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G Dustin Wolf (2019, 214th, CGY)

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Heard people were talking about him so he allowed only 1 goal on 38 shots tonight to earn himself 2nd star honors in the win. After a slow start, his .925 save percentage and 2.26 GAA through 20 games are now 4th in the league out of goalies with atleast 10 starts. None of the goalies above him have started 15+ games, and none are younger than 24. Wolf at 20 games played and the age of 21 is putting forward another special season, and will be trying to challenge for winning his 4th goalie of the year award in his last 4 seasons.
 
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Would love to see him get a few games this season at the nhl level like Dostal is getting. I don’t wish injury on anyone but…you never know.
 
InfinityIggy said:
In reality, he didn't really have a "slow start". The Wranglers D was among the worst I have ever seen for a professional organization. Like shockingly bad. Wolf was the only reason the score didn't get run up an absurd amount most games in the early going.
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100% disagree with that assessment. The Wranglers/Flames system is in full effect here. The Wranglers are stacked on D. This is the AHL. All of them can skate and they have a lot of pro experience. The Flames org as a whole is very stacked with defensively capable dmen. Very underrated system.

Gilbert - 57 nhl games, including a handful this season where he was fine at the nhl level, Best NCAA defensive dman

DeSimone, 4 nhl games this year - really liked him on the right side.

Meloche - 70 nhl games including 50 last year, fine ahl player

Poolman - Best defensive dman in the NCAA pretty recently too

All 4 are really good defensively at the AHL level for sure. Then you have the kids. Who are not as strong defensively but they don't play the kids together. Very few AHL teams have the kind of depth this team has on defense.


Is Wolf playing good? Yes. But you can't say this dcore is shockingly bad with a straight face.
 
scoutclout said:
100% disagree with that assessment. The Wranglers/Flames system is in full effect here. The Wranglers are stacked on D. This is the AHL. All of them can skate and they have a lot of pro experience. The Flames org as a whole is very stacked with defensively capable dmen. Very underrated system.

Gilbert - 57 nhl games, including a handful this season where he was fine at the nhl level, Best NCAA defensive dman

DeSimone, 4 nhl games this year - really liked him on the right side.

Meloche - 70 nhl games including 50 last year, fine ahl player

Poolman - Best defensive dman in the NCAA pretty recently too

All 4 are really good defensively at the AHL level for sure. Then you have the kids. Who are not as strong defensively but they don't play the kids together. Very few AHL teams have the kind of depth this team has on defense.


Is Wolf playing good? Yes. But you can't say this dcore is shockingly bad with a straight face.
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You can make arguments about why the D ought to be good, personnel wise or system wise. The fact of the matter is watching the games they were an atrociously bad group to start the season. So plainly in fact I would have to question the credibility of anyone who argued otherwise. To deny that speaks only to a personal agenda.
 
InfinityIggy said:
You can make arguments about why the D ought to be good, personnel wise or system wise. The fact of the matter is watching the games they were an atrociously bad group to start the season. So plainly in fact I would have to question the credibility of anyone who argued otherwise. To deny that speaks only to a personal agenda.
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This is 100% correct. The Wranglers were awful defensively to begin the season, but they've turned things around since then.
 
InfinityIggy said:
You can make arguments about why the D ought to be good, personnel wise or system wise. The fact of the matter is watching the games they were an atrociously bad group to start the season. So plainly in fact I would have to question the credibility of anyone who argued otherwise. To deny that speaks only to a personal agenda.
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lol please. Bold watching the games more, I've endure the pains of their AHL announcer many times this season.

I think you and I are saying the same thing.

The Defense and system is good if not great.

The same team and system in front of Wolf early on struggled. I even said this in the post people are ripping me for.

"but the team in front of him has been pretty bad"

I don't see how people are arguing me except for the fact that I'm stating truths that go counter to your narratives about your team's favourite prospects.


Some of you have zero understanding of hockey or how things work, very bad sense of the game especially at the position, something I played at a very high level and have spoken about before if you want to read my post history. You can be a good prospect but still have holes in your game. That should be plainly understood. There's a reason he's playing in the AHL and not NHL.
 
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scoutclout said:
Some of you have zero understanding of hockey or how things work, very bad sense of the game especially at the position, something I played at a very high level and have spoken about before if you want to read my post history. You can be a good prospect but still have holes in your game. That should be plainly understood. There's a reason he's playing in the AHL and not NHL.
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Yeah, you. This will age poorly. Cant wait.

He is playing in the AHL because the Flames have 2 NHL caliber goalies and because Wolf is a 21 y/o goalie. What an asinine thing to say.
 
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scoutclout said:
Some of you have zero understanding of hockey or how things work, very bad sense of the game especially at the position, something I played at a very high level and have spoken about before if you want to read my post history. You can be a good prospect but still have holes in your game. That should be plainly understood. There's a reason he's playing in the AHL and not NHL.
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A contender for my favorite post in HF history.
 
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InfinityIggy said:
Yeah, you. This will age poorly. Cant wait.

He is playing in the AHL because the Flames have 2 NHL caliber goalies and because Wolf is a 21 y/o goalie. What an asinine thing to say.
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They have 2 NHL Calibre goalies who are struggling whether its the defense or what you can't deny that. If Wolf was as good as posters in this thread think, he would have been given the nod. Do you think if management in a win now mode had a player that could out perform either goalie and get more wins they'd be like... "nah lets keep him there in the ahl, he's amazing better yet... he won goalie of the year... and he's sooo good lets resign Vladar in season (mid to late October) for 2 more years because Wolf is ready and has no holes". And if you can't see Wolf outperforming either of those players right now... who are struggling, why are you arguing with me?

Yes I forgot... he's 21... not like bonafide nhl goalies like Gibson, Saros, Hart, Knight, Vasi, Fleury, Varlamov, Halak, Korpisalo, Georgiev ever got a shot when they were 21. So asinine. It's not that he's 21, it's that he has holes in his game that need to be further addressed.
 
Feel like Wolf is barely talked about? He's putting up better numbers than last year when he won Goalie of the Year and still barely mentioned anywhere. Wouldn't surprise me if he got a game or two this year but really curious to see if the Flames give him a spot next season.
 
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Calgary’s farm team is playing very well right now. Wolf is on fire and Phillips, Zary, Pelletier and Petersen are all a point per game or better.

Unfortunately there isn’t a ton of room on the big club. Phillips had his cup of coffee. I’m guessing the others will too at some point.
 
scoutclout said:
lol please. Bold watching the games more, I've endure the pains of their AHL announcer many times this season.

I think you and I are saying the same thing.

The Defense and system is good if not great.

The same team and system in front of Wolf early on struggled. I even said this in the post people are ripping me for.

"but the team in front of him has been pretty bad"

I don't see how people are arguing me except for the fact that I'm stating truths that go counter to your narratives about your team's favourite prospects.


Some of you have zero understanding of hockey or how things work, very bad sense of the game especially at the position, something I played at a very high level and have spoken about before if you want to read my post history. You can be a good prospect but still have holes in your game. That should be plainly understood. There's a reason he's playing in the AHL and not NHL.
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What an awful take. I am a season ticket holder for the Wranglers and have been to about half their games. The D corps down there is not good at all defensively. Wolf was seeing 10 bell chances all night long. It's why his goals saved about expected is tops in the league while his save percentage is 4th.

scoutclout said:
They have 2 NHL Calibre goalies who are struggling whether its the defense or what you can't deny that. If Wolf was as good as posters in this thread think, he would have been given the nod. Do you think if management in a win now mode had a player that could out perform either goalie and get more wins they'd be like... "nah lets keep him there in the ahl, he's amazing better yet... he won goalie of the year... and he's sooo good lets resign Vladar in season (mid to late October) for 2 more years because Wolf is ready and has no holes". And if you can't see Wolf outperforming either of those players right now... who are struggling, why are you arguing with me?

Yes I forgot... he's 21... not like bonafide nhl goalies like Gibson, Saros, Hart, Knight, Vasi, Fleury, Varlamov, Halak, Korpisalo, Georgiev ever got a shot when they were 21. So asinine. It's not that he's 21, it's that he has holes in his game that need to be further addressed.
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Another awful take.

Markstrom was 2nd in Vezina last season and Vladar is the 4th best backup in the league statistically. Young goalies take time. Wolf is probably the best goalie on the planet not playing in the NHL right now.
 
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Figured it’s worth bringing up fresh off him winning goalie of the month for December. Dustin Wolf now leads the AHL in wins, shutouts, minutes played, shots faced and saves. Out of goalies who have played atleast 15 games. He ranks first in GAA (2.09) and second in save percentage (.932).

He is well on his way to winning goalie of the year in the AHL again if he keeps his play up, as his stats are actually better than his previous season. If he wins it, that would be the 4th consecutive season he’s won the honor for whatever league he plays in. There’s really no precedent for what he is accomplishing right now, his ceiling is sky high in the NHL.
 
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Yepthatsme said:
Figured it’s worth bringing up fresh off him winning goalie of the month for December. Dustin Wolf now leads the AHL in wins, shutouts, minutes played, shots faced and saves. Out of goalies who have played atleast 15 games. He ranks first in GAA (2.09) and second in save percentage (.932).

He is well on his way to winning goalie of the year in the AHL again if he keeps his play up, as his stats are actually better than his previous season. If he wins it, that would be the 4th consecutive season he’s won the honor for whatever league he plays in. There’s really no precedent for what he is accomplishing right now, his ceiling is sky high in the NHL.
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I agree. Amazing stuff from him.

I do think he has earned at least a game or two in the nhl just so he can see how he does against nhl talent…see if he has to improve on anything still or not.
 
Yepthatsme said:
Figured it’s worth bringing up fresh off him winning goalie of the month for December. Dustin Wolf now leads the AHL in wins, shutouts, minutes played, shots faced and saves. Out of goalies who have played atleast 15 games. He ranks first in GAA (2.09) and second in save percentage (.932).

He is well on his way to winning goalie of the year in the AHL again if he keeps his play up, as his stats are actually better than his previous season. If he wins it, that would be the 4th consecutive season he’s won the honor for whatever league he plays in. There’s really no precedent for what he is accomplishing right now, his ceiling is sky high in the NHL.
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Pretty impressive. Hopefully we can see him in the NHL soon, even for a game or two before the end of this season.
 
He just wins.

His positioning is so amazing. He just always seems in control. He’s square on the shooter but he’s able to explode across the net and still stay upright.

I still fear Flames will mismanage him or trade him because we love vets like no other.
 
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Wolf best goalie on planet not in NHL. I kind of like that line , Double Dion. I might put Devin Levi in that conversation as well regardless, it is too bad we can't get an NHL look at him but Old Fossil in Calgary likes his vets.
 
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