Post-Game Talk: Game 4

[aufheben]

Can someone tell me how many goals trouba has been on ice for this playoffs? And what % of total goals against he was on the ice for?

17 against, 13 for. All strengths.
11 against, 10 for. Even strength.

 

[Grifter3511]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795671029714501751

Got to love relevant history.

 

[will1066]

They seem content to flip pucks into the neutral zone and hope to skate into them to beat their forecheck. That’s what I noticed the last two games especially. I guess the coaching staff isn’t confident enough in this group to be able to thread the needle coming out of their own end. And would prefer to face Florida with a defense that is set rather than them trying to make plays but turning pucks over. I can’t blame them but it goes to show this roster is not good enough

And when those flips are not working, it means the puck is coming right back into our end. Offensive flips are different than defensive flips. Offensive flips that don't work, you're gifting them 100 feet of ice as opposed to making them come back from 200 feet out and with your 1-3-1 set.

 

[Sayba]

With Lindgren banged up, the defense working incredibly hard in their own end, putting in Jones for Wheeler has to be considered. The cycle absolutely destroys defenseman’s legs.

 

[Filip Chytil]

The only things I think could change are

1) The matchups. Maurice was hitting Trouba with Barkov like he was spraying a cockroach with Raid.

2) Even this D corps can play a little better than they did in those two games.

3) Maybe Mika doesn't exacerbate everything wrong with this team with like 19 turnovers. Would be nice.

If we can get back to playing more like Games 1 and 2 rather than Games 3 and 4, we can pull this off. I don't think we were perfect by any means in Games 1 and 2, but I thought we played better than in Games 3 and 4. Just felt like Florida had more high danger chances in Games 3 and 4 than they did in Games 1 and 2. Wonder what the advanced stats say though.

 

[17futurecap]

Get 30 shots on Bob tomorrow, and they win. He’s flopping around like a fish when guys are two feet from him.

 

[Machinehead]

If we can get back to playing more like Games 1 and 2 rather than Games 3 and 4, we can pull this off. I don't think we were perfect by any means in Games 1 and 2, but I thought we played better than in Games 3 and 4. Just felt like Florida had more high danger chances in Games 3 and 4 than they did in Games 1 and 2. Wonder what the advanced stats say though.

You don't wanna know what they say.

Suffice to say that Florida didn't do much in games 1 and 2.

 

[bl02]

it's true

it was his best play of the night and the series

actually he f***ed that up too he couldn't even clear it over the glass.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I hope this lights a fire under Kreider...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795854877236543964

Funny thing is it’s the truth

 

[aufheben]

I still have faith that there's a winner in this locker room.

They have a ton of heart and they've answered a lot of questions. Trocheck has emerged as a legit 1C. Lafreniere is going to make it. I really don't think Panarin has had a bad tournament. Even if you have qualms with Kreider and Zibanejad, they're relatively cost-effective for their roles and we'll be relying on them less. Trocheck is already our undisputed 1C. He plays more than Zibanejad. I think maybe we need another winger, but the forward group can win.

I guess we'll let them play out the series and save this discussion for the summer, but they have multiple non-top-4 D playing top-4 roles. We knew they would have to win in spite of that, and the problem is fixable.

Did we know that? I brought it up last week and people weren’t happy to hear it.

Yes please

Seriously?

Just put Roslovic back with Kreider and Zibanejad FFS. That’s literally why they got him.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Roslovic
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko
Rempe-Goodrow-Wheeler

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Gustafsson-Trouba

 

[Filip Chytil]

All it takes is mere minutes to tame the Cats. No high-level analysis needed. Laviolette needs to fly to Arkansas ASAP and learn from this guy.

 

[Leonardo87]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795671029714501751

 

[bhamill]

I mean it's still the NHL and players are human. You might get an off period here and there.

Yes they are all human, but that's just the reason that momentum doesn't REALLY translate. Sure, from shift to shift it can, but even then one good shift from the other team and it shifts again. I guess I just don't see momentum as a big thing, especially from period to period or game to game.

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

This series is the opposite of everything we know about the Rangers. If WE stay out of the box and don't let THEIR dangerous power play operate, we are fine. We have shown in this series we can score 5v5. Let them run us around. Then we counter and Laf or Goodrow will score.

 

[Machinehead]

Did we know that? I brought it up last week and people weren’t happy to hear it.

Some people aren't happy to hear anything that isn't the same tired old tropes.

Anybody who pays attention and is honest as been harping on the D corps for multiple seasons.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Did we know that? I brought it up last week and people weren’t happy to hear it.


Seriously?

Just put Roslovic back with Kreider and Zibanejad FFS. That’s literally why they got him.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Roslovic
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko
Rempe-Goodrow-Wheeler

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Gustafsson-Trouba

Chytil is likely back next game.

 

[Ruggs225]

17 against, 13 for. All strengths.
11 against, 10 for. Even strength.

Thank you.

So in ths playoffs the rangers have let up 40 goals total. He has been on the i e for almost half of them

How does the coach not see this?

 

[Machinehead]

it's true

it was his best play of the night and the series

Funny thing is it’s the truth

Don't agree with him.

 

[JimmyG89]

Please put Miller-Schneider back together. I don't care how bad Gus-Trouba had been, you have to run this. They were 7-2 with those pairs and 3-2 since then.

Can't keep changing the forward lines and leave the pairs alone. You're struggling to exit your zone and that is primarily on the defense.

Limit Trouba and Lindgren to PK and 3rd pair minutes. Stack Gus-Fox for OZ draws or even Miller-Fox if Gus just ended his shift.

Wheeler and Rempe out, Chytil and Brodz in. We need speed and these two bring it. Don't care what Rempe brings to the crowd.

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20-93-72
24-91-96
50-21-76

 

[aufheben]

Thank you.

So in ths playoffs the rangers have let up 40 goals total. He has been on the i e for almost half of them

How does the coach not see this?

No not almost half. All strengths includes even strength and special teams.

Chytil is likely back next game.

Then stick him on the 4th line. These are the best iterations of our top-9.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Please put Miller-Schneider back together. I don't care how bad Gus-Trouba had been, you have to run this. They were 7-2 with those pairs and 3-2 since then.

Can't keep changing the forward lines and leave the pairs alone. You're struggling to exit your zone and that is primarily on the defense.

Limit Trouba and Lindgren to PK and 3rd pair minutes. Stack Gus-Fox for OZ draws or even Miller-Fox if Gus just ended his shift.

Wheeler and Rempe out, Chytil and Brodz in. We need speed and these two bring it. Don't care what Rempe brings to the crowd.

10-16-13
20-93-72
24-91-96
50-21-76

Yea take out last games best line and put in a guy who's scared to be hit and a career AHL'er

 

[Ruggs225]

No not almost half. All strengths includes even strength and special teams.

Im not following. What else is there besides even strength and special teams.

He has been on the ice when 17 goals were scored. Correct?

We have given up 40 goals total.

Forgive me if i am missing something here

 

[NikC]

sadly, that even though the rangers were outplayed for large portions of game 4, they had a chance to deliver the death blow, like games 2 and 3. Going up 3-1 negates a lot of the "good feelings" about Florida's play... dominating and still losing.

2-2 now. things are even overall.

The Rangers CAN play better, even if they can't overhaul their transition game atm.

Stop the giveaways, look for the simple direct play in the offensive zone more often. Get shots on net and drive to the net for the rebound.

Mika almost scored on the 2nd PP he was more engaged, but he played a very poor game. very poor mental decisions.

Bottom line, if Krieder, Mika, and Panarin can't start scoring, we are looking the the Rangers trying to "squeak out" 1g wins and in OT.

Not too many more options for this current group right now.

 

[aufheben]

Im not following. What else is there besides even strength and special teams.

He has been on the ice when 17 goals were scored. Correct?

We have given up 40 goals total.

Forgive me if i am missing something here

Oh no you’re right I thought you added them together. Reading too fast.

 

[RangerLifer]

Spoiler: lighten up morrissey

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He should have force fed it to him instead of throwing it.

Mika almost scored on the 2nd PP he was more engaged, but he played a very poor game. very poor mental decisions.

Bottom line, if Krieder, Mika, and Panarin can't start scoring, we are looking the the Rangers trying to "squeak out" 1g wins and in OT.

Not too many more options for this current group right now.

How many times did Mika, while carrying the puck, see a Panther/s player/s come at him and just give the puck to them? That is an unacceptable sort of play from a player like him.