6th player in the 2012 draft in games played starting at age 20. Forsberg played fewer games starting before him. Girgensons, Teravainen are also behind. NHL players very rarely play a full regular season.
Celebrini and Smith were inevitable. Dickinson an obvious one. Like Musty and Chernyshov. But yes San Jose has drafted well since 2022. I really liked the 11 vs 27 & 34 exchange when San Jose's prospect bank was empty.
The LV pick is protected iirc…. It will likely be a mid 20 something pick. Did SJ have another Kipper/Nabokov who were not high draft picks developing somewhere that are close to being nhl goalies?
I may have misunderstood but I believe that San Jose will have the choice between its original pick or the Vegas pick, if Vegas top 10. That's how they translated it on Rds.
You have badly misunderstood this situation. The only way Nashville gets SJ's pick is if the Vegas pick ends up better (ie Vegas pick wins the lottery and the SJ pick doesn't).
Hertl is injury-prone which becomes more problematic with age. Love the player, I’ve actually played bocci ball with him (great guy), but when you have had the degree of knee problems he has had it becomes a risk later in his contract. He is somewhat unique in that speed isn’t a big component of his game (similar to Joe Thornton), but that doesn’t matter if he can’t play.
If Top 10, SJS will have the choice to send their own 1st round pick or Vegas'
I have just shown you that Hertl is one of those who has played the most. Stop insisting. It's factual. How can you be injury prone while being in 6th rank in games played in your draft class ?
Let me put this plainly: the only way Nashville gets a, in your words, "probably top-10 or even top-5 pick" is if Vegas is one of the worst teams in the league. That's extremely, extremely unlikely.
1. Ok, poorly translated by Rds because poorly explain by PuckPedia
Stop being a pedant and look at the frequency with which he has missed ~30 games/season due to knee injuries (2016/2017 and 2023/2024). It is pretty obvious that he has a greater than average risk of slowing down prematurely later in his career due to previous injury than most.
He's played 55 or more games in 6/11 seasons. He's had multiple knee surgeries including one last year that took months to heal. He's high on that list of games because most of the players from that draft flamed out long ago.
Why would it be a top 10 or even 5 pick? In order for that to be the case Vegas would have to finish there.
This would be a more fruitful discussion if you understood the past and the future are not the same thing.
After the trade Grier said he understands he has to earn his spot on the big club, but he also immediately signed an extension for 2x2. He wanted a path to being the starter and getting some NHL games. He gets that, but I don't think he's going to win the job out of camp.
Askarov has to fix his positioning. That has to be done before he can start thinking about playing NHL games. He's obviously a huge talent and he's still young but I've seen no learning curve whatsoever since the draft. Since he asked for a trade despite not making progress at all I'm starting to wonder if he's delusional and hasn't even realized that he's not trending nicely and likely won't until he starts to work on his positioning.
