Post-Game Talk: Full 60 minute effort. Leafs win 4-0!

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the lies are i'm hoping M and M have poor season , hell i've defended Marner constantly and said we'd be worse if we traded him

you can come here and spew your fairy tales how hard our division was last year if it makes you feel better but the season before we were barely in a playoff spot before being knocked out in the playoff qualifier and this season only a troll or an over the top homer wouldn't realize we've had a soft sked so far but hey you do you and post how hard our opponents have been so far

Hey if you think M&M are going to continue to be 50pt type players and its just some nerdy stats masturbation to suggest otherwise, that's on you
 
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Hey if you think M&M are going to continue to be 50pt type players and its just some nerdy stats masturbation to suggest otherwise, that's on you
when have i ever said that ?

post all the fairy tales and all the crap stats you like but don't lie about what i've posted
 
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when have i ever said that ?

post all the fairy tales and all the crap stats you like but don't lie about what i've posted

Well you clearly implied that any argument I gave you for their likely improvements this year would be worthless stats nerdery.

So you must think M&M will be 50pt players this year.
 
I completely agree with you but that doesn't mean we should pick one guy out and constantly shit on him (not saying it's you doing this) .

Marner is not a perfect player and i'm not going to defend his last couple of post seasons but i will say breaking up the cap hit of one of the most productive players in the league into pieces is not the way to improve the team . Also if we trade him who'll create for JT , he's way to slow to drive a line so we weaken our team even more .

the most sure way to improve this team is to get JT to waive and try to find a home for him
Nope Still trade mariner His little spoiled entitled child attitude they don’t need it here
 
glad to be at that game last night...was a good one to watch live.

Spezza is a freaking beast...every time he was on the ice I just watched him....he's completely playing at a higher level than the rest of the players.

Matthews looked good ... finally.

If you are ever at a game, watch minnie mouse for a full shift. Watch him when his not directly in the play.

It's something else. At one point, while the play was going, he was staring into the stands...like a little kid playing in the outfield picking grass.

I hope he can get his head FULLY back into the game!
 
This might come as a surprise, but the Leafs are 5th overall in the league over the past 300 games (4+ seasons), 8th in the last 218 games (3+ seasons), 10th in the last 134 games (2+ seasons).

They have been a top 10 team in the standings by points for almost a half decade.

Not too surprised, those 100 & 105 point seasons under Babcock, along with a less that stellar North division certainly supports that.

This season is all Dubas & Keefe against the full league.....I hope they can maintain that pace, but I'm skeptical
 
Dont look now but there is 3 Canadian teams in the leagues top 10 after being hailed the weakest division in the history of the sport!

Edit: Seems like we were on the same page:laugh:

And then you have the Sharks who are 5-1 against North teams :sarcasm:

"Not it" as the one who has to prove Sharks are an amazing team. Good luck. If you can prove this then you're also proving North is the weakest because this Sharks team was pretty crap last year and not in our division.

But if you're going to pull the "new season, new game" card, then have to pull all your stuff off the table as well.

For the record I think Leafs will finish top 5 regardless if North was good or not....but just want to have some fun in the logic being used here i.e All the arguments in favor of North being a good division are weak. It's easy to show you will either have to be a hypocrite or contradict yourself if you use the sample the league has given you so far.
 
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About time. And there were people defending their early play. It’s clear when they’re trying. Keep it up
 
When is the parade??
If it is the Stanley Cup parade you are referring to, it will only come after the Stanley Cup. It it is held in Toronto, the Leafs will have won the Cup, but there are 72 games + getting through 3 playoff rounds before fans would start thinking about a parade. There might be a Christmas parade this year if you just want any parades, but us fans are not thinking about a Cup parade at this point.
 
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And then you have the Sharks who are 5-1 against North teams :sarcasm:

"Not it" as the one who has to prove Sharks are an amazing team. Good luck. If you can prove this then you're also proving North is the weakest because this Sharks team was pretty crap last year and not in our division.

But if you're going to pull the "new season, new game" card, then have to pull all your stuff off the table as well.

For the record I think Leafs will finish top 5 regardless if North was good or not....but just want to have some fun in the logic being used here i.e All the arguments in favor of North being a good division are weak. It's easy to show you will either have to be a hypocrite or contradict yourself if you use the sample the league has given you so far.

The North certainly wasn’t the strongest division, but not the weakest either. The arguments aren’t too somehow prove that the Leafs dominated the best division ever, but rather that this is the NHL, even bad teams are still good. The Leafs record wasn’t some sham because they played in the North, since some of the teams in the North were still pretty good.
 
Don't you do this all the time with JT?
i knock his play , i call his interviews robotic but i don't go on and on about how he's some horrible piece of shit human being or he's the sole reason we haven't won the cup

i do however question endlessly how he always gets a free pass regardless of how he or the team plays , all his team mates get chucked under the bus and there's Johnny with people making excuses for him like there life depends on it . lol
 
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Nope Still trade mariner His little spoiled entitled child attitude they don’t need it here
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While this was a solid game and Leafs big boys came to play, we also have to put the Leafs record to date in perspective that we haven't yet beaten a playoff team.

Of our 5 wins they have all come against bottom 10 teams and wounded opponents in Montreal, Ottawa, Chicago, Detroit and now the AHL version of the Golden Knights.

The good news is that the key players are starting regain confidence and contributing which is what was needed for when we start playing the serious contenders and hope to win.
 
While this was a solid game and Leafs big boys came to play, we also have to put the Leafs record to date in perspective that we haven't yet beaten a playoff team.

Of our 5 wins they have all come against bottom 10 teams and wounded opponents in Montreal, Ottawa, Chicago, Detroit and now the AHL version of the Golden Knights.

The good news is that the key players are starting regain confidence and contributing which is what was needed for when we start playing the serious contenders and hope to win.

They also only played 1 quality playoff team... So kindve hard to beat playoff teams when you dont play playoff teams.
 
They also only played 1 quality playoff team... So kindve hard to beat playoff teams when you dont play playoff teams.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

11 points after 10 games in only 1 game above .500 hockey, and as you mentioned we really haven't played a lot of high level QofC to this point to earn that record.

So we've started this year as a .500 team playing only average or below average competition, where the Canes, and a healthy Pens with Sid and Geno would have been considered top 10 teams, and we lost to the Pens even without them.

The true test is still ahead and hopefully we can use a strong game like this one against Vegas as a turning point to build momentum off of.
 
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

11 points after 10 games in only 1 game above .500 hockey, and as you mentioned we really haven't played a lot of high level QofC to this point to earn that record.

So we've started this year as a .500 team playing only average or below average competition, where the Canes, and a healthy Pens with Sid and Geno would have been considered top 10 teams.

And a healthy Vegas team?

I mean, obviously their record isnt good for the quality of competition, but thats why everyone and their grandmas are criticizing them for their slow start.

What isnt needed is disingenuous remarks about their record vs playoff teams when they literally only played 1, who is still undefeated I may add.
 
And a healthy Vegas team?

I mean, obviously their record isnt good for the quality of competition, but thats why everyone and their grandmas are criticizing them for their slow start.

What isnt needed is disingenuous remarks about their record vs playoff teams when they literally only played 1, who is still undefeated I may add.

I don't think its disingenuous to point out the Leafs are average team based on performance against only other average or below average competition.

These Vegas Knights in this game were missing many of their top players so while beating them soundly was great and badly needed, it wasn't a playoff contending team roster we faced.

That doesn't make them a contender simply because they haven't played very many good teams yet. You can only asses their play based on whom they have played not future games.
 
I don't think its disingenuous to point out the Leafs are average team based on performance against only other average or below average competition.

That doesn't make them a contender simply because they haven't played very many good teams yet. You can only asses their play based on whom they have played not future games.

I agree 100%, you can only assess their play based on whom they played.

Thats why these lines are disingenuous:
"We also have to put the Leafs record to date in perspective that we haven't yet beaten a playoff team. Of our 5 wins they have all come against bottom 10 teams and wounded opponents in Montreal, Ottawa, Chicago, Detroit and now the AHL version of the Golden Knights."

They cant help who theyve played.
 
Vegas was missing about a 1/3 of their regulars and looked like trash but we did give a consistently good effort for 60mins .
To paraphrase ol' Mick "they didn't let them breathe!" It started right off the opening face-off through to the buzzer, if they continue that kind of inspired play they should be able to beat anyone in the league on a consistent basis.
 

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