 pts playing on RyJo's wing some nights in the beginning, tonight was one of few nights he's actually played on the 4th line. I don't dislike the kid, he's ok, but he just doesn't fit in a healthy lineup, he's not playing over Boll, just isn't. Boll has been a healthy scratch once this season and I believe it was because he was recently off injury, but I could be wrong, there's been a lot of whiskey this season to drown the sorrows...

 

[ca5150]

Calvert-Letestu-Morin, easily our most skilled 4th line of the year and no surprise they almost score.

I think that has more to do with Calvert than lack of Boll. If you remember, when Calvert was on the 4th line for a 5 game stretch earlier with Boll, they were very effective and got some goals.

 

[ca5150]

I don't care if our draft position is suffering. What's important is that when this team is remotely healthy, they can kick ass. We have so much young talent coming up anyhow, we don't NEED a top 10 pick to get us back into the playoffs.

I agree completely, it's much more important to show the team, fans, management, etc. that when healthy, we can beat anyone. I don't think we need to make as many moves as I thought a month ago. I think our defense has actually come together a bit and I think Tyutin is the only one I would move out of that group, for a offensive D. Forwards, I think we are set for the most part, I would consider a more physical, faster 4th line center, but I wouldn't be opposed to re-signing Letestu but I would prefer a banger with speed on the 4th line. Other than that, I don't think I would make any moves. It's important to build chemistry and keep guys in place for awhile to build a championship team. The young guys, Rychel, Anderson, Bjorkstrand, need another year in the AHL. That's the proper way to develop guys. I don't even think it would be out of place for Dano to spend some more time down there, he's played well but there have been some times he's looked a little lost. I think we are set up pretty good as is, when healthy. I don't care about the draft, I think we take a D with our first pick, and there will be some good ones in the bottom half of the top 10. I want to win out, especially Saturday!

 

[ndd17]

Seven game winning streak, 11 won games in March, it's franchise record. Excellent morning for me. Keep it, Jackets!
Now need to make eight consecutive win.

 

[niflheim]

especially Saturday!

little northern birds for Dubi?

 

[niflheim]

@ Aportzline The inevitable has arrived ... #CBJ eliminated from playoffs with Boston's win over Florida tonight.

But any way nice effort of our guys, team has real fighting instinct

 

[CBJx614]

How do you expect 20-30 pts out of him playing on the 4th line, when he has 4 pts playing on RyJo's wing some nights in the beginning, tonight was one of few nights he's actually played on the 4th line. I don't dislike the kid, he's ok, but he just doesn't fit in a healthy lineup, he's not playing over Boll, just isn't. Boll has been a healthy scratch once this season and I believe it was because he was recently off injury, but I could be wrong, there's been a lot of whiskey this season to drown the sorrows...

Yeah he was on Johansens wing when everybody was hurt and everybody was focusing on his line because absolutely nobody else was scoring. He didnt even play half of a season so lets say stays on the same pace then hes due for what 11 pts, and HOPEFULLY (knocks on wood) we stay healthy and can roll all 4 lines. And if the 4th line consists of Calvert, Letestu/Karlsson and Morin i dont think 20 pts is out of reach for him.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

How else can you explain the success of the Detroit Red Wings for so many years?

Michael Mike Babcock junior deserves some recognition.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I think that has more to do with Calvert than lack of Boll. If you remember, when Calvert was on the 4th line for a 5 game stretch earlier with Boll, they were very effective and got some goals.

That's indicative of Calvert and Letestu then, not Boll.

 

[EspenK]

Man, you are driving me absolutely crazy. The draft is so overhyped, and guys like you just eat it up. Winning championships is the culmination of tons of different things. The signing of a "generational talent" to turn the fortunes of a franchise is either a total myth (which is what I think) or else the few times it has happened are the exceptions that prove the rule. I'd much rather be a team that doesn't need that guy to win- because there are a lot more of those teams throughout history than teams that win because of one draft pick.

The truth is, bad drafting will kill you and good drafting will make you a good to great team. But there is a huge difference between good drafting and high draft picks. For all my aversions to Jarmo, he appears to draft well. He'll do so this draft.

Give it a rest.

If the draft turns out to be over hyped so be it. In the meantime I will continue to listen to the guys who do this for a living. And I will continue to believe the statistics that say the higher your draft pick the better your chance is to have a real good player.I will also continue to believe that finishing strong doesn't guarantee a better next season. Just look at this season versus last season for evidence of that.

Am I glad this team is playing well? Yes. Do I think five years down the road this will have any impact on the team? Just like that fact the Jackets sucked 5 years ago and pretty much for their entire history has absolutely nothing to do with how the team is playing now this current winning season will mean absolutely nothing then. If we draft the best guy we can and it turns out to be the right move that will help in the future. Statistics say the sooner we draft the better the chance of that guy being such a player.

 

[EspenK]

They seem to be a great example- they never need to worry about draft positioning because they do everything else so well. And how many Cups has Crosby won again? You can count them on one finger.

Show me another example, other than Detroit and I will tend to listen to that argument a bit more. And show me all the Cups the Jackets have won without a generational talent.

And it isn't the team worrying about draft position, it is us (or at least some of us), a group of fans, who are talking about it. I get it that the players don't give a crap about it and they will always give their best but once the playoffs are gone I will always say a better draft position is better than winning the last few games.