G Zach Fucale (2013, 36th, MTL)

Not worried about Zach at all- yes, he has been a little off from his usual solid play lately but this time last year he was at about an .890 and ended the year at .909 so after November last year he was going at about at least a .920 clip to have ended up there.

Posters who hate Zach, or have an irrational bias against him have to look at small windows to try and prove their assssment of his play. Take for instance Game 4 against Rouyn-Noranda in last year's playoffs where the Mooseheads won 9-6 to close out the series- 6.00 GAA and a SVP of .833. Anybody who just looking at the stats would say the Mooseheads won because they scored 9 goals to make up for Zach's poor play and say that whoever gave Zach 2nd star in that game was on something. But these people don't account for Zach keeping the Mooseheads in the game in the first when RN had 18 shots, most of them dangerous.

There are goalies in the Q who have much better stats than Zach- take Marcoux for example. But since BLB plays a stricter defensive style than the Mooseheads he doesn't get the dangerous shots that Zach faces.

Zach also makes the big save when it is required- the biggest one that I remember is the 2 on 1 against Portland with a 4-2 lead in the Mem Cup final, he makes a huge save and Drouin sends Mackinnon off and Konrad gets the rebound to make it 5-2.

Lastly, I would rather go by the word of hockey people like Cam Russell and Dominic Ducharme in their assessment of Fucale. They had him right up there with Nate and Jo as far as his importance in the Moosehead's championship season.
 
I don't think draft position makes much difference.

PHP:
Anaheim
Jonas Hiller - Free Agent Swiss League
Viktor Fasth - Free Agent Swedish Elite League
Frederik Anderson - 3rd round 87th overall 2012 ANA

Calgary 
Joey MacDonald - Free Agent CHL ?
Karri Ramo - 6th round 191 overall 2004 TB
Reto Berra - 4th round 106th overall 2006 STL

Edmonton 
Devan Dubnyk - 1st round 14th overall 2004 EDM
Jason Labarbra - 3rd round 66th overall 1998 NYR
Richard Bachman - 4th round 120th overall 2006 Dallas

Los Angeles
Jonathan Quick - 3rd round 72nd overall 2005 LA
Ben Scrivens - NCAA Free Agent

Phoenix 
Mike Smith - 5th round 161 overall 2001 DAL
Thomas Greiss - 3rd round 94th overall 2004 SJS

San Jose
Antti Niemi - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Alex Stalock - 4th round 112th overall 2005 SJS

Vanocuver
Robert Luongo - 1st round 4th overall 1997 FLA
Eddie Lack - Free Agent Swedish Elite League

Chciago 
Cory Crawford - 2nd round 52nd overall 2003 CHI 
Nikolai Khabibulin - 9th round 204th overall 1992 WIN

Colorado
Semyon Varlamov - 1st round 23 overall 2006 WSH
Jean-sebastien Giguere - 1st round 13th overall 1995 HFD

Dallas
Kari Lehtonen - 1st round 2nd overall 2002 ATL
Dan Ellis - 2nd round 60th overall 2000 DAL

Minnesota
Niklas Backstrom - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Josh Harding - 2nd round 38th overall 2002 MIN

Nashville
Pekka Rinne - 8th round 258th overall 2004 NSH
Carter Hutton - NCAA Free Agent

St.Louis
Brian Elliott - 9th round 291st overall 2003 OTT
Jaroslav Halak - 9th round 271st overall 2003 MTL

Winnipeg
Al Montoya - 1st round 6th overall 2004 NYR
Ondrej Pavelec - 2nd round 41st overall 2005 ATL

Carolina
Cam Ward - 1st round 25th overall 2002 CAR
Anton Khudobin - 7th round 206th overall 2004 MIN

Columbus
Sergei Bobrovsky - Free Agent KHL
Curtis Mcelhinney - 6th round 176th overall 2002 CGY

New Jersey
Martin Brodeur - 1st round 20th overall 1990 NJ
Cory Schneider - 1st round 26th overall 2004 VAN

New York Islanders
Evgeni Nabokov - 9th round 219th overall 1994 SJS
Kevin Poulin - 5th round 126th overall 2008 NYI

New York Rangers
Henrik Lundqvist  - 7th round 205th overall 2000 NYR
Cam Talbot - NCAA Free Agent

Philadelphia 
Ray Emery - 4th round 99th overall 2001 OTT
Steve Mason - 3rd round 69th overall 2006 CBJ

Pittsburgh
Marc-Andre Fleury - 1st round 1st overall 2003 PIT
Thomas Vokoun - 9th round 226th overall 1994 MTL

Washington
Braden Holtby - 4th round 93rd overall 2008 WSH
Michal Neuvirth - 2nd round 34th overall 2006 WSH

Boston
Tukka Rask - 1st round 21st overall 2005 TOR
Chad Johnson - 5th round 125th overall 2006 PIT

Buffalo
Ryan Miller - 5th round 138th overall 1999 BUF
Jhonas Enroth - 2nd round 46th overall 2006 BUF

Detroit 
Jonas Gustavsson - Free Agent Swedish Elite League 
Jimmy Howard - 2nd round 64th overall 2003 DET
Peter Mrazek - 5th round 141st overall 2010 DET

Florida 
Jacon Markstrom - 2nd round 31st overall 2008 FLA
Tim Thomas - 9th round 217th overall 1994 QUE

Montreal
Carey Price - 1st round 5th overall 2005 MTL
Peter Budaj - 2nd round 63rd overall 2001 COL

Ottawa
Craig Anderson - 3rd round 73rd overall 2001 CHI
Robin Lehner - 2nd round 46th overall 2009 OTT

Tampa Bay
Ben Bishop - NCAA Free Agent
Anders Lindback - 7th round 207th overall 2008 NSH

Toronto 
Jonathan Bernier - 1st round 11th overall 2006 LA
James Reimer - 4th round 99th overall 2006 TOR
 
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I don't think draft position makes much difference.

PHP:
Anaheim
Jonas Hiller - Free Agent Swiss League
Viktor Fasth - Free Agent Swedish Elite League
Frederik Anderson - 3rd round 87th overall 2012 ANA

Calgary 
Joey MacDonald - Free Agent CHL ?
Karri Ramo - 6th round 191 overall 2004 TB
Reto Berra - 4th round 106th overall 2006 STL

Edmonton 
Devan Dubnyk - 1st round 14th overall 2004 EDM
Jason Labarbra - 3rd round 66th overall 1998 NYR
Richard Bachman - 4th round 120th overall 2006 Dallas

Los Angeles
Jonathan Quick - 3rd round 72nd overall 2005 LA
Ben Scrivens - NCAA Free Agent

Phoenix 
Mike Smith - 5th round 161 overall 2001 DAL
Thomas Greiss - 3rd round 94th overall 2004 SJS

San Jose
Antti Niemi - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Alex Stalock - 4th round 112th overall 2005 SJS

Vanocuver
Robert Luongo - 1st round 4th overall 1997 FLA
Eddie Lack - Free Agent Swedish Elite League

Chciago 
Cory Crawford - 2nd round 52nd overall 2003 CHI 
Nikolai Khabibulin - 9th round 204th overall 1992 WIN

Colorado
Semyon Varlamov - 1st round 23 overall 2006 WSH
Jean-sebastien Giguere - 1st round 13th overall 1995 HFD

Dallas
Kari Lehtonen - 1st round 2nd overall 2002 ATL
Dan Ellis - 2nd round 60th overall 2000 DAL

Minnesota
Niklas Backstrom - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Josh Harding - 2nd round 38th overall 2002 MIN

Nashville
Pekka Rinne - 8th round 258th overall 2004 NSH
Carter Hutton - NCAA Free Agent

St.Louis
Brian Elliott - 9th round 291st overall 2003 OTT
Jaroslav Halak - 9th round 271st overall 2003 MTL

Winnipeg
Al Montoya - 1st round 6th overall 2004 NYR
Ondrej Pavelec - 2nd round 41st overall 2005 ATL

Carolina
Cam Ward - 1st round 25th overall 2002 CAR
Anton Khudobin - 7th round 206th overall 2004 MIN

Columbus
Sergei Bobrovsky - Free Agent KHL
Curtis Mcelhinney - 6th round 176th overall 2002 CGY

New Jersey
Martin Brodeur - 1st round 20th overall 1990 NJ
Cory Schneider - 1st round 26th overall 2004 VAN

New York Islanders
Evgeni Nabokov - 9th round 219th overall 1994 SJS
Kevin Poulin - 5th round 126th overall 2008 NYI

New York Rangers
Henrik Lundqvist  - 7th round 205th overall 2000 NYR
Cam Talbot - NCAA Free Agent

Philadelphia 
Ray Emery - 4th round 99th overall 2001 OTT
Steve Mason - 3rd round 69th overall 2006 CBJ

Pittsburgh
Marc-Andre Fleury - 1st round 1st overall 2003 PIT
Thomas Vokoun - 9th round 226th overall 1994 MTL

Washington
Braden Holtby - 4th round 93rd overall 2008 WSH
Michal Neuvirth - 2nd round 34th overall 2006 WSH

Boston
Tukka Rask - 1st round 21st overall 2005 TOR
Chad Johnson - 5th round 125th overall 2006 PIT

Buffalo
Ryan Miller - 5th round 138th overall 1999 BUF
Jhonas Enroth - 2nd round 46th overall 2006 BUF

Detroit 
Jonas Gustavsson - Free Agent Swedish Elite League 
Jimmy Howard - 2nd round 64th overall 2003 DET
Peter Mrazek - CHL Free Agent 

Florida 
Jacon Markstrom - 2nd round 31st overall 2008 FLA
Tim Thomas - 9th round 217th overall 1994 QUE

Montreal
Carey Price - 1st round 5th overall 2005 MTL
Peter Budaj - 2nd round 63rd overall 2001 COL

Ottawa
Craig Anderson - 3rd round 73rd overall 2001 CHI
Robin Lehner - 2nd round 46th overall 2009 OTT

Tampa Bay
Ben Bishop - NCAA Free Agent
Anders Lindback - 7th round 207th overall 2008 NSH

Toronto 
Jonathan Bernier - 1st round 11th overall 2006 LA
James Reimer - 4th round 99th overall 2006 TOR


LOL and you would be correct

draft position/success rate for goalies may as well be completely random

since 1990:

Goalies1990.jpg
 
I don't think draft position makes much difference.

PHP:
Anaheim
Jonas Hiller - Free Agent Swiss League
Viktor Fasth - Free Agent Swedish Elite League
Frederik Anderson - 3rd round 87th overall 2012 ANA

Calgary 
Joey MacDonald - Free Agent CHL ?
Karri Ramo - 6th round 191 overall 2004 TB
Reto Berra - 4th round 106th overall 2006 STL

Edmonton 
Devan Dubnyk - 1st round 14th overall 2004 EDM
Jason Labarbra - 3rd round 66th overall 1998 NYR
Richard Bachman - 4th round 120th overall 2006 Dallas

Los Angeles
Jonathan Quick - 3rd round 72nd overall 2005 LA
Ben Scrivens - NCAA Free Agent

Phoenix 
Mike Smith - 5th round 161 overall 2001 DAL
Thomas Greiss - 3rd round 94th overall 2004 SJS

San Jose
Antti Niemi - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Alex Stalock - 4th round 112th overall 2005 SJS

Vanocuver
Robert Luongo - 1st round 4th overall 1997 FLA
Eddie Lack - Free Agent Swedish Elite League

Chciago 
Cory Crawford - 2nd round 52nd overall 2003 CHI 
Nikolai Khabibulin - 9th round 204th overall 1992 WIN

Colorado
Semyon Varlamov - 1st round 23 overall 2006 WSH
Jean-sebastien Giguere - 1st round 13th overall 1995 HFD

Dallas
Kari Lehtonen - 1st round 2nd overall 2002 ATL
Dan Ellis - 2nd round 60th overall 2000 DAL

Minnesota
Niklas Backstrom - Free Agent Finnish Elite League
Josh Harding - 2nd round 38th overall 2002 MIN

Nashville
Pekka Rinne - 8th round 258th overall 2004 NSH
Carter Hutton - NCAA Free Agent

St.Louis
Brian Elliott - 9th round 291st overall 2003 OTT
Jaroslav Halak - 9th round 271st overall 2003 MTL

Winnipeg
Al Montoya - 1st round 6th overall 2004 NYR
Ondrej Pavelec - 2nd round 41st overall 2005 ATL

Carolina
Cam Ward - 1st round 25th overall 2002 CAR
Anton Khudobin - 7th round 206th overall 2004 MIN

Columbus
Sergei Bobrovsky - Free Agent KHL
Curtis Mcelhinney - 6th round 176th overall 2002 CGY

New Jersey
Martin Brodeur - 1st round 20th overall 1990 NJ
Cory Schneider - 1st round 26th overall 2004 VAN

New York Islanders
Evgeni Nabokov - 9th round 219th overall 1994 SJS
Kevin Poulin - 5th round 126th overall 2008 NYI

New York Rangers
Henrik Lundqvist  - 7th round 205th overall 2000 NYR
Cam Talbot - NCAA Free Agent

Philadelphia 
Ray Emery - 4th round 99th overall 2001 OTT
Steve Mason - 3rd round 69th overall 2006 CBJ

Pittsburgh
Marc-Andre Fleury - 1st round 1st overall 2003 PIT
Thomas Vokoun - 9th round 226th overall 1994 MTL

Washington
Braden Holtby - 4th round 93rd overall 2008 WSH
Michal Neuvirth - 2nd round 34th overall 2006 WSH

Boston
Tukka Rask - 1st round 21st overall 2005 TOR
Chad Johnson - 5th round 125th overall 2006 PIT

Buffalo
Ryan Miller - 5th round 138th overall 1999 BUF
Jhonas Enroth - 2nd round 46th overall 2006 BUF

Detroit 
Jonas Gustavsson - Free Agent Swedish Elite League 
Jimmy Howard - 2nd round 64th overall 2003 DET
Peter Mrazek - CHL Free Agent 

Florida 
Jacon Markstrom - 2nd round 31st overall 2008 FLA
Tim Thomas - 9th round 217th overall 1994 QUE

Montreal
Carey Price - 1st round 5th overall 2005 MTL
Peter Budaj - 2nd round 63rd overall 2001 COL

Ottawa
Craig Anderson - 3rd round 73rd overall 2001 CHI
Robin Lehner - 2nd round 46th overall 2009 OTT

Tampa Bay
Ben Bishop - NCAA Free Agent
Anders Lindback - 7th round 207th overall 2008 NSH

Toronto 
Jonathan Bernier - 1st round 11th overall 2006 LA
James Reimer - 4th round 99th overall 2006 TOR

Just so you know, Mrazek was drafted in the 5th round (141st) in 2010.
 
Fucale with the shutout against Moncton tonight. Great bounce back game after being pulled in that 15-5 circus.

Just thought it would be nice if someone actually said something positive about Fucale in this thread.
 
He is 18, already proven winner. Stephen Waite must be drooling at the prospect of working with him. Habs were lucky that he was there at 36
 
He is 18, already proven winner. Stephen Waite must be drooling at the prospect of working with him. Habs were lucky that he was there at 36

watched parts of the game last night and i was very impressed with fucale, i wanted the leafs to draft him but we got bernier so... but i think he will be real good, hopefully he gets a chance though cause it will be tough to beat out Carey Price :P
 
So did fucale stab your grandma or what?

Dude, the kid is not playing as expected. Look at the 2nd round drafted goalies from 2013 draft. I've also included the goalie in their respective leagues with the highest save percentage to try to account for scoring differences in the leagues.

[table="head;width=2000"]Name|League|GP|Min|SH|SVS|GA|SO|GAA|SAV%|SH/GP|2013 Draft Rank
Zachary Fucale|QMJHL|19|1109|462|410|52|1|2.81|0.887|24.3|36
Philippe Desrosiers|QMJHL|16|885|408|364|44|0|2.98|0.892|25.5|54
Sébastien Auger|QMJHL|18|1062|669|617|52|0|2.94|0.922|37.2|N/A
Tristan Jarry|WHL|19|1052|450|414|36|3|2.05|0.920|23.7|44
Eric Comrie|WHL|20|1120|625|581|44|1|2.36|0.930|31.3|59
Coleman Vollrath|WHL|7|374|220|206|14|0|2.25|0.936|31.4|N/A
[/table]

He's not hanging in there very well.
 
I thought Jarry was the best G prospect before the draft and Fucale hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise. It's a joke that he was voted the 4th best G prospect here. He's the Fleury of the QMJHL, a mediocre goalie that people think is good because he gets wins on a stacked team.
 
I thought Jarry was the best G prospect before the draft and Fucale hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise. It's a joke that he was voted the 4th best G prospect here. He's the Fleury of the QMJHL, a mediocre goalie that people think is good because he gets wins on a stacked team.

In fairness Fleury was the complete opposite in junior. Stood on his head nightly getting shelled with shots and lost more often than not on a bad team :laugh:
 
In fairness Fleury was the complete opposite in junior. Stood on his head nightly getting shelled with shots and lost more often than not on a bad team :laugh:

I meant Fleury now. Fleury in the Q was actually super good, especially because his team was ass. Fucale in the Q is Fleury now in the NHL.
 
5 goals against on 22 shots tonight against the team sitting in 2nd last right now. Just sayin'

Any comment on his shutout the previous night ...? Because "Halifax fans are concerned/worried about goaltending this year" lol. :laugh:

He's in a minor slump, jump all over him.
 
No? Why do you ask guy with 2 habs prospects in his name? Is it because I'm not praising a guy like mad during a bad start to the season? Or did his last shutout cover up his consistency issue this year?

I've always thought he was a little overrated because of the powerhouse team he played on last year, but he's still a very good goalie prospect. One game does not change that. I haven't followed him a whole lot this year though.
 
I meant Fleury now. Fleury in the Q was actually super good, especially because his team was ass. Fucale in the Q is Fleury now in the NHL.

You really come up with some ridiculous ideas. :laugh: You think that Junior goalie stats are equivalent to NHL goalie stats? Fucale is one of the better goalies in the Q this year, even when he hasn't played particularly well by his standards. That said, I don't expect a whole lot of actually useful insight from you anymore.
 
5 goals against on 22 shots tonight against the team sitting in 2nd last right now. Just sayin'

In fairness, the moose heads were up 6-1 so maybe they started to think all offense and no d. Not sure as I have no idea, but you get the point. They always leave the goalies out on an island as they are so good offensively. It doesn't matter as Zac has years before he hits the NHL anyways.

He did get the win btw
 
I've always thought he was a little overrated because of the powerhouse team he played on last year, but he's still a very good goalie prospect. One game does not change that. I haven't followed him a whole lot this year though.

It's not one game :laugh:

It's just funny because I said he was having a bad start and a bunch of Habs/Moose fans jumped down my throat, then bragged about 1 good game (shutout) which was immediately followed by 5 goals against on 22 shots, which has been the trend this season. String of rough games, 1-2 good games, then string of rough games. No consistency without the powerhouse.

Any comment on his shutout the previous night ...? Because "Halifax fans are concerned/worried about goaltending this year" lol. :laugh:

He's in a minor slump, jump all over him.

His shutout in the previous game really helped him out tonight eh?

My favorite part is that I've said I still like Fucale as a goalie prospect :laugh:
All I've said is
A) He's off to a bad start to the season (now 1/3 through the season)
B) He was highly overrated last year (that doesn't mean he wasn't a good goalie prospect, people just put him on a pedestal he didn't deserve)
and C) His rough start to this season was a bit predictable

Some probably think I'm out to get Fucale, ignoring that I've said a dozen times that I'm still a fan of Fucales. I just keep poking because I find it hilarious when fans can't admit their player is off to a rough start to a season when he's off to a rough start the season and there's really no argument to be had
 
It's not one game :laugh:

It's just funny because I said he was having a bad start and a bunch of Habs/Moose fans jumped down my throat, then bragged about 1 good game (shutout) which was immediately followed by 5 goals against on 22 shots, which has been the trend this season. String of rough games, 1-2 good games, then string of rough games. No consistency without the powerhouse.

OK, if you follow him that much, could you give a little deeper of an analysis? Not trying to be rude, just trying to gather some insight, as I haven't had the time to follow him as much as I'd like.
 

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