G Sebastian Cossa (2021, 15th, DET)

[Our Lady Peace]

The worst SHL team would beat every CHL team with double digits.

That's irrelevant and says nothing about the ability of Cossa nor Wallstedt. Goalies from the CHL have turned out better than goalies from SEL, Liiga, etc and vice-versa, so I don't know why that's pertinent to point out.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I don't have an opinion on the matter. It's just a fact that SHL is a much much better league than any of the CHL leagues.

The worst SHL team would beat every CHL team with double digits.

You do realize that the SHL being a pro league does not mean a player developing there will be a better pro right? What a silly assertion. No shit a pro team will beat a CHL team. That has absolutely nothing to do with who is better between Cossa and Walstedt.

 

[Dotter]

So who's better; Cossa or Walstedt?

 

[13to40]

So who's better; Cossa or Walstedt?

Ill let you know in 5 years from now

 

[Bear of Bad News]

The worst SHL team would beat every CHL team with double digits.

Well, golly gosh, it's a wonder how any CHL goaltenders even survive the pros without literally dying, let alone play in the league.

 

[clay]

I don't have an opinion on the matter. It's just a fact that SHL is a much much better league than any of the CHL leagues.

The worst SHL team would beat every CHL team with double digits.

Your logic is deeply flawed. Is Edvinsson is better than Power because SHL is a professional league?

 

[Dotter]

Ill let you know in 5 years from now

I'll hold you to that.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Alright, I'm sure you've seen many SHL games these two past seasons and that you're an expert at evaluating talent.

And you are?

All he’s saying is what Cossa has been doing so far is pretty unheard of.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Well, golly gosh, it's a wonder how any CHL goaltenders even survive the pros without literally dying, let alone play in the league.

They don't. Carey Price is the exception.

Your logic is deeply flawed. Is Edvinsson is better than Power because SHL is a professional league?

No. Power could've played in the NHL this season without embarrassing himself.

And you are?

All he’s saying is what Cossa has been doing so far is pretty unheard of.

That's not all he said. He said that Cossa is a more talented goalie based on numbers from a junior league.

 

[nbwingsfan]

They don't. Carey Price is the exception.

No. Power could've played in the NHL this season without embarrassing himself.

That's not all he said. He said that Cossa is a more talented goalie based on numbers from a junior league.

Please show me he was more talented “based on stats from a junior league”. I’ll wait.

 

[cjeagle]

Your logic is deeply flawed. Is Edvinsson is better than Power because SHL is a professional league?

The Dallas GM Jim Nill certainly thought so. During the preseason, he was quoted as saying that they had Edvinsson ahead of Power in their draft rankings.

Of course we won't know if that would be the case when they both reached the NHL but Edvinsson has certainly impressed in the SHL getting top line minutes with Frolunda and earning 6 points in 11 games for a team that has a hard time getting goals.

Personally I put more weight on players excelling in a top tier pro league with a strong hockey tradition like the SHL than if they were in the juniors or colleges but that doesn't mean there are the occasional players in the latter levels than can translate their game to the NHL just as easily.

 

[Pavels Dog]

It's just a fact that SHL is a much much better league than any of the CHL leagues.

SHL is also tighter checking, more strategic and organized, and lower scoring. Playing against men instead of juniors is added difficulty, but playing behind a pro defense that limits high-danger chances compensates somewhat.

 

[landy92mack29]

He'll look good in red and white before he even gets to Detroit

 

[cjeagle]

No. Power could've played in the NHL this season without embarrassing himself.

You could say the same with Edvinsson who is already dominating a league of pros filled with full grown men and not just your college peers like Powers has been doing and being compared to Tampa Bay all star defenceman like Hedman while doing it.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Your logic is deeply flawed. Is Edvinsson is better than Power because SHL is a professional league?

Edvinsson is better than Power because he is a better and more dynamic player than Power.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Not great footage tbh but I'm sharing it anyways in an overt effort to build Cossa hype.

Leading or tied for the lead in all WHL goaltender stats (and all CHL goaltender stats more broadly, if that interests you, except for Brett Bochu who has 8 wins to Cossa's 7).

1.44 GAA

.948 SV%

7W

2 SO

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Not great footage tbh but I'm sharing it anyways in an overt effort to build Cossa hype.

Leading or tied for the lead in all WHL goaltender stats (and all CHL goaltender stats more broadly, if that interests you, except for Brett Bochu who has 8 wins to Cossa's 7).

1.44 GAA

.948 SV%

7W

2 SO

Nuts-o season so far...

Facing 30 shots a night, yet saving 95% of the pucks....
stupid good.....

BTW. 11 games starting to be something, also 300+ shots faced...
Not anymore small sample size

 

[GoBoltz56]

Nuts-o season so far...

Facing 30 shots a night, yet saving 95% of the pucks....
stupid good.....

BTW. 11 games starting to be something, also 300+ shots faced...
Not anymore small sample size

Pretty sure he hasn't faced 30+ shots much at all this year. But still a great season.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Pretty sure he hasn't faced 30+ shots much at all this year. But still a great season.

Yeah, from the WHL website it's 309 shots over 11 starts, which by my quick maths averages to 28 shots per game. So not way off 30 shots a night, but not quite there to be fair.

 

[Beef Cake]

Pretty sure he hasn't faced 30+ shots much at all this year. But still a great season.

Averaging 28 shots against a game, much less impressive.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Averaging 28 shots against a game, much less impressive.

He had 1 game recently where he had 45ish shots against. All the other games are much lower. So one game skewed the numbers.

 

[OldScool]

Save percentage is probably the most useless goaltending stat in history. One goalie could see 5 breakaways a game, 10 odd man rushes and a ton of power plays and save 20/25 for a .800 save percentage while one goalie saves 25 clear soft shots from the point and has a 1.00 Save percentage.

 

[Cenzhin]

He had 1 game recently where he had 45ish shots against. All the other games are much lower. So one game skewed the numbers.

Do you consider 24 shots much lower, because all but one game He has faced 24 or more shots, with the majority of games being within 2 or 3 shots.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Do you consider 24 shots much lower, because all but one game He has faced 24 or more shots, with the majority of games being within 2 or 3 shots.

This is a weird argument, as I am a Wings fan and he is having a great year. Definitely didn't come here to start a debate. But in statistical terms, 24 is much less than 30+ shots a night.

 

[Cenzhin]

This is a weird argument, as I am a Wings fan and he is having a great year. Definitely didn't come here to start a debate. But in statistical terms, 24 is much less than 30+ shots a night.

Not sure how you took away that I was starting a debate. I wouldn't consider 24 much lower than 30. Most games he is closer to 30 than you make it seem.