Post-Game Talk: GAME 13 - Who has more fun than us - BRUINS 2 Seattle 0

[easton117]

Anybody else think the Bruins have changed some of their systems?

DZ: They look like they've gone back to a box+1 in the Dzone. Every time they were stuck defending today they were in that set up. They're not running around, they're not frequently out of position all of a sudden.

OZ: They're shooting a TON more. 30 shots in the first 2 periods today. Taking a page from Florida here: shots and net front traffic.

PP: They've shifted E.Lindholm to the wall and have both Coyle and Marchand at the posts. Coyle shifts between side of the net and net front, Pasta shifts between elbow and bumper. It's a new look, an innovative look, and that plus the movement it requires makes it hard to defend.

I wonder if Monty met with the players and they came up this approach, or if Monty just made the changes and the players were excited about it... All I know is the effort and intensity are suddenly better. There is buy-in again. They look organized and focused again.

I don’t want to say I’m the reason for it. But I believe my bitching about the forwards being too high in the d zone has something to do with their breakouts looking better.

I also like to think my wife listens to my suggestions around the house and acts accordingly. So you know. Win some lose some.

 

[wintersej]

Very well put! I completely lost faith in Montgomery and his ability to run this bench.
I'm still not sure about him since IMHO it shouldn't have taken nearly this long.
There's something weird going on with the team, there's an undercurrent that things are very iffy in their approach.
It's great that they won these two games but the next
half dozen games will tell the story.
Will they take this system and build on it or when things get
tough, will they lose their collective shit and start playing
individually again or stay together as a team?
Time will tell, but I'm still 50/50 on Montgomery and his ability
to build on and bolster this new found (or re-found) system?

Yeah, I'm a fan of all 3 changes/systems. I think early on they maybe wanted to try to be more aggressive. The box+1 is a bit passive, giving up the outside whereas man to man and hybrid systems are more high pressure.

I think they wanted to try being more aggressive because FLA spends whole minutes in our zone wheeling around the outside, but in reality it just led to guys being out of position and giving up all the dangerous areas. I think the players quickly soured on that approach and got frustrated and that's why we saw them looking so confused and lifeless.

Now they're back to what they've been doing for the last 15 years and they get it. They're excited to execute it, and we're seeing that energy and life come back. I think they've decided to go with more of a volume shot approach too, shots and net front traffic, and they're excited to do that as well.

100% speculation on my part, but that's my impression.

If basically every one of Monty’s innovations have been shit canned, still makes ya wonder if he is the right guy for this roster. But, he has certainly bought himself some time here.

Liked seeing McAvoy call his own number more today. Seemed like more like how he was playing the first couple games of the season in the ozone and he got 7 shots out of it.

 

[PlayMakers]

Very well put! I completely lost faith in Montgomery and his ability to run this bench.
I'm still not sure about him since IMHO it shouldn't have taken nearly this long.
There's something weird going on with the team, there's an undercurrent that things are very iffy in their approach.
It's great that they won these two games but the next
half dozen games will tell the story.
Will they take this system and build on it or when things get
tough, will they lose their collective shit and start playing
individually again or stay together as a team?
Time will tell, but I'm still 50/50 on Montgomery and his ability
to build on and bolster this new found (or re-found) system?


With interest!

I hear you. It definitely looked like Jim was cooked. Like they tuned him out. I'd be very curious to know what sparked the change in demeanor. Was it a meeting? Was it a change in how they play? They literally went from nobody giving a f*** and looking disinterested and confused, to everybody suddenly locked in and competing for pucks, playing as a 5 man defensive unit, they stopped with the lazy passes and careless giveaways... Complete 180.

I will also say, I'm very impressed with Monty's new power play scheme. It's creative. I've criticized Montgomery for not being very innovative so I'm glad to see him prove me wrong.

 

[bruins19]

He is small and lacks separation speed and has his head down more than he should so he tends to be a bit too easy to line up and hammer.

All of that and he very predictably turns toward the boards with the puck when he gets pressured. You can’t be that predictable at this level - you will get crushed.

 

[bobbyorr04]

Anybody else think the Bruins have changed some of their systems?

I wonder if Monty met with the players and they came up this approach, or if Monty just made the changes and the players were excited about it... All I know is the effort and intensity are suddenly better. There is buy-in again. They look organized and focused again.

Nah, they watched a few hockey videos on YouTube

 

[Fenway]

Monday, November 4 (Warrior Ice Arena, Brighton, MA)

• Practice, 11 a.m.
• Head Coach Jim Montgomery and select players available to media following practice
• Travel to Toronto

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

I hear you. It definitely looked like Jim was cooked. Like they tuned him out. I'd be very curious to know what sparked the change in demeanor. Was it a meeting? Was it a change in how they play? They literally went from nobody giving a f*** and looking disinterested and confused, to everybody suddenly locked in and competing for pucks, playing as a 5 man defensive unit, they stopped with the lazy passes and careless giveaways... Complete 180.

I will also say, I'm very impressed with Monty's new power play scheme. It's creative. I've criticized Montgomery for not being very innovative so I'm glad to see him prove me wrong.

Bad timing was part of it in my opinion. They let that first game against the Flyers get away from them and Carolina is always tough on home ice .

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

Well the Pasta benching is interesting. Have to see how that works out.

This is more like what we expected out of this team though. Low scores, good goaltending, offensively hampered but good effort and some physicality. Can't really complain although I think Seattle was not at their best. A little gassed from their Ottawa road trip game I think.

We made Jack happy.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

As @Ladyfan and some others have been saying for some time, sort out the defense and the rest will follow. Still work in progress, but it's definitely looked better the last couple of games. The goalies have stepped up to the plate too, but the coverage in front of them has improved, and that makes their job easier.

Nothing to get too excited about yet - both shutouts have come against struggling teams with their own problems. But it's a start. Seeing a bit more aggro and a few guys like Coyle start to get their heads and legs in the game is also pleasing. The schedule ahead isn't too bad, so a good chance here to keep building and put the team right back in the mix. Big visit to Toronto coming up. Let's keep our foot on the gas and on the Leafs.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

It's a big week to see who we really are. Toronto and Ottawa coming up. The direct competition.

After that talk of "what has winning in October gotten us" I find myself wondering if those early losses to Florida (that were supposed to be statement games) didn't psychologically damage this team temporarily into a what does it matter we can't get out of the division anyway so why try kind of mindset. Hopefully they are out of it now if that was it.

 

[Alan Ryan]

Yeah, I'm a fan of all 3 changes/systems. I think early on they maybe wanted to try to be more aggressive. The box+1 is a bit passive, giving up the outside whereas man to man and hybrid systems are more high pressure.

I think they wanted to try being more aggressive because FLA spends whole minutes in our zone wheeling around the outside, but in reality it just led to guys being out of position and giving up all the dangerous areas. I think the players quickly soured on that approach and got frustrated and that's why we saw them looking so confused and lifeless.

Now they're back to what they've been doing for the last 15 years and they get it. They're excited to execute it, and we're seeing that energy and life come back. I think they've decided to go with more of a volume shot approach too, shots and net front traffic, and they're excited to do that as well.

100% speculation on my part, but that's my impression.

Lots of shots just make sense to me. So many goals are scored on tips, off skates, bodies, etc. Get players in front of the net and let it rip.

 

[caz16]

Undefeated in November and zero goals scored against them, leave October behind. I loved Charlie Coyle showing the skills that we know he has. Lots of improvements over the last two games, a great way to get confidence back and practice the power play - which had no icings or offside calls yesterday, that is a huge improvement. I hope Pasta is okay, may have been a combination of him hurting and the coach thinking he needed that break anyway, they were winning by two goals.

It will be interesting to see how the game goes tomorrow. Toronto is struggling too, would love the boo birds to be out tomorrow night.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Glad Frederic dummied Larsson for that hit on Poitras

I sort of was. Glad in the general sense that I like to see Freddy sticking up for a teammate because the Bruins need more of that, still miffed about the modern trend where guys have to 'answer' for clean hits. Nothing against Poitras, but he gets caught there with his head down (again), lack of awareness, tagged by Larsson who delivers a completely clean, open ice hit. Then he has to fight for his trouble.

This happens often to Jacob Trouba. Now sometimes he does cross the line (his two-handed hack at Frederic last season being a case in point) but a lot of his hits are hard but completely legal. Not infrequently he has to drop the gloves afterwards. It's absurd.

I'm loathe to recommend even more penalties being handed out, but the instigator exists for a reason and it should arguably be applied more often in these sorts of situations. Larsson making a hockey play then having to cop 5 in the box to the detriment of his team for a fight he neither wanted nor deserved is dumb.

 

[Bradely]

I sort of was. Glad in the general sense that I like to see Freddy sticking up for a teammate because the Bruins need more of that, still miffed about the modern trend where guys have to 'answer' for clean hits. Nothing against Poitras, but he gets caught there with his head down (again), lack of awareness (again), tagged by Larsson who delivers a completely clean, open ice hit. Then he has to fight for his trouble.

This happens often to Jacob Trouba. Now sometimes he does cross the line (his two-handed hack at Frederic last season being a case in point) but a lot of his hits are hard but completely legal. Not infrequently he has to drop the gloves afterwards. It's absurd.

I'm loathe to recommend even more penalties being handed out, but the instigator exists for a reason and it should arguably be applied more often in these sorts of situations. Larsson making a hockey play then having to cop 5 in the box to the detriment of his team for a fight he neither wanted nor deserved is dumb.

If 11 needs to fight each time the kid gets pommeled, he will fight more than ever. Kid gets rock so often.

There is a difference IMO between Larsson and Trouba. The second one (Trouba) hit in a predatory manner.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I sort of was. Glad in the general sense that I like to see Freddy sticking up for a teammate because the Bruins need more of that, still miffed about the modern trend where guys have to 'answer' for clean hits. Nothing against Poitras, but he gets caught there with his head down (again), lack of awareness, tagged by Larsson who delivers a completely clean, open ice hit. Then he has to fight for his trouble.

This happens often to Jacob Trouba. Now sometimes he does cross the line (his two-handed hack at Frederic last season being a case in point) but a lot of his hits are hard but completely legal. Not infrequently he has to drop the gloves afterwards. It's absurd.

I'm loathe to recommend even more penalties being handed out, but the instigator exists for a reason and it should arguably be applied more often in these sorts of situations. Larsson making a hockey play then having to cop 5 in the box to the detriment of his team for a fight he neither wanted nor deserved is dumb.

Not sure I would call that a completely clean hit. He took advantage of a guy that was fending off another player.

More of a cheap shot and he had to answer for it. He could have just as easily stepped in his lane rather than try to kill a guy a foot smaller.

And trust me I love tough hockey

 

[TP70BruinsCup]

Good to see the boys win two in a row and both shutouts. A win is a win is a win. In a league that always blabs on about parity, doesn’t matter who you beat as long as you beat them. You make the playoffs by two points and you’re glad you won a game in November

Now onto TO who just continue to struggle. Hope Pasta is 100% and Brad has another big game in Hogtown

 

[Dicky113]

Im going with he tweaked something and keeping him out was just precautionary

No chance. There’s no way a coach is vague about the reason unless it was play related, otherwise he’s throwing him under the bus from something he can’t control. He didn’t like the turnover, is tired of his lazy play, is fighting to keep his job and had nothing to lose to bench the highest profile player on the team to send a message.

 

[Orr Fourever]

C-Mac with the save of the game.
Thank Christ for that big caboose...Hahahahahaha

 

[goldenblack]

Brazeau on pace for 29 goals...and now in the top 6 and second PP unit.

 

[nORRis8]

I did not take note of the "coaches decision" statement. Now I wonder.

His decision making is quite horrible. Yesterday was no exception.
He grabs the puck quickly enters Seattles zone, crowd gets excited, he hits the brakes about 10' in, two more Bruins skate into the zone, he sees them.....but rather make a play (start skating, shoot in around the boards, dish it off) he chooses to shoot the puck, directly at the goalie , no screen with sort of a half slapshot.
Easy stop.
Whistle.
????????????????

There's more creativity in a beer league.
Perhaps he was benched.

 

[Number8]

If 11 needs to fight each time the kid gets pommeled, he will fight more than ever. Kid gets rock so often.

There is a difference IMO between Larsson and Trouba. The second one (Trouba) hit in a predatory manner.

Agreed. BUT, right now this team needs glue. And if standing up and beating on a guy like Larsson helps solidify that glue, then I'm all for it.

I don't like the trend in the League that says everytime you throw a big hit you have to fight. It's bullshit. BUT, if that's the way it goes, then I see no reason for the Bruins to stand on principle. Show the smaller rookie you have his back (plus, according to yesterday's broadcast they are definitely working with Poitras on this issue) and pound away. Let some other team be the poster boys for change.

 

[goldenblack]

Freddy, Geekie, etc have to look over at Brazeau and take a long hard look. Dude had the hardest path of any of them to his minutes.

His next contract is gonna be the money they let slip. They better start playing like it.

 

[Number8]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853247023723520126

Echoing @Gordoff . Does anyone know what this is referring to?

"Kudos to KPD for contextualizing with the 63 ear full." -- I assume he means the incident on the bench between Montgomery and Marchand, but even so not sure what this means.

f***ing Twitter world -- "I've only got a handful of characters to convey my thoughts so you figure out what I mean."

 

[Ladyfan]

I doubt it, The guys been playing pond hockey for a long time.Tweaked his ego maybe

yeah...because Pasta is known for his big ego (NOT).

Boston Bruins forward David Pastrnak found himself in an unusual position during Sunday’s 2-0 win over the Seattle Kraken—benched in the third period.

Pastrnak, who notched seven shots in just over 14 minutes of ice time, seemingly kept his energy high from the bench, showing no signs of frustration.

The Bruins players, strongly supported and kept above water by Pastrnak’s 11 points so far this season, appreciated his attitude as a positive example for the team following the victory and his in-game scratching.

Coyle shared how the star forward reacted to the benching when addressing media members after the game on Sunday and touched on the situation.

“Pasta wasn’t silent, though,” Coyle told reporters. “He was bringing energy. He was talking; he was into it.

"That’s a sign of a good teammate right there. That’s why he wears a letter; that’s why he’s one of our captains, our leaders.”

 

[Hookslide]

I have heavy doubts about the coaching and the roster, but this is a good win.

The back to back shutouts and some added toughness is positive.

Honest post, and realistic.