Post-Game Talk: Game 5

[will1066]

We don't need an Igor. We need a Duncan!

And an average walrus is between 7-12 feet long, about 5,000 LBS.

"How do I feel about Duncan? It's a walrus. It's ridiculous. I'm not gonna stand here and be mad at you guys, you're just doing your jobs as media and asking the questions. But maybe the league needs to do something about it. I don't know. We're trying to win. We're trying to catch him during his sleepies." --Paul Maurice

 

[Metranger]

He wasn't out coached. All Florida did was role four lines and say try and beat us, that's not coaching.

Laviolette did all the coaching he could, he doubled Laf and Panarian, sat the 4th line for extended periods of time and used every opportunity he could to get the bread line away from Barkov and Tkachuck. I think he honestly did the best he could with the players he has.

I meant for tomorrow's game. The lines need a better mix.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Brobrovsky isn't even breaking a sweat out there my man.

Not even close to true. We've had MULTIPLE breakaways alone in this series and 2 last game.

We haven't had anywhere near the amount of volume of dangerous chances but to say he isn't breaking a sweat is comical

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Wheeler gotta be in tomorrow for Rempe. I'd even scratch Roslovic who is lost this series and go 11/7 with Jones tomorrow.

Screw it.

 

[Atax]

He wasn't out coached. All Florida did was role four lines and say try and beat us, that's not coaching.

Laviolette did all the coaching he could, he doubled Laf and Panarian, sat the 4th line for extended periods of time and used every opportunity he could to get the bread line away from Barkov and Tkachuck. I think he honestly did the best he could with the players he has.

My real issue with him is he never adjusted the PP. Laf worked his ass off and became our best player at ES. He was apart of our best line all season. How did the coach reward him? With 15 seconds of PP a game next to likes of Wennberg and Kakko.

Meanwhile, a certain player went like 40 games without an ES goal. Our powerplay succeeded because of guys like Fox, Kreider, Panarin. Im convinced any player could get 50 PP points with that squad. Instead of changing it up, we had to watch him and awful 1 timer.

Then the playoffs came, and it struggled. Imagine if we just let Laf get the experience on the unit? I'd imagine it wouldve done better than 2/20.

And lets be honest. It's not going to change next season. The PP will remain the same. Mika will get hit 60-70 PP points. Meanwhile Laf's growth will be shafted. I doubt he stays here.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

This is the kind of swivel-eyed negativity I expected last night right after the game tbh.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

This is the kind of swivel-eyed negativity I expected last night right after the game tbh.

It hurts, it stings, it sucks, its deflating. I know at the end of the day it doesn't mean anything, it's just us watching guys younger than we are try and solve a puzzle. It's a childhood thing for a lot of us.

 

[LOFIN]

It's called the salary cap, brother. The Florida teams have been cheating it for years with their team friendly deals and no state income tax on 41 games. It's not a coincidence that Vegas and both Florida teams are perenially in the conversation if not winning the cup.

Lol, no-one thought the Panthers had an advantage with the salary cap for all these years when they sucked ass. The tax-difference in the NHL is almost the same kind of lore as enforcers having an impact on cleaning up the game. It doesn't really exist, yet everyone talks about it. Even the so called professionals in the media. The reality is, the tax advantage doesn't really exist. There are multiple ways around it.

Vegas and Florida teams are attractive for other reasons. The California teams used to be pretty damn good (while the Florida teams sucked), how did they manage while having such a big tax differential?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Lol, no-one thought the Panthers had an advantage with the salary cap for all these years when they sucked ass. The tax-difference in the NHL is almost the same kind of lore as enforcers having an impact on cleaning up the game. It doesn't really exist, yet everyone talks about it. Even the so called professionals in the media. The reality is, the tax advantage doesn't really exist. There are multiple ways around it.

Vegas and Florida teams are attractive for other reasons. The California teams used to be pretty damn good (while the Florida teams sucked), how did they manage while having such a big tax differential?

Florida's been crap for decades. They won the cool internet hipster prospect awards for like 20 years and then they finally have competent management and make a ballsy trade.

Vegas was a once in a lifetime thing. Look at Seatlle, they're actually going through struggles of a real expansion team.

If you draft well, you keep your window open. Look at Dallas. Boston although a paper tiger is very good at drafting too.

 

[Leonardo87]

He's going to catch up on Shogun on streaming and rekindle the samurai hairstyle:

Just got renewed for 2 more seasons! Oh yeah!

 

[NikC]

we need ....
2 dominate regulation wins
2 squeak by OT wins...
2 squeak by regulation wins.

or any combination of the above over the next 2 games....

 

[LOFIN]

Vegas was a once in a lifetime thing. Look at Seatlle, they're actually going through struggles of a real expansion team.

Seattle sucks because their management sucks. Vegas' doesn't. How much of that original Vegas team is left?

Seattle has been doing f*** all with their expansion draft, salary cap space and prospect pool. And they hire Dan Bylsma. They are legit worse on the hockey operations side than Arizona ever was.

 

[Foxy]

My real issue with him is he never adjusted the PP. Laf worked his ass off and became our best player at ES. He was apart of our best line all season. How did the coach reward him? With 15 seconds of PP a game next to likes of Wennberg and Kakko.

Meanwhile, a certain player went like 40 games without an ES goal. Our powerplay succeeded because of guys like Fox, Kreider, Panarin. Im convinced any player could get 50 PP points with that squad. Instead of changing it up, we had to watch him and awful 1 timer.

Then the playoffs came, and it struggled. Imagine if we just let Laf get the experience on the unit? I'd imagine it wouldve done better than 2/20.

And lets be honest. It's not going to change next season. The PP will remain the same. Mika will get hit 60-70 PP points. Meanwhile Laf's growth will be shafted. I doubt he stays here.

Yeah, I get that. It's my one gripe too that he's left Mika on the PP while looking awful.

Thats said, it was a top 5 powerplay all year, and even until game 4 vs the Canes it was on fire in the playoffs. Was the main reason we won some of those first games vs the Canes.

Its a tough decision to let a known top powerplay work thru their issues or try and switch it up. He'd be taking heat either way.

 

[igorahank]

I've seen this team make enough series comebacks over the years to believe they can do it here. That said--don't know if I have the emotional capacity to watch much of Game 6. We'll see.

 

[bl02]

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Please don't mention Mika and the only and only beetljuice in the same post

Wheeler gotta be in tomorrow for Rempe. I'd even scratch Roslovic who is lost this series and go 11/7 with Jones tomorrow.

Screw it.

Hate 11/7 but I would do that.
Roslovic brings nothing. He makes a few nice zone entries once in a while I guess

 

[Ranger Tide]

Mika and Trouba have literally swung momentum to Florida like 6 times each.

You're right about Panarin though, he's a small twerpy puke afraid of scoring on his dance buddy

This is the kind of swivel-eyed negativity I expected last night right after the game tbh.

I legit lol'd at the bolded. Thank you Kevin & 'Gusta, adding these to the repertoire.

 

[Larrybiv]

Have a theory. They've always been accused of not "starting on time", (having a good 1st period) that ordinarily starts at 7pm. These games have been at 8. So, good start, but then by the end of their game, it's past their bedtime already.

 

[17futurecap]

Ros should be an easy scratch tomorrow if he’s not going to play with Mika and Kreider. In the playoffs when he’s not with them he has a 29.93 xGF% and his shot attempts away from both are 50 for and 81 against.

Cuylle Wennberg and Kakko at least nothing will happen in either direction.

 

[duhmetreE]

Ros should be an easy scratch tomorrow if he’s not going to play with Mika and Kreider. In the playoffs when he’s not with them he has a 29.93 xGF% and his shot attempts away from both are 50 for and 81 against.

Cuylle Wennberg and Kakko at least nothing will happen in either direction.

I do not understand why he keeps breaking up that line. I don't care nothing happens. That's a good thing with how the games have been going

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Gorton had about nine players who were signed throw fits and leave the organization or have their contracts terminated. He brought in and drafted some soft headcases. He also basically got down on one knee and begged Quinn to coach here. He didn't do anything about Ciaccao. Hartford was a mess. There were a lot of problems before Wilson.

agree. Gorton had flaws. The most glaring was his loyalty to Bobrov and his overseas scouts.
One, two, three European players to flame out could be bad luck but to have all those players turn is an organizational weakness.
Even now with Drury , this team should spend money on an outside company to evaluate how they handle non North American players.
Best case, everything is fine and it was Babrov’s fault.
Worst case, system put in place to address a problem.
As for JD, here’s the timeline:

February 8th, 2018 letter

May 18th 2019 J.D. is hired as President.

June 17th, 2019 Jacob Trouba is traded to the NY Rangers for Neal Pionk and the 20th overall 2019 pick.

July 1st, 2019 Artemi Panerin signs with the NY Rangers.

For a team doing a rebuild those are pretty contrarian moves.

Add to that the play in trade deadline even after Igor and Busch were involved in a Motor Vehicle accident the team held on to Fast, DeAngelo, Georgiev and Kreider.

If someone wishes to respond to this post regarding Kreider please keep in mind he was a UFA. They could have traded him and resigned him on July 1st

 

[ReddestRum]

We were out xG'd in that last game 6.6 to 4.15 and people thought that was the Panthers worst game and that Igor still should've shit out a perfect performance. Meanwhile we were outshot, outshot quality'd, and basically manhandled.

The stats on what 3rd periods look like for us this series is equally f***ing insane. How Igor has kept this series at 3-2 is a miracle within itself.

Again, 41 shot differential in this series and we're not even talking about harmless point shots. With the amount of play that's been in our zone and the shots that Igor is facing, I'm surprised that he hasn't gone into concussion protocol yet. But fans keep wanting you to steal every game all the way to the cup, Igor.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

I would pitch a 3 GAA against the Rangers

 

[NickyFotiu]

I was as devastated as any fan last night. With that said if anyone said we would be 2 games from a cup finals with a small chance of getting there being down 3-2 in the ECF before this season started I think everyone on this board would have been thrilled to take those odds. Nobody expected us to be here before the season. We still have a punchers chance. Now the question is will we fight for a 7th game or just mail it in?

 

[NYR94]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1796579310494790074

 

[kovazub94]

Criticizing the only reason we have a chance in this series to this point is some real hilarious hf ranger shit.

Criticizing practically anyone is hilarious. Let’s look across the isle - what have Barkov (the best player in this match up) or Tkachuck etc have done for the Panthers? Win a road game (that the Rangers have done during the playoffs and were tops during the regular season) and it’s winner takes all in game 7.