G Yaroslav Askarov (2020, 11th, NSH; traded to SJS) - PART 2

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Given the NHL team's struggles, is it best for him to stay with the Baracuda and develop chemistry with potential future teammates like Mukhamadullin, Bystedt and Halttunen or would he help solve the Sharks' problems?

And if he is promoted, which former Devil is demoted/released?
There is no need to rush him in the NHL this season. As mentioned, Sharks' defence is ass and Askarov is no savior to the team. I'm sure he'll get his starts here and there in the NHL and is the first call up if one of Blackwood or Vanecek get injured.
 

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Given the NHL team's struggles, is it best for him to stay with the Baracuda and develop chemistry with potential future teammates like Mukhamadullin, Bystedt and Halttunen or would he help solve the Sharks' problems?

And if he is promoted, which former Devil is demoted/released?
Blackwood has been worse so far, but it's only been two games.

On one hand, I don't want to expose Askarov to the Sharks' defense. On the other... if he keeps playing like this with the Cuda, it's hard to justifying not promoting him. He's been so good.
 

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Vanecek has looked very good. If he returns to form, I wonder how the plan changes for Askarov?
I am hoping for vanecek to the AVS so askarov can get called up. Or Blackwood to AVS.

In either case.. he should be a 1b at this point.
 
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Still annoyed the oilers didn't make a play for him. Guys gonna be a pain in the ass for the Pacific division for a long time
 

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damn it's pretty badass that Askarov responded to the Saros contract extension by demanding a trade and then debuting in the A with two straight shutouts.

Gotta wonder if Predators management is regretting that one right now sitting 0-5
 

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Still annoyed the oilers didn't make a play for him. Guys gonna be a pain in the ass for the Pacific division for a long time


Oilers probobly did but did not have the assets the Preds wanted. This trade happened shortly after we lost Broberg and Halloway to the Blues. I think if the Oilers knew ahead of time what was coming, they would have traded both for him--but hindsight is a lovely thing. And of course the Oiler management is in love with Skinner at the NHL level and Oliver in the AHL. Why? You have me at a loss for words there

Wallstadt is going to be a pain in the ass as well
 
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damn it's pretty badass that Askarov responded to the Saros contract extension by demanding a trade and then debuting in the A with two straight shutouts.

Gotta wonder if Predators management is regretting that one right now sitting 0-5
It's not like we didn't know his potential, him and his agent didn't want to wait around to be Saros' back up and outplay him. It's funny he could have played in game one over wedegwood had he been patient.

2 1sts for a player requesting a trade isn't horrible.
 

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It's not like we didn't know his potential, him and his agent didn't want to wait around to be Saros' back up and outplay him. It's funny he could have played in game one over wedegwood had he been patient.

2 1sts for a player requesting a trade isn't horrible.

Sure it’s not an Erat for Forsberg situation or something but Trotz bet heavily that the Predators time is now and that Askarov, representing the future, didn’t really have a place in it.
 
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Sure it’s not an Erat for Forsberg situation or something but Trotz bet heavily that the Predators time is now and that Askarov, representing the future, didn’t really have a place in it.
There was a plan for Askarov, we brought back Mitch Korn, the age gap between Askarov and Saros was large enough that Askarov could come in as a back up and then 1a/1b, etc, it sucks that he couldn't see or didn't want to be a part of those plans.

Although Trotz isn't without fault, apparently he didn't like his showy play and celebrations, which is what makes him such a great player. Go figure.
 

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There was a plan for Askarov, we brought back Mitch Korn, the age gap between Askarov and Saros was large enough that Askarov could come in as a back up and then 1a/1b, etc, it sucks that he couldn't see or didn't want to be a part of those plans.

Although Trotz isn't without fault, apparently he didn't like his showy play and celebrations, which is what makes him such a great player. Go figure.
I think Saros being under contract for the next 9 years means Askarov and his representation sees things fine.

Both teams got what they wanted, there shouldn’t be any hard feelings.
 

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I think Saros being under contract for the next 9 years means Askarov and his representation sees things fine.

Both teams got what they wanted, there shouldn’t be any hard feelings.
Yeah, this "we had a plan for Askarov" is strictly bullshit from the Preds organization. Unless the plan was to make Juuse Saros a $9M backup in a year or two, there was no plan.
 

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Yeah, this "we had a plan for Askarov" is strictly bullshit from the Preds organization. Unless the plan was to make Juuse Saros a $9M backup in a year or two, there was no plan.

It's not unreasonable to expect Askarov to come to camp and beat out Wedgewood or to do time as an AHL starter and an NHL back up.

Nor is it out of the realm of possibility that we could have traded Saros in the future or Askarov when he had played more than 2 nhl games and his value was higher.
 
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It's not unreasonable to expect Askarov to come to camp and beat out Wedgewood or to do time as an AHL starter and an NHL back up.

Nor is it out of the realm of possibility that we could have traded Saros in the future or Askarov when he had played more than 2 nhl games and his value was higher.
There was no path to Askarov becoming a starting NHL goaltender within two years in Nashville. There is no world in which a $9M goaltender loses his starting role unless he's really bad. If he's really bad, then absolutely no one is touching his contract, so Nashville is stuck with him.

You think Askarov should have stuck around just to help build up value so Nashville could get more value in a trade for him? You're insane.
 

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Why is he not in San Jose ?
Because we have two goalies on NHL contracts and we don't need to be pulling out all the stops to win games.

I'm guessing we'll move one of Blackwood or Vanecek and that's when Askarov will start to get games by the middle of season or TDL.
 

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Because we have two goalies on NHL contracts and we don't need to be pulling out all the stops to win games.

I'm guessing we'll move one of Blackwood or Vanecek and that's when Askarov will start to get games by the middle of season or TDL.
It doesn’t make any sense to me, he left Nashville because he wasn’t getting any NHL time just to be in the same situation in SJ..
 

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It doesn’t make any sense to me, he left Nashville because he wasn’t getting any NHL time just to be in the same situation in SJ..
You gotta read the thread, man. This has been covered many times. He wasn't worried about being in the AHL in the short term, he wanted a path to being an NHL starter. He has that now and immediately after the trade said that he would be fine in the AHL.

This season splitting time, next season starts in SJ, signs a huge extension.
 

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Why is he not in San Jose ?
Our team is shit and we don't want to throw him to the wolves when we have two capable NHL goalies. Expectation is that one is moved this year and Askarov takes their place. Let him dominate the AHL without being "too exposed" to the Sharks, but integrate him slowly and be at least backup by next year.
 
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