Post-Game Talk: GAME #24 - Had 'Em All the Way - BRUINS 2 Whalercanes 1 F/SO

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Boy, who would have thought the defense wouldn't really be the problem this year (actually I had a sneaking feeling the offense would be worse) but I never would have guessed the defense would keep most teams to 1-2 goals this year per game, oh and Rask of course, but to keep the goals to one with no chara rask lost another vet in liles is pretty impressive even if it was against Carolina
 

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From one 'wackadoo' to another I can relate. My daughter worked for the City at the arena's during High School. Sweeping up and changing the nets for the Zambonis during Niagara Icedog games. I told her then Hamilton was Bruins property and she is a Bruins fan too. So as Captain Picard said "Make it so" well it did not happen, all for the better I guess. Still it was a retirement dream. How he turned out she would have been pissed at him and probably gone all Hope Solo on him.

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LOL!
 

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People will look at his height/weight and forever be convinced he stinks at defending.

That's it really.

His play now in comparison to mid-October is like night and day.

I'm sure that's it because there is no other reason. Him turning the puck over night after night and being pushed off the puck and losing puck battles driving shots into defenders shin pads and making ill advised passes is because he's small.

Phew I was worried there for a minute, I though it was Adam McQuaid's fault
 

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Carlo is so impressive. I feel more confident and comfortable with him than I do any other Bruins D at the moment. Kid is only 20. Unreal.

He's been the surprise of the season for me. Very, very bright future once he actually 'gets it'. Which takes a few years for any young D man.

That's why I like that Chara is still here to work with him.

I'll never forget an interview I saw with Ray Bourque and how he stated for his early days the most valuable influence on him was Brad Park. That they would talk and talk on and off the ice.
 

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And just like that, the Bruins are 3rd in the Atlantic.

As mediocre as they are, they won't go away.
It would be easy to curl up and die, but they're battling.

It's not pretty, but they're scraping some points together and there's something to be said for that.
If you want to blame Clode for the negative, he deserves some kudos for the positive here as well.

They're pretty much where I thought they'd be.
Win a few then lose a few. Claw and scratch all season long. Right down to the last couple of weeks of the season.
Unless there is a roster change. IMO.
 

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I couldn't agree more, Chara mentoring Carlo is very very important for the future, we can say crucial.
 

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Watching tonight's game was exactly like watching the Canes play the Habs two weeks ago and again last week. They love to clog the neutral zone. They take everything that is exciting about hockey out of it. Speed, passing and anything resembling a hockey play, all get flushed out of the game. A friend of mine went to the game last time they played the Habs and he literally feel asleep. His buddies who went to the game with him posted it on facebook for all to share a laugh at his expense.

It's very frustrating to watch tis type of game. It makes every player look like he's bad at hockey. The reality is the Canes are bad at hockey so they have to play this way , it's the only chance they have.

Had a rare evening off last night and Mrs Odaat asked if I`d like to buy the XMAS tree to which I replied "how about tomorrow, going to watch the game tonight"? About an hour later I walked to the closet and put my coat on. Needless to say, we have our XMas tree, the game was that boring


However, sleep factor or otherwise, not going to complain about securing 2 pts
 

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I'm sure that's it because there is no other reason. Him turning the puck over night after night and being pushed off the puck and losing puck battles driving shots into defenders shin pads and making ill advised passes is because he's small.

Phew I was worried there for a minute, I though it was Adam McQuaid's fault

Noticed I said stinks at DEFENDING, and you go into his shooting and passes. Read closer next time.

You must of missed the other night against Philly where McQuaid kept turning the puck over multiple times on the same shift and unable to clear the zone.

But hey you know,he wins your precious "puck battles", so let's give him a free pass.

I'm now convinced those who can't see that Torey Krug as an adequate (not great, adequate/capable) defender and just a "PP specialist" don't really understand this sport at all.
 

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Had a rare evening off last night and Mrs Odaat asked if I`d like to buy the XMAS tree to which I replied "how about tomorrow, going to watch the game tonight"? About an hour later I walked to the closet and put my coat on. Needless to say, we have our XMas tree, the game was that boring


However, sleep factor or otherwise, not going to complain about securing 2 pts

Hahaha...I read that as "needles" to say!

Yes, boring game but the outcome was what mattered. Dobby was so happy, builds confidence going forward. I'm good with the result, even if it was mind numbing at times.
 

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I turned off with two minutes to go last night :laugh:

Watched the first Period, and some of the 2nd.
Checked the score on my phone and saw 1 - 1 in OT.
I turned it on for the last min of OT and the shoot out.

Spooner needs to shoot more. Krecji should be setting him up on
that line. That shoot out goal was nasty. Got the shot off quick and
hit the twine before Ward moved.
 

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I managed to catch the last 5 minutes, OT and SO. All I saw were positives....lol. But ya know, they are hanging around and can't say enough how the kids are playing on D. Just have to try and keep banging at the net, tips, deflections...etc...whatever takes to see the red light come on.
 

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c miller scares me out there.
Seems like he just pinches recklessly.

I think k miller has been playing great since he's been back.
when chara returns gonna be between mcquaid and c miller who goes to level 9.

right now I think im leaning towards sending mcquaid up there
 

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I never quit on a game...Remember Toronto...game # 7...down 4-1 with 10 min left ???

You just never know.

It's poor form, I know.

However, I've managed to convince myself that the only reason that the B's won was because I turned off, and the hockey gods made me pay for my sins. So I'm quite happy with myself in the end.
 

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c miller scares me out there.
Seems like he just pinches recklessly.


I think k miller has been playing great since he's been back.
when chara returns gonna be between mcquaid and c miller who goes to level 9.

right now I think im leaning towards sending mcquaid up there

Like Brickley mentioned,he has some extraordinary tools but needs to develop better decision making. A lot of that comes with experience and maturity,he's got only 58 games of NHL experience,basically a rookie in terms of game played. I'd keep rolling him and Morrow out there to exploit their skating and purge those errors. No dog can learn without making the mistakes. What makes it more difficult is alternating their benching and playing so frequently. The Bruins are a playoff bubble team with limited offense so every mistake has greater value. If the Bruins flat out sucked you just throw them in the fire,if they were top 5 you can suffer or make up for their mistakes. It's a delicate balance when you are mediocre and can't afford to let young defensemen make costly errors.
 
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Played great against Philly and lost, played terrible against the Caines and won....

Thankx hockey sometimes ......
 

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I agree but it is seen as being anti bruin if you believe that and that's sad. The one side will never convince me and I will not convince them, big deal. Gotta say I like the back and forth banter, just keep it civil. I am not hiding, too old to run and I have seen too many bad games the last 3 years to let it slide. Been a fan way longer then Claude knew he was going coach and a fan longer then he will be here. He has done a lot of good but times have changed and it is getting closer and closer. We all want the same thing but in different ways. Thats what being a fan is all about being passionate about what you interpret in your own eyes. You can predict what some people will say when someone they do like does something and I am guilty of that. If Claude changes his ways I will come around but I will not hold my breathe. I want to see the future core get a chance to develop like this one did and not run this one into the ground before handing it over properly

best thing ive read on this board in a long time.. great post !
 

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Hahaha...I read that as "needles" to say!

Yes, boring game but the outcome was what mattered. Dobby was so happy, builds confidence going forward. I'm good with the result, even if it was mind numbing at times.

Glad to see Dobby clearly so elated after the win, the guy seems like such a decent dude, quirky like most goalies I`m sure and well liked.

2 pts all that matter, are there issues with the team? Indeed there are, not a shock, as Wally said, scratch and claw kind of team, comments about this team from the fans here predicted it`d be just like it has been. Wondering out loud, from those who predicted pretty much what were seeing why they seem so frustrated that it`s going this way?
 

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DarrenBanks56;125141015[B said:
]c miller scares me out there.
Seems like he just pinches recklessly.[/B]

I think k miller has been playing great since he's been back.
when chara returns gonna be between mcquaid and c miller who goes to level 9.

right now I think im leaning towards sending mcquaid up there


I think it's funny that you call Chiller out for this, then in the same breath praise Killer's play, when he pinches more often and deeper than Chiller ever does. In his first few games back, I have seen him below the opponent's goal line on a number of occasions. I guess I should just be happy that he's a "defensive" Dman, otherwise who knows how much he would be down there? I'm going to start calling him Buff Lite :laugh:

Like McQ, but he handles the puck like a hand grenade. Thought I was going to have a coronary when he turned that puck over right in front of the net (3rd period or OT?).




Like Brickley mentioned,he has some extraordinary tools but needs to develop better decision making. A lot of that comes with experience and maturity,he's got only 58 games of NHL experience,basically a rookie in terms of game played. I'd keep rolling him and Morrow out there to exploit their skating and purge those errors. No dog can learn without making the mistakes. What makes it more difficult is alternating their benching and playing so frequently. The Bruins are a playoff bubble team with limited offense so every mistake has greater value. If the Bruins flat out sucked you just throw them in the fire,if they were top 5 you can suffer or make up for their mistakes. It's a delicate balance when you are mediocre and can't afford to let young defensemen make costly errors.


What I like about both Chiller and Morrow is that when they do make a mistake, they have the mobility to recover quickly and often get the puck right back. The initial TO needs to be avoided, but at least they aren't "toast" like some of the B's do when they cough it up.


I hear all this stuff about how bad Krug is defensively...then I watch him in the OT make a textbook defense of a 2 on 1 right off the bat.

People need to realize there is a difference between him having difficulty with larger/more physical F's because of his size and not being able to defend. That's why you pair him with a kid like Carlo.
 

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Like Brickley mentioned,he has some extraordinary tools but needs to develop better decision making. A lot of that comes with experience and maturity,he's got only 58 games of NHL experience,basically a rookie in terms of game played. I'd keep rolling him and Morrow out there to exploit their skating and purge those errors. No dog can learn without making the mistakes. What makes it more difficult is alternating their benching and playing so frequently. The Bruins are a playoff bubble team with limited offense so every mistake has greater value. If the Bruins flat out sucked you just throw them in the fire,if they were top 5 you can suffer or make up for their mistakes. It's a delicate balance when you are mediocre and can't afford to let young defensemen make costly errors.

People forget the numbers of games played vs years of being in the system. I did not even know it was that little (58). Larry Robinson said it takes over 200 games to know what you have and probably not 5 games here, sit 10 play 2 sit 4. You cannot get NHL speed, awarness and timing without playing consistently. I said it before and will keep saying it pick one between Morrow and Chiller and one betweeen Kevan and McQuaid and run with it. Without injuries we would never know what some of these guys could do or not do. Morrow has opened a lot of eyes, same as when Spooner filled in for Krech. I am really worried about the next core and lack of experience. I think the dee has been better then the forward lines and the lack of chemistry on them is terrible
 

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Glad to see Dobby clearly so elated after the win, the guy seems like such a decent dude, quirky like most goalies I`m sure and well liked.

2 pts all that matter, are there issues with the team? Indeed there are, not a shock, as Wally said, scratch and claw kind of team, comments about this team from the fans here predicted it`d be just like it has been. Wondering out loud, from those who predicted pretty much what were seeing why they seem so frustrated that it`s going this way?

I'd say for me what frustrates me is that we still need a top pairing or top 4 Dman and a decent scoring winger added. That hasn't changed. I think the bottom depth 4th has improved this year over last. Most importantly Rask's 'revival' for lack of a better term is being wasted.

I think they could scare the beejeepers out of the East if they could/would/finally add those missing pieces.

My Dad used to say - '**** or get off the pot'. That's how I see this thing.
 

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They have to fix the PP for one thing, we don't get that many PP chances to begin with, but when we do they have to make them count and start scoring some goals, last night the PP was brutal. Sacco and Julien must be insane, because they keep doing the same things over and over expecting different results. Marchand and especially Pastrnak should be on the #1 unit, how can you not have your top sniper not on the top PP? I really would like to see Sacco let go and get some maybe Oates who can run a PP and get the offense going as well.

i agree that the PP is brutal. .but im going to disagree with you on the marchand front. he is proving to be a pretty unreliable guy on the pp. tries to skate through too many defenders and ends up losing the puck.. maybe split him pasta up? as others have mentioned you need to get krejci off the point. he is so laxadasical..drives me nuts. but mostly they all just stand there. .there is no motion. no creativity, it's just stand there and blast away and then hope for a squibber than can be banged in.. krejci is quickly becoming my least favorite bruin to watch.. (im going to stop writing now because i could go on a rant about him, but i know i will just get lambasted for it)
 

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