Post-Game Talk: GAME #24 - Had 'Em All the Way - BRUINS 2 Whalercanes 1 F/SO

[BNHL]

People forget the numbers of games played vs years of being in the system. I did not even know it was that little (58). Larry Robinson said it takes over 200 games to know what you have and probably not 5 games here, sit 10 play 2 sit 4. You cannot get NHL speed, awarness and timing without playing consistently. I said it before and will keep saying it pick one between Morrow and Chiller and one betweeen Kevan and McQuaid and run with it. Without injuries we would never know what some of these guys could do or not do. Morrow has opened a lot of eyes, same as when Spooner filled in for Krech. I am really worried about the next core and lack of experience. I think the dee has been better then the forward lines and the lack of chemistry on them is terrible

They keep moving them in and out of the lineup for a couple of reasons,they need what they can bring but they can't afford costly errors. I agree,they need to be in the lineup consistently but the fact the Bruins are a bubble team and that Claude can't stomach any defensive errors really hampers their development in my opinion. The dual injuries to Chara and Liles has almost been a blessing as it forces Claude's hand. What's the Bruins GAA average in the games since they've been out? Not bad.

 

[Eb]

Fantasy Talk

Anyone know why Rask didn't get the start last night and what this means going forward?

 

[ODAAT]

I'd say for me what frustrates me is that we still need a top pairing or top 4 Dman and a decent scoring winger added. That hasn't changed. I think the bottom depth 4th has improved this year over last. Most importantly Rask's 'revival' for lack of a better term is being wasted.

I think they could scare the beejeepers out of the East if they could/would/finally add those missing pieces.

My Dad used to say - '**** or get off the pot'. That's how I see this thing.

Agreed Wally and I`m not so sure Sweeney doesn`t agree either. No way he and his troops are sitting up top and don`t see the same. Think it`s a case of timing and willingness of a dance partner which, as we know, isn`t quite as easy as we here like to think. Weird as I`m able to make blockbusters on NHL 17 without issue

Scoring issues very surprising but like most here, absolutely shocked the D has held up but I`m not sold, waiting for them to get badly exposed without some solid help back there as they head into the new year and teams really start to bear down. With Vegas and the expansion draft, I have a feeling were going to see an exceptionally busy trade deadline and that Sweeney will very much be in the middle of things, absolute ton of prospects to dangle

 

[Gee Wally]

Fantasy Talk

Anyone know why Rask didn't get the start last night and what this means going forward?

Nothing much. Dobby hadn't started in long time.
I expect Rask to right back in there for Sabres tomorrow.

 

[Pia8988]

Fantasy Talk

Anyone know why Rask didn't get the start last night and what this means going forward?

He might finally get a night off?

Go look bow little time off Rask has had

 

[ODAAT]

Nothing much. Dobby hadn't started in long time.
I expect Rask to right back in there for Sabres tomorrow.

he`ll need to continue his sharp play, Sabres have new energy with Eichel back in the lineup

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Fantasy Talk

Anyone know why Rask didn't get the start last night and what this means going forward?

Doesn't mean a thing.

Rask has played in 17 of 21 games this year and the B's have a Saturday matinee against a division opponent, so they were just resting him.

Plus, I am guessing they wanted to get Khudobin his first W against his old team and build his confidence.



Mission accomplished.

 

[LSCII]

Great to steal the win last night, despite a poor overall effort. Dobbie really bailed them out time after time. You know the offense is really bad when the two biggest homers on the planet in Brick and Jack are calling it out multiple times during the game. Just atrocious. If they really want to be a playoff team, they have to fix this asap. You cannot expect to hold teams to a goal every night, just to give you a slight chance to win. Right now, if this team falls behind 2-0, it's pretty much a guarantee that it's game over. Sad but true.

 

[Eb]

Thanks guys. Cheers.

 

[Gee Wally]

Agreed Wally and I`m not so sure Sweeney doesn`t agree either. No way he and his troops are sitting up top and don`t see the same. Think it`s a case of timing and willingness of a dance partner which, as we know, isn`t quite as easy as we here like to think. Weird as I`m able to make blockbusters on NHL 17 without issue

Scoring issues very surprising but like most here, absolutely shocked the D has held up but I`m not sold, waiting for them to get badly exposed without some solid help back there as they head into the new year and teams really start to bear down. With Vegas and the expansion draft, I have a feeling were going to see an exceptionally busy trade deadline and that Sweeney will very much be in the middle of things, absolute ton of prospects to dangle

the expansion draft certainly adds an additional layer of complexity. I'm very interested in seeing how that plays out. In past drafts the new franchise sometimes acted as a broker too. By that I mean once the protected lists are formally submitted other teams get on the phone and try to see who they can get the expansion team to flip to them.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Great to steal the win last night, despite a poor overall effort. Dobbie really bailed them out time after time. You know the offense is really bad when the two biggest homers on the planet in Brick and Jack are calling it out multiple times during the game. Just atrocious. If they really want to be a playoff team, they have to fix this asap. You cannot expect to hold teams to a goal every night, just to give you a slight chance to win. Right now, if this team falls behind 2-0, it's pretty much a guarantee that it's game over. Sad but true.

Didn't they just fall behind 2-0 to Philly the other day and come back to force a SO and get a point?



Remember when we all thought the D was going to be the problem for this team?

 

[tburns21]

it's definitely going to be trickey when everyone gets healthy....I'd sit liles personally... hate the dudes injured but I hope he's in no rush to get back. keep morrow moving, while he won't have a deal for next season is that being done on purpose like an exp draft loophole? he'd be key on our third pairing next year. I don't think zboril and lauzon will make the immediate jump need to let them have a year in prov so we could have chara/krug/morrow for the left side next year. fingers crossed vegas takes mcquaid so then you have carlo/kevan/colin and maybe Charlie in the mix on the right.

wonder what we'd look like if we'd signed Vesey and traded for shattenkirk at the deadline last year.....

 

[whatsbruin]

They keep moving them in and out of the lineup for a couple of reasons,they need what they can bring but they can't afford costly errors. I agree,they need to be in the lineup consistently but the fact the Bruins are a bubble team and that Claude can't stomach any defensive errors really hampers their development in my opinion.

You can say this, and I would agree except, McQuaid has just as many errors, if not more, and there is no in-game sitting for him, nor healthy scratch. C. Miller and J. Morrow will get better with playing time. McQuaid will not get better at this point.
This part of Clode I do not understand.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

There is 9 teams in the nhl that are better than 3 games over 500

We fans are allowed to say the team is sluggish but there's a lot of parity in the nhl.

We know bergeron krecji krug rask chara have all been hurt now... injuries are part of reality but they do hurt teams with shallow depth. That's reality.

Personally I never for 1 second thought we were a cup contender this year but I see more potential than I thought. We need a couple of upgrades and every one needs to get healthy but this team is clearly better defensively th a we thought

Defense is hard work and system... so the team clearly hasn't tuned Claude out

Honestly we had that 3-4 game losing streak when rask was hurt and are like 13-6-1 when he's healthy

Things don't suck as much as people want to pretend here in these game threads

Sometimes other teams do good things when there is parity

Just posted this article from LeBrun in the NHL season thread. Speaks to the need for debate on the loser point situation with arguments from both sides. Particularly note worthy are burkes comments on reinforcing the league objective of wanting mediocrity. Hope it fuels more debate.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-should-reward-regulation-victories-with-an-extra-point-1.621147

 

[BruinsPortugal]

Just posted this article from LeBrun in the NHL season thread. Speaks to the need for debate on the loser point situation with arguments from both sides. Particularly note worthy are burkes comments on reinforcing the league objective of wanting mediocrity. Hope it fuels more debate.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-should-reward-regulation-victories-with-an-extra-point-1.621147

The loser point is so ridiculous it boggles my mind but then again, im european and we dont have that here. Its all about money, i get it, but it seems thats all people care about, no wonder the on ice product is getting worse every year.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

And just like that, the Bruins are 3rd in the Atlantic.

As mediocre as they are, they won't go away.
It would be easy to curl up and die, but they're battling.

It's not pretty, but they're scraping some points together and there's something to be said for that.
If you want to blame Clode for the negative, he deserves some kudos for the positive here as well.

Waking up third in the division must be hard to take for many who make over the top comments during a game in the game day thread. It's akin to giving up on the team or even abandoning them as a fan. Over 40 years of being a fan and have never once thought of dropping out. Of course I can get frustrated from time to time as many fans understandably do when the team is not playing well. Can only hope the same folks don't take a similar hard line approach with kids, other family members and friends when things are just not going so well.

 

[Tampbear]

You can say this, and I would agree except, McQuaid has just as many errors, if not more, and there is no in-game sitting for him, nor healthy scratch. C. Miller and J. Morrow will get better with playing time. McQuaid will not get better at this point.
This part of Clode I do not understand.

McQuaid did have the fewest minutes of any of the D last night, I don't know that Julien is necessarily tied to him as much as others think, if Morrow and Chiller keep their play up I could see him keeping them in the lineup, especially Morrow right now.

 

[BMC]

I'm very happy for Dobby to finally get a win, he looked a lot more like the Dobby we had a few seasons ago.

A win is a win is a win. The NHL doesn't award extra points for how pretty it is or deduct them for how ugly it is.

Now on to Buffalo....

 

[DarrenBanks56]

they gotta win these next 2.
start a little winning streak here.

bergeron has to get on the sheet.


i want 63-42-88
as line 1 tomorrow

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

You can say this, and I would agree except, McQuaid has just as many errors, if not more, and there is no in-game sitting for him, nor healthy scratch. C. Miller and J. Morrow will get better with playing time. McQuaid will not get better at this point.
This part of Clode I do not understand.

McQuaid had the least time on ice of any Bruins defender last night.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Great to steal the win last night, despite a poor overall effort. Dobbie really bailed them out time after time. You know the offense is really bad when the two biggest homers on the planet in Brick and Jack are calling it out multiple times during the game. Just atrocious. If they really want to be a playoff team, they have to fix this asap. You cannot expect to hold teams to a goal every night, just to give you a slight chance to win. Right now, if this team falls behind 2-0, it's pretty much a guarantee that it's game over. Sad but true.

So funny to me that so many here continue to whistle past the graveyard with this team. There are basically four players carrying the team at this point: Pasta, Rask, Marchand and Carlo.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Noticed I said stinks at DEFENDING, and you go into his shooting and passes. Read closer next time.

You must of missed the other night against Philly where McQuaid kept turning the puck over multiple times on the same shift and unable to clear the zone.

But hey you know,he wins your precious "puck battles", so let's give him a free pass.

I'm now convinced those who can't see that Torey Krug as an adequate (not great, adequate/capable) defender and just a "PP specialist" don't really understand this sport at all.

You are correct as usual keep up the good work

 

[DoubleAAAA]

That was one of the worst hockey games I've ever watched.

On the upside - thought the D minus McQuaid was pretty good. In fact I thought both Miller's and Krug had really good games.

Everyone else other than Pasta and Dobby was pretty much hot garbage for 55 minutes.

 

[wintersej]

McQuaid and Hayes played the least TOI amongst D and forwards.

I think Clode sees what we see, but doesn't have better options, yet.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Noticed I said stinks at DEFENDING, and you go into his shooting and passes. Read closer next time.

You must of missed the other night against Philly where McQuaid kept turning the puck over multiple times on the same shift and unable to clear the zone.

But hey you know,he wins your precious "puck battles", so let's give him a free pass.

I'm now convinced those who can't see that Torey Krug as an adequate (not great, adequate/capable) defender and just a "PP specialist" don't really understand this sport at all.

McQuaid wins the puck battles, but loses the puck war.

If it's between him and Krug as to who's better for your team, can't really see how anyone could still say McQuaid, all things considered.