Post-Game Talk: Game 5

[DanielBrassard]

They just need a couple of guys who can do that.

I know it's the third year, same thing. I get where you're coming from. But it's also third straight deadline that the guys they added do NOTHING to address anything you're talking about. Vatrano was a perimeter volume shooter, Kane is Kane, Tarasenko is a shooter, Wennberg is just Kakko at center. Roslovic is a solid rush player but is useless with a set defense in front of him.

This team needs a Hagelin and a Pouliot. A couple of guys who, in certain matchups, can be the impetus on a forecheck. The right players in the right spots can completely change a team.

And frankly, I don't want to completely remove the rush element from this team. Teams that just cycle all day don't score. That's why Kakko sucks.

I really think they just need a couple of pieces that legitimately address weaknesses to pull it together. Again, maybe I'll buy it with Zibanejad, because his awful puck management will kill players who try to cycle. I don't buy that Kreider and Panarin can't play that type of hockey. Especially Kreider.

Trying to fill in around the margins isn’t going to make the impact that’s necessary. Those guys are not meant to change everything. The core group is the issue. Kreider isn’t really that type of player anymore, he used to be a much bigger factor on the cycle, but he doesn’t have that sort of explosiveness, he’s also 33 so it makes sense he’s not that guy anymore. Hes adjusted his game and been an extremely effective player. I get that we shouldn’t become a pure cycle team, I agree that would be a bad idea. However, as you know more than anyone. puck is just as much about playing defense as it is trying to score. Florida isn’t exactly lighting up the scoreboard, partially because of Igor, it at the same time they wear the rangers down, kill clock and give up absolutely no chances to a team that is completely reliant on opportunistic scoring. Perhaps the rangers could win some of these games 1-0 if they could get the lead and cycle the puck in the offensive zone. But that never happens.

 

[Machinehead]

I wonder if we'd have seen Edstrom if Rempe didn't fight a bunch of guys early on and endear himself to the fans and the lockerroom.

I don't know what the deal is with Edstrom. They just didn't seem to think he was ready. I thought he was pretty polished.

 

[Hire Sather]

Hope you're enjoying it because this is it for this core. Kreider has way too many miles on him which is understandable after playing on teams with the best goalie in the league that couldn't figure out how to close out a series in 5 games for like the better part of a decade

Agreed 100 percent.

This group isn't getting back.

Kreider's game at 6.5M isn't the problem though

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Altho I agree that Saturday night is the end, better get used to the Sheldon Keefe Effect next season. Debbie’s going to be in the side view mirror all season long.

They'll be good. They have no goalie though and Hughes's shoulder is a wildcard. Devils will be good and the Islanders will be competitive. Pittsburgh is a year older, Washington will probably regress, Columbus is basically starting from scratch, Carolina will be depleted, and Philadelphia is a completed wildcard.

Agreed 100 percent.

This group isn't getting back.

Kreider's game at 6.5M isn't the problem though

They will get back but with Drury's picks. Igor has one more long run in him a la Henrik. It's going to be like when Washington finally did it a few years ago, it was without a lot of the guys who got them the cred in the first place.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I wonder if we'd have seen Edstrom if Rempe didn't fight a bunch of guys early on and endear himself to the fans and the lockerroom.

I don't know why he never got a shot. He looked good in his 1 or 2 games that he played and can skate.

 

[Hire Sather]

They'll be good. They have no goalie though and Hughes's shoulder is a wildcard. Devils will be good and the Islanders will be competitive. Pittsburgh is a year older, Washington will probably regress, Columbus is basically starting from scratch, Carolina will be depleted, and Philadelphia is a completed wildcard.


They will get back but with Drury's picks. Igor has one more long run in him a la Henrik. It's going to be like when Washington finally did it a few years ago, it was without a lot of the guys who got them the cred in the first place.

I mean I'm not looking to clear the FO. Drury should get his chance to retool.

He's not perfect but he did sign Trochek

 

[ReleasO The KakkO]

Thank god there was no “internet” in 1994

“The World Wide Web became available to the broader public 30 years ago On April 30, 1993, the World Wide Web was released into the public domain.”

 

[SnowblindNYR]

“The World Wide Web became available to the broader public 30 years ago On April 30, 1993, the World Wide Web was released into the public domain.”

It blows my mind that the internet is that young. I still remember when I'd get in trouble because my dial up prevented my dad's clients from being about to contact him.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Realistically, what team would want Trouba?

 

[Machinehead]

Trying to fill in around the margins isn’t going to make the impact that’s necessary. Those guys are not meant to change everything. The core group is the issue. Kreider isn’t really that type of player anymore, he used to be a much bigger factor on the cycle, but he doesn’t have that sort of explosiveness, he’s also 33 so it makes sense he’s not that guy anymore. Hes adjusted his game and been an extremely effective player. I get that we shouldn’t become a pure cycle team, I agree that would be a bad idea. However, as you know more than anyone. puck is just as much about playing defense as it is trying to score. Florida isn’t exactly lighting up the scoreboard, partially because of Igor, it at the same time they wear the rangers down, kill clock and give up absolutely no chances to a team that is completely reliant on opportunistic scoring. Perhaps the rangers could win some of these games 1-0 if they could get the lead and cycle the puck in the offensive zone. But that never happens.

I don't disagree, I just don't think you necessarily have to blow up the team for them to cycle a bit more.

The team can win games and the East sucks right now. Me, personally, I'm giving them one more look with a healthy Fox and (hopefully) the beer league defensemen off the roster.

If it doesn't work, what, we start a rebuild one year later? I'm willing to take that risk.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Realistically, what team would want Trouba?

The Rangers?

 

[17futurecap]

The hockey season is so long we watched Nick Bonino play 45 games this season.

 

[Machinehead]

Realistically, what team would want Trouba?

Well, you have to assume that at least half the GM's in the league are f***ing morons at any given time. It's probably easier than it seems.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

The Rangers?

Don't be silly! Even Fox wants to give Trouba 5 across the eyes!

 

[Hire Sather]

I don't know why he never got a shot. He looked good in his 1 or 2 games that he played and can skate.

The f***ing Rempe mania didn't help.

He's not a bad player and he has an NHL future but he's played way too many games for a team with aspirations such as ours.

He's not losing us games but we have enough depth (including a pretty damn good #7 D) who could help us a lot more than Rempe's 2-5 minutes per contest.

Jones should've been in after G3. That's when it became clear we couldn't move the puck out of the zone.. and I have never been in favor of playing 7D

 

[Boris Zubov]

Is that George Jefferson?!?

 

[Nickmo82]

Realistically, what team would want Trouba?

If we package Panarin with him...?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I mean I'm not looking to clear the FO. Drury should get his chance to retool.

He's not perfect but he did sign Trochek

Drury's at worst got his team deep into the ECF two of his first three years and has kept the prospect line steady/fixed a lot of the infrastructure in the organization. That's with barely any of his draft picks and him building his own version of a team.

He's in no danger of going anywhere anytime soon.

Is that George Jefferson?!?

Teddy Long or Theodore Long as he was known then in early 90s WCW.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't disagree, I just don't think you necessarily have to blow up the team for them to cycle a bit more.

The team can win games and the East sucks right now. Me, personally, I'm giving them one more look with a healthy Fox and (hopefully) the beer league defensemen off the roster.

If it doesn't work, what, we start a rebuild one year later? I'm willing to take that risk.

I anticipate that’s what will happen, they don’t have much choice based on the contracts. I just don’t see a different outcome occurring with these same players as your top players again.

 

[McRanger92]

I don't disagree, I just don't think you necessarily have to blow up the team for them to cycle a bit more.

The team can win games and the East sucks right now. Me, personally, I'm giving them one more look with a healthy Fox and (hopefully) the beer league defensemen off the roster.

If it doesn't work, what, we start a rebuild one year later? I'm willing to take that risk.

Blowing up the team because our feelings are hurt is not it, folks.

 

[Machinehead]

Is that George Jefferson?!?

That's Teddy Long playa!

For not knowing that, you get to go one-on-one...




...WITH THE UNDERTAKAH!!!!

 

[Wtp99]

Graves, Messier, Tikanin, Anderson, Leetch,.Beuk
Much meaner and stronger than this group
Panther heads would have rolled

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Is that George Jefferson?!?

Teddy Long

 

[will1066]

WCW, where the big boys play!

 

[Machinehead]

Is that George Jefferson?!?

That's Teddy Long playa!

For not knowing that, you get to go one-on-one...




...WITH THE UNDERTAKAH!!!!